Seahawks Trade for NO WR Rashid Shaheed

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Two firsts is not the same as a pair of day 3 picks
I understand it’s not the same, but you can’t take the one sentence and make it my only contention as there was a lot more to it.
 

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Adams was coming off his 3rd consecutive All Pro season in just his 4th year in the league. He was going to get a massive contract regardless. We have no idea if the Seahawks gave him by far more than anyone else would have or not.
The point is you hamstring yourself by not negotiating a contract prior to the trade. That is all I’m trying to say. That is all! I’m not talking about pro bowl years, I’m not talking about the compensation they gave, just that you hamstring yourself when it comes time to resign that player with the agent knowing that you gave up draft picks to acquire them for a short period.
 

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Your contention was that Seattle lost leverage due not signing him before the trade when he’s a free agent, and that because they gave up draft picks for him they’d be backed into a corner.

When I contested this, you gave Jamal Adams as evidence

If that wasn’t the same, I’m not sure why you chose it as your example

Again, John is not backed into any corner or impacted at all by the fact they gave up two 3rd day picks

End of story
 

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I like the trade he's a weapon, and we need speed on the otherside of JSN, and i do know this will open up our #3 WR Horton to make plays. 😉
 

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Not sweating the picks in the least. Right now we have...

1st Rounder
2nd Rounder
3rd Rounder
6th Rounder

We could recoup some draft capital if we lose either Mafe, Woolen, or both to FAcy, if I'm not mistaken. From there, JS can just do his trade-down-thing and recoup one or more additional picks. Covered.

Im not sweating the cost one bit. Lot of people talking about next years draft (and not just Stanton) with other trades that went down and how ‘26 is supposedly very weak.

But what alleviates my concerns is the fact the Seahawks rostered 11 rookies on their 53 man roster and all 11 still remain. They have a 12th rookie in Rylie Mills waiting to be activated.

Then they have another 8-9 rookies on the PSquad with some of them showing promise like Paul, JR, Wright, and Kight.

We are looking at like 15 players from this last class that could be on the roster next season. Thats a big time haul and it put them in a good place to give up those picks for Rasheed.
 

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The point is you hamstring yourself by not negotiating a contract prior to the trade. That is all I’m trying to say. That is all! I’m not talking about pro bowl years, I’m not talking about the compensation they gave, just that you hamstring yourself when it comes time to resign that player with the agent knowing that you gave up draft picks to acquire them for a short period.
It's a measured risk, not a suicide leap. Especially given this team, this year, in this situation, and with John's history of turning such rentals into cornerstones.
 
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It's a measured risk, not a suicide leap. Especially given this team, this year, in this situation, and with John's history of turning such rentals into cornerstones.
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Given how our GM is hitting mid-round picks out of the park as of late, I'm not thrilled giving up two of them for a guy in the last year of his deal, but it looks like a good move for a good player. I can see why the team would want Shaheed. He's the vertical threat we were hoping was going to be MVS, this is just the non dumpster-diving version of that move. I imagine he'll be our #3.

We really needed to add another WR to the mix anyway. Kupp is hurt and we don't know how much he has left in the tank anyway. Horton is WAY outperforming his draft slot, but he's still a rookie, and rookies often hit the rookie wall. Bobo is the antithesis of a vertical thread, aside from being very vertical himself. Young and White have splash plays here and there, but you can't depend on either to get open consistently.

JSN with Germaine Ifedi and J'Marcus Webb as our #2 and #3 wideouts would be better than a lot of teams. JSN with Horton/Shaheed/Kupp/Bobo/White is pretty damn good. Not so good that JSN shouldn't be wrapped in the world's thickest layer of bubble tape whenever he's not actively playing, but pretty damn good.

That’s because hortons drafts slot should’ve been higher but teams passed. Dude was projected to be a first or second round Wr. Got injured his sr yr and teams passed. He’s a steal
 

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Shaheed doesn't have any say over if and where he's traded, but he does have a say in if he wants to sign a new contract, and it's entirely possible that he was advised to wait it out until free agency. It's a little different than Adams, who knew he could re-set the market regardless of whether he was a free agent. His value was as high as it was ever going to be in that moment.
 

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It's a steep price for a rental at a position we don't need. Sure, we aren't forced to re-sign him, but it looks like a foolish trade if we don't, or if he doesn't perform at a level where we'd want him back.
Why not use one of those picks to trade for an upgrade at C or RG, and the other pick to bolster the WR group?

Too much risk, not enough reward.
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Shaheed is top 20 in receptions and top 25 in receiving yards this season, and that was on a team with a bottom 5 offense and Spencer Rattler at QB averaging less than 200 passing yards per game.

Considering the fact that there are 32 teams, and every one of those teams has at least 4-5 WR's, I'd say being a top 20-25 WR in the league is above average, and quite frankly, WAY above average.
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Apparently we don't need the WR position with Kupp not doing much, hampered... and Bobo.. STILL doing nothing while dot net claiming he's the next largent (no no not all of you just a select few even if tongue in cheek heh)
 

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I'm not a troll! He only had 349yards in 2024. Why does he make so little? Is he better than Tory Horton.
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Its crazy how some people care more about what was given up rather than what was gained in x’s and o’s.

Seahawks now have a feared deep threat and team first WR that defenses are now going to have to account for and match-up by taking bodies out of the box which helps the run game which helps the defense. And if DCs choose to keep stacking the LOS vs our heavy sets having a dude with his kind of flash and speed only strengthens an already elite deep passing attack. Not only that but he’s been solid in the screen game and jet sweeps and can return the rock. He’s the Dee Eskridge that never was.

It just deepens both our WR corps and our return units. He’s a versatile weapon for Kubiak and might unlock the entirety of Kubiak’s offense… in the passing game, in the running game, and most importantly a player that’ll eat up those stupid gimmick plays with his snaps and produce better shit.

They are somewhat different players, different games but for the sake of keeping it relative to Sam Darnold imo this is almost akin to adding a Jordan Addison to this team. You know with JSN already over taking Jettas as the #1 WR this year.
 
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I like this trade. Kupp had the high-ankle strain against AZ, then came back and tweaked his hammy so it's questionable whether he's going to get healthy AT ALL by the end of the season.

Adding a *productive* WR with speed means teams will not be able to bracket JSN as much down the stretch. In addition, having two elite receivers on the outside will make it harder to blitz or put 8 men in the box.

Horton has talent, although he is still learning. I see our WR room as JSN, Shaheed, and Horton. That's a great nucleus, and doesn't make our passing game completely dependent on JSN.

Given Kupp is destined to be a cap casualty in the off season, we will have the money to resign Shaheed too without really changing our cap situation.
 

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It's a measured risk, not a suicide leap. Especially given this team, this year, in this situation, and with John's history of turning such rentals into cornerstones.
I agree with this statement
 
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