Raiders and Geno reach an agreement

[Hawkinaz]

Brandon Nelson had a very whiney video on the signing that I turned off after about 5 minutes he was blaming the Seahawks that they didn’t sign Geno when the contract he has agreed to was only $1 million less on total value to what Darnold signed. He doesn’t get it that Geno wanted to play for Pete and no amount of money from the Seahawks was going to change that

 

[glenwo2]

Just picturing the throws, decision making, boost in an already robust proficiency.

But, you’re correct. I don’t know.

Well hopefully Sam is up to the task.

 

[cymatica]

And I've yet to get answer from him as to how he knows he's (Geno) better if he never played in a Kubiak offense, though?

that's because the answer would amount to assumptions.

What we do know is that we have a younger QB, a 3rd round pick, and a coordinator who is familiar with his qb

 

[glenwo2]

that's because the answer would amount to assumptions.

What we do know is that we have a younger QB, a 3rd round pick, and a coordinator who is familiar with his qb

It's alright. As you can see, I got my answer.

 

[keasley45]

It's a reasonable deal for both sides.

This is speculation on my part, but seeing what he was willing to sign for, very likely he would have taken the same amount from the Seahawks.

Schneider and Macdonald just made the decision at one point that they would rather roll with Darnold rather than wait for Geno. Geno did not choose to go to the Raiders, he was traded there. Unlike DK, he did not ask to be traded. I think that it was a bit squirrelly of Schneider to suggest that Geno was going to ask for the moon, when clearly, he was not.

Schneider did clarify in later interviews that Geno at no point ask to be traded, and that it was his decision to "pivot" after not immediately hearing back from Geno's agent on the Seahawks' offer. So clearly, Schneider could have insisted on getting an answer if he felt strongly enough about Geno. I think that Schneider (and Macdonald) just believed that Darnold was the better option. It's a little funny that he not taking full responsibility for that decision, and making it appear as if it was all Geno's doing.

Seahawks wanted to keep Geno Smith and DK Metcalf but had to pivot, GM says

GM John Schneider thought he could resolve DK Metcalf's trade request, while it was "pretty evident" Geno Smith and Seattle were far apart.

www.nytimes.com

They made Geno an offer . Geno refused it and based on it, said 'trade me'. Thats how it happened based directly on John Schneiders account, not speculation.

That smells to me like they offered a one year deal for the reporter 40 to 45 mil and Geno said no.

If thats the case, thats what you call being penny wise and pound foolish. IF they held up essentially the same money over two years that they ended up giving Darnold (assuming he plays well enough to not be cut), to not have Geno here in 2026... i will just say they sure as Sally better have a plan for whatever superstar they apparently see dropping here in 2026 to take us to the promise land (for next to no money). Otherwise, it will be more of the same 9-8 or wrose nonsense for the next 3 years.

 

[keasley45]

that's because the answer would amount to assumptions.

What we do know is that we have a younger QB, a 3rd round pick, and a coordinator who is familiar with his qb

Or the Hawks offered a one year 'prove it' deal when Geno was obviousky more interested in something more than that, they told him their offers would only be that, and he had no interest in negotiating.

From Geno's perspective, to have to play on a prove-it contract, again, for an OC who has about the same track record for being able to engineer a top flight offense as the last 2 lackies we have had calling plays in Seattle (and have his money be toes to their competence), vs going to the Raiders where he will have Pete and Chip for OC and a deal beyond 17 games ? Thats common sense calculation.

 

[SuperSonic67]

On a side note you couldn’t pay me enough to live in Vegas…stay away from those distractions Geno. Career killer's everywhere you look if you’re prone to making bad decisions lol

 

[onanygivensunday]

Sometimes, players just need a change of scenery. I believe that was the case for Geno.

When Pete got fired, Geno lost his "soft shoulder" to cry on (console him) after making another inexplicable red zone brainfart.

By all accounts (actually none, but trying to give my opinion some credibility), John didn't coddle Geno... like, ever!... and Geno just missed his "mommy".

