Things must happen this off season

[CallMeADawg]

I understood it, my point was that it's not recency bias, we can look at the entire season and see a pattern.

If the child continued to misuse the ez bake oven for weeks on end, then maybe they need to play with something else

Stating Grubb needs to be fired because of the Chicago game is recency bias.

The fact that the ex bake oven joke also seemed to go right over your head as well is hilarious.

 

[KinesProf]

The Chicago game was a manifestation representing the problems with Grubb ever since he had called enough games for there to be ample tape and study to be done on him.

He has failed at the absolute rudimentary stuff that you are supposed to learn well before you end up being an NFL OC: tipping play calls with your personnel; running playaction from under center but not actually running from under centre. I'm sure I'm not the only one on here who has noticed this, but if we all know what kind of play is coming based upon the formation and personnel from the comfort of our own homes then the opponents do to, it's why opposing defenses haven't been moved by playaction at all for at least 3/4 of the season. His splits don't make any sense, there is no coherent game plan most weeks, and the play calls seem completely disconnected from each other and don't build upon themselves. He's been calling plays, but he hasn't been calling games - it's an important distinction.

AN EZ Bake Oven is a child's toy for learning and improving with. OC in the NFL is not for figuring it out as you go; it's high stakes big boy stuff. The above listed issues make me think of the "Peter Principle" , where he has been elevated to the level of his incompetence. I like the guy, and like him as a college coach, so I wish this wasn't the case but I can only form an opinion based upon what I am seeing of him at the NFL level.

 

[toffee]

The Chicago game was a manifestation representing the problems with Grubb ever since he had called enough games for there to be ample tape and study to be done on him.

He has failed at the absolute rudimentary stuff that you are supposed to learn well before you end up being an NFL OC: tipping play calls with your personnel; running playaction from under center but not actually running from under centre. I'm sure I'm not the only one on here who has noticed this, but if we all know what kind of play is coming based upon the formation and personnel from the comfort of our own homes then the opponents do to, it's why opposing defenses haven't been moved by playaction at all for at least 3/4 of the season. His splits don't make any sense, there is no coherent game plan most weeks, and the play calls seem completely disconnected from each other and don't build upon themselves. He's been calling plays, but he hasn't been calling games - it's an important distinction.

AN EZ Bake Oven is a child's toy for learning and improving with. OC in the NFL is not for figuring it out as you go; it's high stakes big boy stuff. The above listed issues make me think of the "Peter Principle" , where he has been elevated to the level of his incompetence. I like the guy, and like him as a college coach, so I wish this wasn't the case but I can only form an opinion based upon what I am seeing of him at the NFL level.

The Bears' game was like the "!" of a long sentence, if one compares our offense from the first 3 games of the season to our last three games. That's reason enough to fire Grubb, in my book.

 

[hawkfan68]

Things that must happen this offseason.....find a way to bring Scott McCloughan back to head up the Seahawk scouting dept.

A Big Man's Game - The Scot McCloughan Philosophy

Mark Tyler takes a look at how Scot McCloughan's draft philosophies could play out this offseason.

www.hogshaven.com

 

[Atradees]

Grubb is not getting fired. You guys made that up. None of the coaches are getting fired and Geno is the QB.

 

[Shane Falco]

Things that must happen this offseason.....find a way to bring Scott McCloughan back to head up the Seahawk scouting dept.

A Big Man's Game - The Scot McCloughan Philosophy

Mark Tyler takes a look at how Scot McCloughan's draft philosophies could play out this offseason.

www.hogshaven.com

He was involved in building both Holmgren's and PC's Super Bowl rosters. At the very least, he's a good luck charm.

 

[Maulbert]

Does anyone else think it's funny that toffee seems to think just because he deems it so, it will and MUST happen?

 

[toffee]

Things that must happen this offseason.....find a way to bring Scott McCloughan back to head up the Seahawk scouting dept.

A Big Man's Game - The Scot McCloughan Philosophy

Mark Tyler takes a look at how Scot McCloughan's draft philosophies could play out this offseason.

www.hogshaven.com

I second that.

 

[Chukarhawk]

The Bears' game was like the "!" of a long sentence, if one compares our offense from the first 3 games of the season to our last three games. That's reason enough to fire Grubb, in my book.

Just so were clear, you're in favor of firing a first year O coordinator for fielding the 14th ranked offense with one of the worst o-lines in the league and Geno Smith as the QB? What exactly were you expecting?

 

[cymatica]

Stating Grubb needs to be fired because of the Chicago game is recency bias.

The fact that the ex bake oven joke also seemed to go right over your head as well is hilarious.

No it didn't go over my head, I just simply took your horrible analogy and tried to salvage what I could from it.

The Bears game was just the straw that broke the camels back, not sure how you completely miss that and think anyone is just looking at that game

 

[cymatica]

Just so were clear, you're in favor of firing a first year O coordinator for fielding the 14th ranked offense with one of the worst o-lines in the league and Geno Smith as the QB? What exactly were you expecting?

