I need answers

[hawks85]

WTF happened last night? WTF was that? Jesus Christ, we got bitched slapped back to the boon docks. Woolen, dude you gotta gotta go. You are now officially garbage in my book. You play like you're wearing a skirt and afraid of breaking a nail. I'm sick and tired of this crap. It feels like we lost on purpose. There was no adjustments. I'm phukking done with Smith, done. I'm tired of telling people that Geno and Grubb are not it and no one listens. Grubb isn't an NFL level OC and Smith is wanna QB trying to break out of the I'm a complete bust mode. Macdonald, c'mon man, you gotta do better than that. Your play calling was atrocious tonight. We got EMBARRASSED on national TV AGAIN. GB isn't even that good of a team. They had 7 god damn sacks, 7, and we had GOOSE EGG. We got pushed around by a mediocre team at best in front of a national audience.

 

[cymatica]

GB isn't even that good of a team.

Lol what? They are one of the best teams. They have one of the best olines that is homegrown, with the best RT, and a top run game and have proven over the last 2 years they can hang with anyone.

Contrast that with Seattle. We have a dog crap patch work Oline that's been neglected for years, a college OC that is proving to be in over his head, and a first year head coach who is trying to not only install his system but also learning on the fly how to coach a team.

 

[Chapow]

I think the Packers are clearly better than mediocre, and I'm quite positive they're better than us. Their only losses this season were the Lions (twice), Eagles, and Vikings (the best teams in the NFC), and only 1 of those losses was by more than 5 points. There are only 5 teams in the league with a better record than GB. They're pretty darn good.

 

[SonicHawk]

Green Bay is a good team. They also played really really well. A great scheme, great playcalling.

You are a fan of a team that is over .500 and pushing for a playoff spot going into Week 16. I think you need to chill a little bit.

 

[hawks85]

Green Bay is a good team. They also played really really well. A great scheme, great playcalling.

You are a fan of a team that is over .500 and pushing for a playoff spot going into Week 16. I think you need to chill a little bit.

I don't need to cill out. This shit needs to change. GB hasn't impressed me at all. Their whole god damn offense is Jacobs. Their defense is trash. They've beaten NOBODY good. What do you mean they're good. Enlighten me? Their stats are padded by them beating up banged teams. We are much better than what was shown last night. There was no fight in this team at all last night, none.

 

[SonicHawk]

I don't need to cill out. This shit needs to change. GB hasn't impressed me at all. Their whole god damn offense is Jacobs. Their defense is trash. They've beaten NOBODY good. What do you mean they're good. Enlighten me? Their stats are padded by them beating up banged teams. We are much better than what was shown last night. There was no fight in this team at all last night, none.

We're both fans of the same team talking about some football to relax.

10-4 teams are good. Stats are padded by nothing.

7th in PPG, 3rd in Red Zone Attempts Per Game, 4th in YPG, 2nd in Yards Per Play -- that sounds like a good team.

Their defense is 10th in YPG, 8th in Yards Per play, 8th in Yards Per Rush Attempt.

They outplayed the Hawks last night, no doubt. They beat their brains in a bit in the first half and then crushed poor Howell.

But sometimes when you're an average team you lose to good teams.

 

[CouchLogic]

GB kicked Seattle's $$@ and made them their B!+@#. On to the next one.

 

[cymatica]

I don't need to cill out. This shit needs to change. GB hasn't impressed me at all. Their whole god damn offense is Jacobs. Their defense is trash. They've beaten NOBODY good. What do you mean they're good. Enlighten me? Their stats are padded by them beating up banged teams. We are much better than what was shown last night. There was no fight in this team at all last night, none.

This is just flat out wrong. You can stick any RB behind that oline. They beat the Texans who are a good team and their worst loss was by 10 against Detroit. They've only lost to division opponents who happen to be the best teams. Yeah they've had an easy schedule outside the division but they don't have any losses against bad or even average teams. They've dominated the NFCW.

I just don't understand how you can claim they aren't good. Everyone knew this game was a litmus test for Seattle.

 

[Hotchy]

We actually did make adjustments. Trust me, I had Jacobs and needed around 24 pts to advance in playoffs. He almost won it in the 1st qtr. Seattle totally shut him down in the 2nd half. Sending my fantasy season down the drain.
On a side note, Sam Howell is not an nfl qb. I can't tell whose worse, Howell or Lock

 

[SonicHawk]

We actually did make adjustments. Trust me, I had Jacobs and needed around 24 pts to advance in playoffs. He almost won it in the 1st qtr. Seattle totally shut him down in the 2nd half. Sending my fantasy season down the drain.
On a side note, Sam Howell is not an nfl qb. I can't tell whose worse, Howell or Lock

Lock beat philly so he’s on my good side of non nfl qb heroes

 

[BASF]

At least you had the intelligence to mention Macdonald in your post. You have been hugging on him ever since he was hired, but the truth is he got outcoached last night by a country mile. You can blame the players all you want for those first three drives that demoralized our team and fans, but the truth is that LaFleur knew exactly how Macdonald would have his defense moving with his alignments and had his back going the opposite direction. They were pushed around because they were stepping the wrong direction the entire first three series. That is called watching your opponents tendencies leading up to your game and exploiting them. It is exactly what we did to Arizona in our second game facing them and most of the fans here were fooled into thinking we turned a corner.

