Jalen Carter

[Sgt. Largent]

Well, we had to deal with his drug suspension.

Idk what we're debating.

We've taken immaturity and character risks on players before if their talent warrants it.

So to say that won't happen with Carter is categorically false. It can, and if he's available at 5 and we pick? Probably will.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Jalen Carter: Off-field incident from January will affect his draft status "a little bit"

A new Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel profile of agent Drew Rosenhaus focuses in part on his representation of Georgia defensive tackle Jalen Carter.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[HawksNation]

According to Deon Sanders, you want your D Lineman to have issues

Thoughts?

 

[NoGain]

I was just listening to Chris Simms on PFT and he's 100% behind Jalen Carter as a top pick, still thinking he might be the best player in the draft. So there's that.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

I was just listening to Chris Simms on PFT and he's 100% behind Jalen Carter as a top pick, still thinking he might be the best player in the draft. So there's that.

I tend to agree.

If I had to make a prediction today, it would be Seattle drafting Carter.

And this is not me saying who I want myself as I have no issues trading down, but, I’m thinking Seattle will draft Carter.

A very Pete Carroll type move, instant Seattle media attention.

Carroll is not afraid to make moves that gets the NFL world talking.

And I can totally see Carter being the pick.

 

[GemCity]

Jalen left a Strip Club at 02:30AM, with a friend that he had to have known was drunk, that was illegally driving UGA's Ford Expedition, with 3 passengers, and that she'd had multiple speeding tickets, which UGA staff "mitigated," per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

He then proceeded to race, putting his 707HP Trackhawk up against UGA's Ford Expedition, doing 105MPH in a RESIDENTIAL area, repeatedly driving in to oncoming traffic.

Henry Ruggs the 2nd. Do you want your team and your front office to be responsible for drafting that guy? Who cares if he busts. I'm worried about the innocent people he'll run over with his 707 Horses. Or maybe he'll just instigate a race then plead innocent when someone else gets killed.

Jalen has a history of speeding, and the football players got special treatment. You can see it in the video of him getting pulled over, the police officer said he pulled over several football players that day, and knew them all by name, and he asked them to "slow down."

And why Jalen had his cell phone in his lap is beyond me. A $90,000 Jeep Trackhawk has Bluetooth, and you can throw your phone in the glove box and still have full access to it without letting go of the steering wheel. The only thing you can't do with the phone put away, is text while driving.

I've got a 2019 Ford Ranger, and I just hit a button on my steering wheel to answer or hang up, or to change songs on my phone via Bluetooth. Safe and simple. Much simpler than actually handling the phone.

No, this is NOT a guy you draft at #5, not even in the 1st round. I wouldn't touch him.

And to think that Mike Salk compares himself racing his buddy on the way to school with that incident. Was his buddy drunk driving with passengers in a residential area doing 105 and driving in to oncoming traffic?

I did a lot of racing in my day, but we raced on old abandoned, or little used roads because we didn't want to get caught. Apparently Georgia football players don't have any such worries.

I didn’t know about the previous ticket. People have been saying how we all do dumb shit when we’re young but, if I would’ve got a $1K speeding ticket at that age, I would’ve been scared shitless. Not Carter though.

Folks also bring up other players that had issues and overcame them. But, for every one that beat the odds, there’s 10 that didn’t.

If PC and JS draft him, so be it. Gotta trust they’ve done their research.

But if I were picking based off what I know, I’m not touching him. That’s not saying he can’t or won’t have a great career but there’s just too much risk for that 5th spot.

Everyone handles things differently but, there are players whose children passed away…and they showed up for a game(s).

I have a feeling this dude was more worried about the impact on his career than his “friends” who passed but wasn’t disciplined enough to do the things to make him continue to stand out. Combine…nothing. Pro Day - out of shape.

He may have a great career. He’s certainly capable. But his mentality is….scary.

 

[Germanhawk7]

Man i dont want to switch with PC and JS.
#5 Pick is great but its also the first risky pick.
Young, Stroud and probably Anderson + Wilson will be gone.
There are Richardson Boom or Bust, Carter Boom or Bust or other player like Witherspoon who is for me not worth a #5 pick.

 

[CactusJack]

 

[WarHawks]

If we do pick Carter, and he works out, great. Good for us. Meanwhile, we've got a qb who many, including myself, don't think is the long term answer, and we would have missed our opportunity to snatch a qbotf up, unless Pete and John think Hooker or some other qb is the long term answer. There's an opportunity cost with everything, and passing on a qb, the best of whom are [usually] only available at the top of a draft, vs db's, who are there throughout the draft, just seems problematic for us long term. We're going to be picking even later in '24, so to my little pea brain, it just seems like it's now or never. Just trying to see the forest for the trees.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Carter has got to be for Seattle and us here at dot net, the most controversial prospect, the Seahawks are possibly in the running to draft.

Every draft, this board, usually is pretty active yet “unruffled” if that is the best describing word, at certain players board posters here bring up as a player they want Seattle to draft.

With Carter, I would view dot net as almost 50/50 with who they want with the 5th overall pick.