By all accounts, I'm prolly not too far off. lol

 

[HawkRiderFan]

More than actual dollar amount the Hawks offered I want to know what JS offered in guaranteed money vs what the Raiders gave him. Especially at Geno's age that's what would be important to him imo. At that age, if he flames out, getting another good offer is pretty unlikely.

 

[projectorfreak]

The amount of time it took geno to sign says it all
He wanted 50 million a year and ended up settling cuz nobody was offering that
He got what he could but he wanted more and probably wasn't happy about it so we did what we had to
D K pretty much the same

 

[glenwo2]

The amount of time it took geno to sign says it all
He wanted 50 million a year and ended up settling cuz nobody was offering that
He got what he could but he wanted more and probably wasn't happy about it so we did what we had to
D K pretty much the same

Yep. Ended up getting close to what Darnold got after all (especially with Guaranteed money).

All that delay....just to end up with that.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Enjoy those Red Zone Picks, Pete. He's gonna' make you look........PETEiocre.


(running for cover)

 

[chris98251]

I think Geno wanted to be wanted, we brought in Lock and then Howell, he said the right things but read the tea leaves I am sure he did. Pete wanted Geno period, that's why he left, the money was going to be comparable.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Couldn't pay me to pull for the Raiders, even with Pete being there.

 

[glenwo2]

Couldn't pay me to pull for the Raiders, even with Pete being there.

Yep. Doesn't matter where they are whether it was LA, Oakland, or Vegas.....F*CK 'EM.

 

[Scout]

I think Geno wanted to be wanted, we brought in Lock and then Howell, he said the right things but read the tea leaves I am sure he did. Pete wanted Geno period, that's why he left, the money was going to be comparable.

That is true it is not always about money.

I think with DK it definitely was about money more so than anythign else. For Geno the disrespect from JS probably made the decision easier.

JS really has to learn better communication because he is a poor communicator for a GM.

 

[SuperSonic67]

I think the fact that Geno was not beloved by the Seattle fans had a lot to do with it as well. His postgame press conference’s were very telling with comments like “it always falls on my shoulders, starts with me, I’ll take full responsibility”…just seemed more like pouting towards the end to most of us, and not genuine at all…

Or should I say Geno-uine lol

 

[bileever]

They made Geno an offer . Geno refused it and based on it, said 'trade me'. Thats how it happened based directly on John Schneiders account, not speculation.

That smells to me like they offered a one year deal for the reporter 40 to 45 mil and Geno said no.

If thats the case, thats what you call being penny wise and pound foolish. IF they held up essentially the same money over two years that they ended up giving Darnold (assuming he plays well enough to not be cut), to not have Geno here in 2026... i will just say they sure as Sally better have a plan for whatever superstar they apparently see dropping here in 2026 to take us to the promise land (for next to no money). Otherwise, it will be more of the same 9-8 or wrose nonsense for the next 3 years.

Schneider clarified that at no time did Geno ask to be traded. The decision to go with Darnold was completely Schneider and Macdonald's. Nothing wrong with that. I would hope that they have the vision to execute what they think is best, and that they're not at the mercy of other forces.

I just don't understand the need for people here to think that Geno engineered the trade to the Raiders. There is no way he could have guaranteed that he would be traded to the team of his choice. And I don't think he would have preferred to be on the Raiders, a rebuilding team with a much worse roster.

 

[Scout]

True but the Raiders probably offered the most and it worked out for both sides. As for the vision on offense for the Seahawks I am failing to see a vision so far as it looks more like spray and pray.

The draft will be very telling indeed with how they choose to focus building up the roster.

 

[glenwo2]

I, on the other hand, do see a vision on offense if Kubiak's presence is any indication.

It was already pointed out that Kubiak's offense would be more attuned to the running attack with playaction mixed in so Sam won't have to throw the ball 40+ times a game (basically) like he did in Minnesota.

The draft will also lay out what players will be involved in that vision (offense) as well, I imagine.