Geno Smith is Dave Krieg….

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I can accept that I'm too hard on Geno at times, and he does do a lot of things very well, but his decision making in the red zone is just inexcusable for an alleged veteran QB. We're not always going to get away with it. Hell, we probably win the Lions game at least if his brain doesn't do whatever the hell it does deep in opponent territory. I don't fault anyone who wonders whether we'd be able to trust him in the playoffs. He's 34. We shouldn't be waiting for him to develop this stuff.
And there is the common denominator and a bad one at that. He turns into peanut brain Geno in the red zone.
You can’t have that. If you do that against a good team, then they will punish you for it.
They should figure out what is causing this, because out of the red zone he does not panic as bad as that. They either fix it or they have to move on.
 

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To Geno’s credit, he is making something happen with an offense that can’t consistently run between the Tackles.
I've about come to the conclusion we can't make anything happen because we ARE running consistently between the tackles. Or, more accurately, running into a wall between the tackles.
 

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I've about come to the conclusion we can't make anything happen because we ARE running consistently between the tackles. Or, more accurately, running into a wall between the tackles.
IMO a huge problem (not the only one) is the overuse of the shotgun. Running out of the shotgun just doesn't seem to work well a lot of times. Play action also suffers.
 

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I was too young to see kreig play. Genos picks are becoming a problem though and they seem to be at really bad moments. The defense bailed him out
 

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IMO a huge problem (not the only one) is the overuse of the shotgun. Running out of the shotgun just doesn't seem to work well a lot of times. Play action also suffers.
they were under center a bunch in the last 2 games.
 

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Geno would be so much better if he would just throw it away or run after three seconds. Plays are likely to work or not based on the situation. He doesn't seem to realize this and wants every play to work. He just sits back there for an eternity sometimes...
 

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Geno would be so much better if he would just throw it away or run after three seconds. Plays are likely to work or not based on the situation. He doesn't seem to realize this and wants every play to work. He just sits back there for an eternity sometimes...
Your starting QB, especially one who's a vet, should know the situation in front of him. Throwing that pick was inexcusable, period. NO EXCUSE for that crap. Again.
 

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Nah. Krieg was either hot or cold the entire game. He didn't go back and forth in the same one.
This.

Krieg would screw up all on his own. He could have a clean pocket, all day to throw, a guy wide open, and then either have the ball fall out of his hands as he is winding up, or just inexplicably toss it right to the defense.

And when he started to spiral, there was rarely any coming back.
 

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Well, Geno had a very good shot at a first down with his feet and a chance to put up huge points on the board. What did he do? Threw a pick right to the defender in the end zone. Again.
 

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I eould really love it if someone had the time to post vid recaps of all of Geno's interceptions this year.

In terms of just dumb plays, he's made 3 so far that there is no excuse for. The rollout arm tip pick 6 against the Rams, the pick last week against the 9ers where he was betting on JSN turning up field and he threw it to the safety, and the one against arizona. You could add a 4th in the toss up to JSN that was picked to close out the Detroit game.

To reframe history as if he is somehow an idiot when 4 of the picks were TRULY bad and 8 were either tipped, hit the wr in the hands or the body, a result of a penalty that shoukd have been called on the D or a slight overthrow with pressure in his face, is silly.

If the vids of the other 8 ints were posted and analyzed, it woukd be pretty obvious and at least quell the notion that the qbs head is broken.

I say that only to make the point that the gap between where the qb play is now and where it needs to be for us to contend isnt so great as some would like to make it seem.

Geno absolutley does need to stop thinking he is superman and just give up on some plays when they arent there ( like the AZ pick and the 'too late' throw away against the Rams).

He also needs to stop F'ing back pedaling when under pressure and just break contain and escape laterally to extend plays.

And he needs to stop betting on getting enough protection when the blitz is coming, because he believes he will be able to hit the big play. He's done this more times than i can count, gambling that the vulnerability the defense offers, he can exploit.

But for Christmas' sake all of the ' ITS INEXCUSABLE'... ' HES A TERRIBLE DECISION MAKER' talk is comical.

I think folks are conflating the comedy of errors that happened in the Bills game and attributing them to him when they werent his doing. If he doesnt get stepped on and doesnt have williams snap the ball 3 yards over our heads, i dont think there's nearly the feeling that he's a walking disaster in the redzone.

Simple fact that has haunted this team going on 3 years now is that its hard to succeed inside the 10 and 20 if you dont have a run game. When the field compresses, throwing lanes get tighter, windows smaller, and the defense gains an advantage, especially when they know you cant best them on the ground.

We live off of the pass WAY too much. And Geno has become accustomed to doing too much. Is he wrong for thinking if he doesnt make the play that it wont be made? To date, probably not. But there needs to be better balance on the offense and more creativity in the run game.

His INTs in the redzone in my opinion is far less troubling than the fact that his comoletion percentage in the redzone was in the mid to low 40s over 2023.

Again. You cant expect to consistently score in the redzone if you dont pose a threat on the ground.

If Grubb would spend as much time scheming a solid run game as he does trying to scheme AROUND the run game, we might have something.

Until then, we wont reach our potential.

But Geno v Kreig?

Tell you what, If Geno was our qb on Jan 8, 1984, we'd have gone to the SB long before Holmy came along. Krieg picked the absolute WORST game to forget to show up for. He was awful. Orders of magnitude a
More awful than Geno has ever been as a Seahawk, or Jet.

Awful to the tune of 3-9 for 12 yards and 3 picks. Until our SB loss, it was THE game i coukd never rewatch for how heartbreaking it was.

I dont think Knox ever forgave him for it.



In case you want to relive it or watch it for the first time.

Kreig is one of my favorite all time Hawks. But he didnt have half the tools and ability that Geno has. He was the posterchild for overachieving where Geno fails when he underachievs..
 

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Are we assuming he made the right decisions on every play that didn't result in an INT?
 

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It's tough to even have a regular football conversation when someone says that Geno has only made 3 bad decisions out of his 12 picks.
 

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