Geno made that offense go, despite people trying to say he's trash. Look at Howell when he came in and the fact that Grubb had him throw 19 passes in a row then admitted in the press conference that he didn't change anything

 

[Sperrydogg]

I understood it, my point was that it's not recency bias, we can look at the entire season and see a pattern.

If the child continued to misuse the ez bake oven for weeks on end, then maybe they need to play with something else

Kids had real ovens for toys?

 

[Fernie Hawks Fan]

Kids had real ovens for toys?

Yep...and lawn darts too...lol

 

[sc85sis]

Pete fired Jeremy Bates after one year due to “philosophical differences.”

Grubb may well be here next season, but it’s not impossible he could be let go either.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

My list is short and simple:

Better scouts, we haven't drafted an all pro caliber player for how many years? Heck, forget about all pro, probowls caliber linemen? Offense or defense, any names?

Better OC, I advocate to relieve Grubb's play calling 5 games ago. We have Jake Peetz, he may not be better than Grubb, but we could have a preview of what Peetz can or cannot do. Instead we stayed with deadend Grubb, and finally regressed to 6 points vs Bears

If we don't do the above, rest do not matter.

New GM. I've seen enough of this movie. Pete wasn't the personnel problem. "Oline over valued and overrated?". Nope, you're overvalued and overrated.

New OC. Some say Schotty - I don't know who's available - but my dog could have called a better O this year. I want a smashmouth in place that can also balance a finesse passing game. Honestly I want a Dan Campbell type. No backwards baseball cap wearing allowed. If you can say 60/40 or 50/50 "Yes Sir!" on the passing/run balance, you get the job.

Upgrade the ******* Oline already. It's been a decade.

Keep MM. Benchings and other discipline that he did this year make me have hope. He's fine on D when people aren't phoning it in - and I'm fairly sure those personnel should be gone next season.

Tyler gone. Need the cap space. Possibly DK - depending on who the potential incoming OC is. Don't know who we replace DK with. And if there isn't a legit replacement that we can install - I'd waffle on this and say keep him.

That's my shortlist. If anyone cares

 

[toffee]

New GM. I've seen enough of this movie. Pete wasn't the personnel problem. "Oline over valued and overrated?". Nope, you're overvalued and overrated.

New OC. Some say Schotty - I don't know who's available - but my dog could have called a better O this year. I want a smashmouth in place that can also balance a finesse passing game. Honestly I want a Dan Campbell type. No backwards baseball cap wearing allowed. If you can say 60/40 or 50/50 "Yes Sir!" on the passing/run balance, you get the job.

Upgrade the ******* Oline already. It's been a decade.

Keep MM. Benchings and other discipline that he did this year make me have hope. He's fine on D when people aren't phoning it in - and I'm fairly sure those personnel should be gone next season.

Tyler gone. Need the cap space. Possibly DK - depending on who the potential incoming OC is. Don't know who we replace DK with. And if there isn't a legit replacement that we can install - I'd waffle on this and say keep him.

That's my shortlist. If anyone cares

THE most important move after tomorrow's game is to fire Grubb, and get a new OC in ASAP. That way, the new OC and our young Macdonlad can have a positive input on the personnel for our coming offense. That will include the keep or trade/cut of our existing roster.

No time to waste here, once we have the new OC, if he is a gap/zone running kinda of dude, we will draft OL accordingly.

Last season, we waited too long and got the runt of the litter. That was understandable as Schneider waited for Macdonald. We shan't and mustn't repeat that mistake.

 

[flv2]

...Grubb may well be here next season, but it’s not impossible he could be let go either.

That about covers it.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

THE most important move after tomorrow's game is to fire Grubb, and get a new OC in ASAP. That way, the new OC and our young Macdonlad can have a positive input on the personnel for our coming offense. That will include the keep or trade/cut of our existing roster.

No time to waste here, once we have the new OC, if he is a gap/zone running kinda of dude, we will draft OL accordingly.

Last season, we waited too long and got the runt of the litter. That was understandable as Schneider waited for Macdonald. We shan't and mustn't repeat that mistake.

Agreed -

I know it's not popular - but again, JS needs to go IMO. Found out where the draft/scouting/personnel problem is after Pete left!!!!

 

[Titus Pullo]

Geno is Elite and Grubb is a genius.

 

[toffee]

Agreed -

I know it's not popular - but again, JS needs to go IMO. Found out where the draft/scouting/personnel problem is after Pete left!!!!

I wouldn't count on that, JS is still enjoying the benefit of hiring Macdonald who's coaching fixed our defense. In short, Macdonald can save Schneider's job for one season. BUT, I am assuming the hiring of Grubb wasn't Schneider's idea, or he strong-armed Macdonald into hiring Grubb. If he did, he should be fired.