NFC West...

[SoulfishHawk]

word, yo. Or something like that.

 

[94Smith]

he did say RIGHT NOW, not WEEK ONE. Yes, the whiners beat the hawks by four points in the first game. Scored a whopping 17 points. And held a team with a brand new offense, new OC, new QB to 13 points. We'll see in week 18 if anything has changed.....but I agree with @SantaClaraHawk - RIGHT NOW I think the Seahawks are a better team.

He said if the 49ers were healthy they would beat them. The only time the 49ers were "healthy" was week one. Of course the Seahawks would beat the 49ers right now because they are not healthy. But if they were healthy I am not so sure. The Seahawks have not been able to beat the 49ers consistently under Shanahan. And the "new Qb , new offense, and new OC" seemed to do just fine in week 2 against the Steelers scoring 31 points. They needed that one week to figure everything out ? Sounds like an excuse

 

[Torc]

He said if the 49ers were healthy they would beat them. The only time the 49ers were "healthy" was week one. Of course the Seahawks would beat the 49ers right now because they are not healthy. But if they were healthy I am not so sure. The Seahawks have not been able to beat the 49ers consistently under Shanahan. And the "new Qb , new offense, and new OC" seemed to do just fine in week 2 against the Steelers scoring 31 points. They needed that one week to figure everything out ? Sounds like an excuse

They still haven't figured out the offense. The run game, which is Coach Macdonald's priority, ranks 21st in the league and isn't consistently generating yards. So yes, the first game Kubiak got an idea of what he had against a non-preseason defense, and adjusted accordingly. We're fortunate to have the JSN/Darnold combination, it's hidden other flaws. But that's normal - offenses always take longer to gel, even players who have been together a few years tend to start the year slowly. So yes, I believe the strides they've made in figuring each other out would result in making up the 4 point deficit that we suffered in that week one loss.

And you know.....strength and conditioning coaches are part of the team. There are always going to be injuries that happen due to hits or someone comes down on another players leg wrong or somesuch....but there are also injuries due to bad conditioning and training. The Whiners always seem to be in that boat, and in years past we've heard the refrain "it's because they went deep in the playoffs and had less time to recover". That's not the case this year, is it? And playcallers who put their players at risk repeatedly is also a problem. It's costing your team.

 

[94Smith]

And playcallers who put their players at risk repeatedly is also a problem. It's costing your team.

Playcallers didnt break Warners ankle or tear Bosas ACL. Those are the two big ones

 

[94Smith]

Also they fired the strength and conditioning coach in 2019 , but the injuries continued. I do agree with you the play calling has to have an influence on offense. I think the 7 step drops, zone run scheme and lots of passes in the middle of the field contribute

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Also they fired the strength and conditioning coach in 2019 , but the injuries continued. I do agree with you the play calling has to have an influence on offense. I think the 7 step drops, zone run scheme and lots of passes in the middle of the field contribute

Writers other than Cohn are starting to notice there’s a power substation next to Niners practice fields and maybe that’s the reason.

 

[IndyHawk]

Good to see you MArvin, btw

Hello @Marvin49, I share the same thought.
I wondered what happened to you.

 

[94Smith]

Writers other than Cohn are starting to notice there’s a power substation next to Niners practice fields and maybe that’s the reason.

For real?

You never know. Energy flows through the world in many more ways than we fully understand

 

[94Smith]

power substations don't get your rookie first round WR shot in downtown SF though. I swear sometimes you can't make that shXt up any better

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

power substations don't get your rookie first round WR shot in downtown SF though. I swear sometimes you can't make that shXt up any better

I take it you didn’t see the injury rankings that credited Pearsall with six games with the injury “shot in chest.”

 

[FrodosFinger]

He said if the 49ers were healthy they would beat them. The only time the 49ers were "healthy" was week one. Of course the Seahawks would beat the 49ers right now because they are not healthy. But if they were healthy I am not so sure. The Seahawks have not been able to beat the 49ers consistently under Shanahan. And the "new Qb , new offense, and new OC" seemed to do just fine in week 2 against the Steelers scoring 31 points. They needed that one week to figure everything out ? Sounds like an excuse

Week one is like a fourth preseason game. Can’t count how many self inflicted mistakes the Hawks made in that game but nothing was ever won week 1. We started 2-5 one year and went to the Super Bowl

 

[glenwo2]

Week one is like a fourth preseason game. Can’t count how many self inflicted mistakes the Hawks made in that game but nothing was ever won week 1. We started 2-5 one year and went to the Super Bowl

Not sure why it's so difficult for "certain people" to understand that Darnold was put in a virtual strait-jacket by Kubiak in Game 1 and only let him loose (a little bit) in the 4th quarter.

