Grahamhawker
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#6 Sam Howell
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Not all back-up are QBOTF. The likes of Trubisky, Wentz and Flaco are not QBOTFs but they are backups, most but not all QBOTF are back-ups, it is quite likely thart Tyrod Tailor is the Jets back-up next season but Jordan Travis also makes the cut as 3rd string QB and QBOTF.Until proven otherwise, Howell is the QBOTF. How does that work? Assuming that Geno wins the starting spot, then Howell becomes the backup and is by default the QBOTF. He most likely doesn’t see the field unless Geno gets hurt or stinks the place up. If he does end up playing in a game or few, then the moniker of QBOTF has been proven as true. It means that he is playing QB for the Seahawks and it’s in the future. He is no longer the future but rather the present. How long he maintains that position is clearly dependent on his level of play.
They have Howell under contract for two years. Cheap! We have a brand new coaching staff. The only thing Geno has over Howell is experience. Geno carries over no favoritism from the previous staff. The new staff knows each of them equally well. I see it as an open competition with Geno the slight favorite.
Next year if Geno is gone and Howell is the starter then a new guy will become the QBOTF.
I’m really starting to hate that whole QBOTF future sh it. Can we just go back to backup QB please? Isn’t it kind of assumed that the backup is the future guy, if not by talent but by availability?
It’s not difficult. It’s starter. It’s backup.
I would define a QBOTF as a young quaterback on team that are expecting their current starter to be replaced in the next few years who has the potential of taking over the starter role.
Geno is coming towards the end of his career so the Seahawks need to be actively looking for a replacement, hence in our situation it is very likely our back-up will be our QBOTF.
While it is very likely Geno wins the starting spot, Howell will have the chance to take on the role if he shows he deserves it between now and week 1. The last time we invested a 3rd round pick on a QB, everyone expected Matt Flynn to be our starter, Wilson was probably second favorite for the back-up role behind Jackson but he impressed enough overtake both in the depth chart.
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Mariotta has more of a similar skill set to Daniels than Howell does. Plus mariotta has been around and would be a much better teacher than a 2 year player. There is potential for friction with a 2nd year guy and drafting a guy. Could split the locker room because a lot of guys seemed to like and back Howell.
I honestly think it was just a move on because we are a new regime and it’s not often you get the #2 pick coming in. I think you are reading too much into it. Howell can sit behind Geno, learn a few things. He’s still younger than half the QBs drafted this year. He may work out, he may not. But we gave up a 4th for him not a 1st rounder. He’s dirt cheap too for a QB with his age and experience.
I totally understand your side of it. I just view it differently.
Kamcussionator
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Quinn was holding the #2 pick in a draft rich with QB prospects, so he wanted his guy. He also needed to rebuild a depleted roster.
Howell was drafted in the 5th and Washington wanted a 3rd, so they knew he was a better prospect than they originally thought. They may have been able to get a 1st or 2nd for him if they had 5 years of control left, but he only has two.
Everyone in the league knew Washington would want to move Howell for picks, so it was a buyers market. New Orleans tried to get him for cheap and we were able to slip past them.
So yeah, not damaged goods, but a great 23 year old prospect. Is he better than Jayden Daniels? Who knows? But with Daniels, Quinn gets 5 years to turn around that franchise before starting QB money kicks in instead of two.
That's the only drawback I see on this trade. If he manages to beat out Geno before we can extend him, we'll be paying starter money instead of backup money.
BlueTalon
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You keep arguing from what Washington decided not to do with him. Need I remind you that their entire coaching staff and management staff, the ones responsible for how Howell was used during his time there, were shitcanned? New coaches, new management, new direction... new QB. This isn't rocket surgery.
It can be argued Bradshaw was never super good.
As for the argument they moved on and drafted Daniels. Imho they just drafted RGIII again and will wish they had kept Howell. But Washington has made tons of bad QB moves over the last 30 years.
Hawkinaz
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The fan base and from what I hear the front office were both 50/50 on whether to draft a new QB and build around him or draft a new QB. The rumor is the new owner wanted a new QB and he signs the checks it is being talked about Josh Harris is not popular on how he does things. When it is all said and done could he be worse than Dan Snyder?
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This sounds like how it realistically went down, Harris made a command decision.
Like someone else said, gives them 5 years of team control vs 2 years with Howell, plus sells more tickets & jerseys.
I'm sure Quinn & Kingsbury will put Daniels in better situation than Rivera/Bieniemy did Howell. But I don't think this will be a fun rookie season for Jayden Daniels as there are not enough pieces around him & won't be for some time.
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Vegas odds for Washington total wins is 6.5
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Another voice of reason.
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It would be nice to get a QB where you can laud their past successes instead of turning people into pretzels twisting to excuse their past failures.
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JUNKIES: Mike Lombardi would rather have Sam Howell than 'maybe all the first-round QBs besides Caleb Williams'
“I said this offseason: I would rather have had Sam Howell than a lot of these quarterbacks that are drafted in the first round,” Lombardi said. “Other than Caleb Williams, I probably would rather have Sam Howell than any of them.”
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True, and they could have just kept him as the backup instead of bringing in Mariota. They’d rather have a low round draft pick than use him as their backup.
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“Through 7 games” lol
”after week 12“ LOL
”MORE FANTASY POINTS” RrrrrOoooFffffffLlllllk!!!!
cherry picking again lol just go away
morgulon1
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I agree. I think the odds of success are better with this kind of guy.
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Easy big Mike it's the offseason. Besides you seem like a fantasy football guy, I thought you'd like that.
keasley45
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Being rooted in the east coast and friends and family to many Commanders fans, I can tell you that Howell has a special 'IT' factor. The dude is talented and has a knack for making a play when it seems like there isn't one to be made.
He was given a poor go at things in Washington, having to shoulder far too much of the offense as their OC often seemed more on a mission to prove he wasn't a lacky in Andy Reids's shadow than he was wanting to win games.
I'm pretty excited to see what he can do here and wouldnt be at all surprised if he turned out to be our next starting qb.
He was given a poor go at things in Washington, having to shoulder far too much of the offense as their OC often seemed more on a mission to prove he wasn't a lacky in Andy Reids's shadow than he was wanting to win games.
I'm pretty excited to see what he can do here and wouldnt be at all surprised if he turned out to be our next starting qb.
Hawkinaz
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No. Washington is doing everything they can do to have Daniel’s be successful and keeping a young QB there who used to have the job isn’t good just like the Bears didn’t retain Fields. Washington got a veteran QB who is ok with playing a player/coach role
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