Don’t blame Geno

[seabowl]

The offensive line is not giving him much time at all to go through progressions and last night if you watch, he was throwing off his back leg quite a bitand looks scared now hold onto the ball. There aren’t many quarterbacks in the NFL that could perform at a high level behind this line.

 

[Ozzy]

I’m going to give him a little blame. He flat out needs to play better too and I do agree it’s not all his fault.

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

Between the pressures allowed, low yards per carry, interceptions, and penalties, you can just blame the offense as an entire unit if that's your kind of thing.

 

[Maelstrom787]

We can blame Geno a little bit tonight. It's alright. The first INT was bigtime on him and he had a few gross misses.

We need to also blame our inability to run, our defensive streakiness, and the absolute sloppiness of the offense (especially OL).

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Geno, as well as the entire team for sure can get blamed.

The entire coaching staff can get blamed.

The best player this game, Laviska Shenault.

Everyone else noticeably sucked!

Some even more so than others!

But yeah, Geno did suck as well!

 

[cymatica]

We can blame Geno a little bit tonight. It's alright. The first INT was bigtime on him and he had a few gross misses.

We need to also blame our inability to run, our defensive streakiness, and the absolute sloppiness of the offense (especially OL).

That first int was 100% on Metcalf. He was supposed to run an In route and he started running it lazy and drifted 10 yards upfield allowing the DB to cross right in front of him. You can see the look on Geno's face, Metcalf was definitely in the wrong spot.

The 2nd int had Bosa and another DL in his face right after the snap because Bradford and Forsyth both got completely fooled instantly off the snap.

Geno is trying to do too much because he knows his Oline is garbage, he has no run game, and his defense can't get off the field. No QB in the history of the league can play consistently well when surrounded by crap like this.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

You can last night in my opinion but not on the season as a whole. I saw some underthrown balls and some bad decision making last night.

 

[hawkfan68]

NY Jet Geno showed up last night...without an invitation.

 

[CouchLogic]

I blame coaches and coordinators. They're job is to have the team ready to go, and it's looking like they're not getting it done. You get out what you put in. As they say "$#!+ rolls down hill". Hard to blame individual players when they're being set-up to fail.

Players are going to need a way to be all-pros regardless of the name on the back of their jersey. Otherwise, they'll be collecting a lot more L's.

MM doesn't have the right pieces yet, so you can't get too upset at the outcomes. I know the new regime believes they were a few pieces away, but it's obvious they were handed the keys to a beat Accord, not a Lambo. Great sell job by the Seahawks front office, lol.

Still, 3-3 and showing signs of life. There's stuff to like, but that doesn't instill a lot of confidence for the rest of the season.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Those two picks lost the game. But he was under immense pressure all game. The next SF game will be different.

 

[hangumhi]

Inaccurate. Lack of leadership. Inability to score when we needed it the most. Terrible decision maker under pressure. Costly turnovers. Panicked in a clean pocket and checked down way too quickly, which means he's moving through his progressions too fast and missing guys like Walker for a TD. Forced the ball out of bounds several times when he wasn't under pressure. But ya, we can't blame Geno

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I wanted to believe in him. I'm just gonna leave it at that. Still fuming over yet another game where he had the ball in his hands with a chance to win.

Best I just retire from the Geno talk for awhile. I know what I saw.

 

[Maelstrom787]

That first int was 100% on Metcalf. He was supposed to run an In route and he started running it lazy and drifted 10 yards upfield allowing the DB to cross right in front of him. You can see the look on Geno's face, Metcalf was definitely in the wrong spot.

The 2nd int had Bosa and another DL in his face right after the snap because Bradford and Forsyth both got completely fooled instantly off the snap.

Geno is trying to do too much because he knows his Oline is garbage, he has no run game, and his defense can't get off the field. No QB in the history of the league can play consistently well when surrounded by crap like this.

Wasn't that the second INT? I may be misremembering.

Anyway, yeah, we agree that the INT you're talking about was more Metcalf.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Inaccurate. Lack of leadership. Inability to score when we needed it the most. Terrible decision maker under pressure. Costly turnovers. Panicked in a clean pocket and checked down way too quickly, which means he's moving through his progressions too fast and missing guys like Walker for a TD. Forced the ball out of bounds several times when he wasn't under pressure. But ya, we can't blame Geno

Yeah, I'm sure it was DK's fault that Geno massively UNDERTHREW him on what was a sure TD. How dare you get wide open and behind the defense.

