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[SoulfishHawk]

Goff is also better than geCHOKE

 

[SeaWolv]

Again not saying Geno is the long-term answer but he's not the only problem on this team and he's not the biggest problem on this team.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not THE problem, but a massive problem.

 

[SeaWolv]

Goff is also better than geCHOKE

How about Purdy? Would you rather have him?

 

[Ozzy]

Have you watched Goff play?? He turtles just about every game.

Goff makes way less mistakes than Geno. I've watched a few of his games and at this point he's much better in that regard. All the stats support that as well. Don't get me wrong he still makes some bizarre mistakes for sure but man Geno this year is on another level to me.

 

[SeaWolv]

Not THE problem, but a massive problem.

Agree to disagree I guess. Geno is a problem but I think the OLine is a much bigger issue that needs to be fixed first.

The 2025 draft is thin at QB and the Hawks pick is currently #17, not likely to find the QBotF there and not likely to see JS trade up. If he were going to trade up last year was the year for that. So he either he sits tight until 2026 or he looks at FA. The likelihood that he finds the QBotF in FA is low. Although Darnold happened, so it is possible. Seems more likely that we address areas of need like OLine and some spots on Defense in the off season and then QB later.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Shoot, I'd much rather have Baker Mayfield than geNO

 

[JustTheTip]

How about Purdy? Would you rather have him?

In general? Yes. At what he is going to get paid? No.

 

[SeaWolv]

Shoot, I'd much rather have Baker Mayfield than geNO

Mayfield is doing much better in Tampa than Cleveland. But I bet you weren't thinking that after the 2022 season.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I absolutely wanted them to bring in Baker.

GENO: 3,937 YARDS, 17 TD'S, 15 INTERCEPTIONS

BAKER: 3,920 YARDS, 34 TD'S, 15 INTERCEPTIONS

 

[SeaWolv]

In general? Yes. At what he is going to get paid? No.

No way I take Purdy over Geno. He has 10 picks and 7 fumbles and 17 TDs.

 

[SeaWolv]

I absolutely wanted them to bring in Baker.

GENO: 3,937 YARDS, 17 TD'S, 15 INTERCEPTIONS

BAKER: 3,920 YARDS, 34 TD'S, 15 INTERCEPTIONS

Yes Baker's stats this season are looking very nice and I would take him over Geno based on what I've seen him do over the last 2 seasons. But when he was in Cleveland I was not high on Baker and many others weren't either. His stats were middling.

 

[hgwellz12]

Definitely. If all those things that didn't go Geno's way went Geno's way, and he hadn't made all those other dumb throws that probably left points on the board, and factoring in that those dropped INTs weren't Geno's fault for reasons I'm sure other people will figure out and let us know, and everyone else had played better, and more of the home fans showed up, and the sun wasn't in Geno's eyes, and we had just given the ball to Marshawn, then everyone is calling Geno a bigger hero than Guitar Hero and he's the MVP frontrunner, causing Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson to commit sudoku in shame.

Hypothetically, Geno won that game even harder than Alabama and Ole Miss won the College Football Playoff.

"commit sudoku" is hilarious!

 

[SeaWolv]

One of the stats I find most troubling is the lack of TD passes for Geno this season.

 

[Chukarhawk]

4-1 pass run ratio. They're asking him to do way too much. He's not Tom Brady.

not entirely accurate they were doing lots of throws out of the backfield which count as runs in my book

 

[Rat]

Mayfield was progressing fantastically in Cleveland until he played hurt his third year, which was admirably at the time, but he probably regrets doing now for a franchise that didn't deserve it. I was in favor of throwing a round pick at the Browns, but after the way he looked with the Panthers and Rams, I thought he was done. I didn't want Geno either though.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm happy for the guy. He's clearly grown up and become a leader. They did him dirty in Cleveland, imo.

 

[SeaWolv]

Mayfield was progressing fantastically in Cleveland until he played hurt his third year, which was admirably at the time, but he probably regrets doing now for a franchise that didn't deserve it. I was in favor of throwing a round pick at the Browns, but after the way he looked with the Panthers and Rams, I thought he was done. I didn't want Geno either though.

This doesn't seem consistent with what happened in Carolina or LA. Again there were a lot of questions about Baker prior to the 2023 season. Clearly he needed the right organizational fit and I'm glad he got it. It's not fun to think about that missed opportunity and what his production might have meant here vs. Geno, but there's no guarantee it would have worked under PC/JS.

 

[Ozzy]

Yes Baker's stats this season are looking very nice and I would take him over Geno based on what I've seen him do over the last 2 seasons. But when he was in Cleveland I was not high on Baker and many others weren't either. His stats were middling

I'm sure its posted here but I wanted Baker in Seattle. He had one good year in Cleveland and showed some flashes with the Rams for me. But I just like the way he plays so was probably a little biased.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt. He's tough as nails, he cares a LOT out there. There's just something about him as a QB that I would love to see here.