Had he let him loose a bit earlier, we would've won against this so-called "Healthy" Whiners team.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I didn’t sense that Darnold was overly restricted in that game. Kubiak appreciated and attempted to exploit the Niner weak spots having been a Niner recently himself. And he nearly succeeded there until it came to the tonges catch. Which was a Hail Mary tossed high and slightly behind by a qb who was freshly hurt on an injury he still hasn’t recovered from. The only reason the pass was even attempted was because Shan didn’t want to risk moody out there. Exactly where Kubiak wanted him.

Kubiak did enough, but we had woolen, so we did not win.

 

[chris98251]

F*ck the 49ers and anyone who roots for that team, okay?


This is a Seattle Seahawks board.

We root for them here. (I may be a noob here but even I know that much)


This isn't some thing going on here where everyone is holding hands while singing kumbaya.

They're NFC Division Rivals and any trash-talk here about them is fair game, especially here so long as it stays here and not taken to their forum (which I imagine no one here has done that 'cause that would be trolling; am I right, 94smith?).

Talk is fine, Trash and Smack goes in the Shack. Discussion here with all NFC West or any team has been welcome since I was a MOD, our Rose-Colored Glasses need what others view us as to give us perspective as well as respecting those fans who want ours.

 

[chris98251]

First Game, New QB who was familiar with system but still a work in process as was whole offense, Line assembled on the fly, Bradford was playing so that would be like having a 49er playing on our O line. Come on in guys.

Still we gave you more then you wanted to handle, I was not expecting a win, was expecting them to learn and improve.

We did that. Healthy against Healthy I think at this point we have the edge, we are younger and trending up, 49ers are experienced and older and trending down. It's the nature of the beast.

 

[glenwo2]

I didn’t sense that Darnold was overly restricted in that game. Kubiak appreciated and attempted to exploit the Niner weak spots having been a Niner recently himself. And he nearly succeeded there until it came to the tonges catch. Which was a Hail Mary tossed high and slightly behind by a qb who was freshly hurt on an injury he still hasn’t recovered from. The only reason the pass was even attempted was because Shan didn’t want to risk moody out there. Exactly where Kubiak wanted him.

Kubiak did enough, but we had woolen, so we did not win.

I very much disagree with the bolded sentiment.

When the team goes through a game where only *ONE* Playaction pass is called for the entirety of that game, that's basically the definition of Darnold being overly restricted.

In fact, our offense started taking off the moment Kubiak started calling Playaction passes with regularity from Game 2 onward.

Had he done what he's done from Game 2 onward in Game 1, we would've put up at least 24-31 points on them and won.

Face it : Kubiak outsmarted himself instead of just going with the gameplan he should've gone with from the get-go.

Look at how effective the team started looking when he finally let Darnold loose late in the game. However, by the time he finally decided to do that, it was a bit too late (also, Woolen being Woolen, and the Darnold/Lucas/Bosa fiasco didn't help matters).

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I take it you didn’t see the injury rankings that credited Pearsall with six games with the injury “shot in chest.”

@94Smith Pearsall may be working through more than his immediate football injury. He was healthy when he fought an armed robber who shot him point blank in the chest and isn’t now. The 17 year old gang member who shot him was released at 18 as a misunderstood child after a hearing that Pearsall’s mom attended. Given that the Yorks every year send players to San Quentin so that said players can appreciate how they should have been “helped” with no incarceration as children, the chaplain (who has run the program for decades) is likely at some level signaling Pearsall to suck it and stuff it as to the fact that he’s here today because he was healthy when he had to defend himself against being shot through the chest at point blank.

 

[FrodosFinger]

49er fans calling for John Lynch’s head for 4 bad drafts in a row. I doubt it was Lynch’s idea to draft a kicker in the 3rd round. They can’t afford quality or depth because of the high end contracts to old, brittle players past their prime and a $50 million dollar quarterback that makes Tim Rattay look like Dan Marino. What a shit show. 3rd place for the next decade guaranteed for the lowly 69ers

 

[FrodosFinger]

@94Smith Pearsall may be working through more than his immediate football injury. He was healthy when he fought an armed robber who shot him point blank in the chest and isn’t now. The 17 year old gang member who shot him was released at 18 as a misunderstood child after a hearing that Pearsall’s mom attended. Given that the Yorks every year send players to San Quentin so that said players can appreciate how they should have been “helped” with no incarceration as children, the chaplain (who has run the program for decades) is likely at some level signaling Pearsall to suck it and stuff it as to the fact that he’s here today because he was healthy when he had to defend himself against being shot through the chest at point blank.

Only in Nancy Pelosi’s district can you get away with shooting a citizen and walking away with the key to the city. Some punk on a kick scooter is now free to shoot again. SMH

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Only in Nancy Pelosi’s district can you get away with shooting a citizen and walking away with the key to the city. Some punk on a kick scooter is now free to shoot again. SMH

Players have left teams before due to non football trauma associated with the area. Being welcomed to San Francisco by a youth who shot you clear through the chest in front of the Louis Vuitton store downtown is such a trauma. Knowing that said youth now adult and his family or friends could purchase pregame access to you compounds it. I wouldn’t be surprised if he requests a trade before his rookie contract ends.