 

[Seahawks Guy]

The offense is a product of everything from personnel to coaching to scheme. Geno can get it done, but he can't carry the offense like an elite QB. He struggles when things aren't going perfectly. To his credit he sometimes drops dimes in the face of pressure, but he also makes easily interceptable throws. So I think he's mid tier.

We have done okay as an offense so far this year. A little improvement on the line and a slightly better QB would do wonders for us. Grubb is working with what he has. He is also probably adjusting to the NFL.

I see a lot of discussions about Geno and the offense. They haven't been great, but I think the defense is largely the bigger issue at this point.

 

[PeruHawk]

Not sure how to link to a post in another thread, but here is what I posted in the "The 3 turnovers did us in" post.

I did a quick review of the game on NFL Game Pass in 40, and documented only the offensive plays I thought had a significant negative impact on drives. Of the 14 clearly negative plays, in my view 3 were clearly on Gino, and two Gino played a part, and the receiver (DK in both cases) also played a part. The other 9 Gino had nothing to do with.

Here they are by drive.

1st DRIVE
Interception - Ball well thrown for a tall reciever, but not JSN. Should not have thrown that ball.

2nd DRIVE
Fumbled kick return at 1 yard line. Started on 10

1st and 10 at 20 yard. Weak throw to DK double covered. Should have gone to another receiver if one was open.
Next play, 2nd and 10 to DK on sideline. Perfect pass, went through DK's hands. DK should have caught it.
3rd and 10. Throw to DK with 3 defenders around him. Don't we have other receivers? Why not target Lockett, who has been golden for 10 years???

DK is a good receiver, but he is not the superstar they wish he would be!!


4th DRIVE
Fumble on kickoff return.

5th DRIVE
1st and 10. 5 yard loss on run with K9.
2nd and 10. Holding for 10 yard penalty.
3rd and 3. Pass to JSN over his head. Gino off target. Could have been a first down. Punt.

6th DRIVE
From 50. Deep pass to DK, under pressure outside of pocket to the right. DK perhaps could have caught if he came back to the ball, instead of letting the ball come to him. Would have been around the 10 yard line. Announcers talked about this. a
1st and goal from the 3. Locket open in the end zone. Gino misses high. Had good protection.
Scored a field goal. 1st half ends.

7th DRIVE
Touchdown on kickoff!!!!

8th DRIVE
Poor execution every play. No obvious errors.

9th DRIVE
1st and 10 from 23. Holding
1st and 18 from 13. Interception. This is the pass to DK where announcers said he faded deep, when he should have kept going across the field. Not sure who's fault this is, but an obvious error.

10th DRIVE
3rd and 5 from 45. DK touchdown called back due to Illegal Shift penalty on K9. 4:40 4rth quarter.
Lockett caught a touchdown with 1:44 left in game

 

[cymatica]

Wasn't that the second INT? I may be misremembering.

Anyway, yeah, we agree that the INT you're talking about was more Metcalf.

I don't remember either it might be the 2nd.

The other one is probably half Geno half Bradford and Forsythe. They both got completely fooled n schooled immediately after the snap. It literally looked like there wasn't even a RG and RT it was so bad. I guess you could blame Geno for throwing the ball instead of taking the sack.

 

[warden]

20 carries for 52 yards. That is a crappy run game.

The game before we rushed the ball 5 times

Yeah it is all Geno’s fault says no informed fan

 

[Torc]

Geno, as well as the entire team for sure can get blamed.

The entire coaching staff can get blamed.

The best player this game, Laviska Shenault.

Everyone else noticeably sucked!

Some even more so than others!

But yeah, Geno did suck as well!

Best player, is the guy who not only scored a TD on a return but also fumbled a return away?

A lot of players had good and bad moments. That inconsistency is what is killing us.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Yeah, I'm sure it was DK's fault that Geno massively UNDERTHREW him on what was a sure TD. How dare you get wide open and behind the defense.

It wasn't optimal, but it isn't a primary gripe of mine given that it was a pass that would've been over 50 air yards, and the slow-up required of DK really wasn't "massive."