I loved the Macdonald hire. He is the one I wanted from the very first quarter that we were playing against the Ravens and he was looking confident on their sideline and our offensive players seem mystified. However, while you were, "He finally can do what he wants" and expecting the best defense almost immediately, most of us were expecting growing pains. That is what we witnessed last night.

 

[evergreen]

You are mad that a good team with a top notch coach came in here and put it to us. If we had been playing our best football we may have scored some and changed the game.

 

[cymatica]

At least you had the intelligence to mention Macdonald in your post. You have been hugging on him ever since he was hired, but the truth is he got outcoached last night by a country mile. You can blame the players all you want for those first three drives that demoralized our team and fans, but the truth is that LaFleur knew exactly how Macdonald would have his defense moving with his alignments and had his back going the opposite direction. They were pushed around because they were stepping the wrong direction the entire first three series. That is called watching your opponents tendencies leading up to your game and exploiting them. It is exactly what we did to Arizona in our second game facing them and most of the fans here were fooled into thinking we turned a corner.

I loved the Macdonald hire. He is the one I wanted from the very first quarter that we were playing against the Ravens and he was looking confident on their sideline and our offensive players seem mystified. However, while you were, "He finally can do what he wants" and expecting the best defense almost immediately, most of us were expecting growing pains. That is what we witnessed last night.

Yet the rookie head coach did adjust and shut down the run after those first few drives. If Geno doesn't get injured, it's probably a 1 score game at the end with a chance to win.

 

[Kamcussionator]

Green Bay ran the table on the NFCW this year. Only the Rams gave them a game. The Cardinals lost by 21 and the 49ers by 24.

So it's not like we lost to a bad team. We are just a 1st year team and lack consistency is all. The same guys you all want fired this week were "seeing the light" last week. The same guys that had been a top 5 defense last week, gave up 30 this week.

Have some perspective folks. You can choose to enjoy the last three weeks of the season or not. It's up to you.

 

[toffee]

You need answers?
Ready?
OK,
here we go:

YOUNG MCDONALD ​

 

[hawks85]

At least you had the intelligence to mention Macdonald in your post. You have been hugging on him ever since he was hired, but the truth is he got outcoached last night by a country mile. You can blame the players all you want for those first three drives that demoralized our team and fans, but the truth is that LaFleur knew exactly how Macdonald would have his defense moving with his alignments and had his back going the opposite direction. They were pushed around because they were stepping the wrong direction the entire first three series. That is called watching your opponents tendencies leading up to your game and exploiting them. It is exactly what we did to Arizona in our second game facing them and most of the fans here were fooled into thinking we turned a corner.

I loved the Macdonald hire. He is the one I wanted from the very first quarter that we were playing against the Ravens and he was looking confident on their sideline and our offensive players seem mystified. However, while you were, "He finally can do what he wants" and expecting the best defense almost immediately, most of us were expecting growing pains. That is what we witnessed last night.

You can slice it up any you want but the fact of the matter is GB isn't as good as people and the media are making them out to be. GB outcaoched us the first few drives. We COMPLETELY shut down Jacobs in the second half and by that time it was too late. GB won that game during the first few drives. Outside of that circus catch in the end zone by the GB WR, they only had 6 points in the second half. If our offense showed up like last week we would have blown GB out. They're not that good and I don't care what the stats say or anyone else. Their entire offense is Jacobs that's it. Take that dude out of the picture and you're looking at 6-9 GB team.

 

[SonicHawk]

That's not how anything works.

 

[cymatica]

You can slice it up any you want but the fact of the matter is GB isn't as good as people and the media are making them out to be. GB outcaoched us the first few drives. We COMPLETELY shut down Jacobs in the second half and by that time it was too late. GB won that game during the first few drives. Outside of that circus catch in the end zone by the GB WR, they only had 6 points in the second half. If our offense showed up like last week we would have blown GB out. They're not that good and I don't care what the stats say or anyone else. Their entire offense is Jacobs that's it. Take that dude out of the picture and you're looking at 6-9 GB team.

What do you base your assessment of them on? You claim without Jacobs they are 6-9. Ok, explain that. Explain how one of the best olines would just start playing bad without Jacobs. Explain how they are not that good when they were a few plays away from the NFCCG last season and followed it up with one of the best records this year while in the best division. Explain how you are so surprised that a team without a bad loss this year dominated a team that has been blown out, lost to the Giants, and can't run the ball.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Ran into a much better team, especially in the trenches. This was a huge reality check. Let's see how they bounce back.
And, not to argue, but GB is a VERY good team.

 

[Fernie Hawks Fan]

Ran into a much better team, especially in the trenches. This was a huge reality check. Let's see how they bounce back.
And, not to argue, but GB is a VERY good team.

I believe they are a good team. And let's not forget...they are the youngest team in the league...high ceiling.