It’s almost like extremes.

Yes, they want him and not hesitating no matter his background.

No, stay faaaaar away from this guy.

These two thoughts are almost entirely the majority of opinions here on dot net.

I think that’s a good thing cause it makes this draft all the more critical.

It’s almost like a divided dot net and one side will be elated and the other side will be angry for a long time.

And we have not yet taken into consideration how he will play.

Posters here will be either thrilled or upset immediately and this upcoming season will be one of the more memorable starts to the season.

Get your popcorn ready for next Thursday!

Dot net will blow up no matter what happens at pick 5!

Cheers to the draft!

 

[CactusJack]

If we do pick Carter, and he works out, great. Good for us. Meanwhile, we've got a qb who many, including myself, don't think is the long term answer, and we would have missed our opportunity to snatch a qbotf up, unless Pete and John think Hooker or some other qb is the long term answer. There's an opportunity cost with everything, and passing on a qb, the best of whom are [usually] only available at the top of a draft, vs db's, who are there throughout the draft, just seems problematic for us long term. We're going to be picking even later in '24, so to my little pea brain, it just seems like it's now or never. Just trying to see the forest for the trees.

It's possible they don't rate these QB's in this class all that highly. Why take one if you think Levis' ceiling is Carson Wentz or Sam Darnold? Why force it? That's how teams make mistakes. i.e. SF trading up for Trey Lance.

There was a report that they "loved" Bryce Young. Also had interest in trading up for him. But if he's the only guy that you like. It makes no sense to draft one of the other three.

 

[WarHawks]

It's possible they don't rate these QB's in this class all that highly. Why take one if you think Levis' ceiling is Carson Wentz or Sam Darnold? Why force it? That's how teams make mistakes. i.e. SF trading up for Trey Lance.

There was a report that they "loved" Bryce Young. Also had interest in trading up for him. But if he's the only guy that you like. It makes no sense to draft one of the other three.

Absolutely. That could definitely be the case. In Pete and John I trust.

 

[Maelstrom787]

If we do pick Carter, and he works out, great. Good for us. Meanwhile, we've got a qb who many, including myself, don't think is the long term answer, and we would have missed our opportunity to snatch a qbotf up, unless Pete and John think Hooker or some other qb is the long term answer. There's an opportunity cost with everything, and passing on a qb, the best of whom are [usually] only available at the top of a draft, vs db's, who are there throughout the draft, just seems problematic for us long term. We're going to be picking even later in '24, so to my little pea brain, it just seems like it's now or never. Just trying to see the forest for the trees.

It's never "now or never" with odds of about 25% of landing a real franchise guy with a top 5 QB pick, there's no way in hell they should force a pick on a guy they're not fully sold on just because he's a quarterback.

That's how you end up with a Zach Wilson and a ruined franchise.

No reason to force this. Take the player you think is good, not a quarterback because you feel like you have to.

 

[BlueTalon]

And we have not yet taken into consideration how he will play.

That's the only reason the pro-Carter people want him (speaking for myself). The dude's a wrecking ball.

 

[Chukarhawk]

I'm pretty sure were taking this guy at 5.

 

[bileever]

No one is a sure bet. Corey Davis was a 5th pick in 2017. If we blow it on #5 but hit on #20 and #37, I'll be happy.

 

[bileever]

Someone else made the point about the 49ers having had so many high draft picks recently and screwing it up--Solomon Thomas (#3, 2017), Trey Lance (#3, 2021), Javon Kinlaw (#14 2020)--they still were able to build a pretty good roster. Of course, they had so many top ten picks in the last ten years, including Nick Bosa (#2, 2019), Mike McGlinchey (#9, 2018), DeForest Buckner (#7, 2016). Seriously, Shanahan and Lynch shouldn't be allowed any more top ten picks. We're excited about having one top ten pick, they've had a bunch of them.

I'm just saying that #5 is no guaranty of a good player, even in a good draft year.

 

[HawksNation]

It's never "now or never" with odds of about 25% of landing a real franchise guy with a top 5 QB pick, there's no way in hell they should force a pick on a guy they're not fully sold on just because he's a quarterback.

That's how you end up with a Zach Wilson and a ruined franchise.

No reason to force this. Take the player you think is good, not a quarterback because you feel like you have to.

Just look at the 2022 redraft and you will see how many 1st round players didn’t perform up to expectations.
Granted it’s only been 1 season, nobody is a sure shot.

 

[CPHawk]

Take him and he ends up like McDowell, backlash will be severe (“told you so”).

Pass on him and he ends up being AD 2.0, then you were smart and based it off what he can bring to the field.

According to Deon Sanders, you want your D Lineman to have issues

Thoughts?

ive said it before but listen to any number of Derek Wolfe interviews on pod casts, and you will probably come to the same conclusion. He played most games micro dosing, and had a very fd up childhood. He also pointed out most DL come from messed up lives. Our own John Randle had a pretty bad childhood, at least by most standards in the US. And the guy played every game like his life depended on it

 

[WarHawks]

It's never "now or never" with odds of about 25% of landing a real franchise guy with a top 5 QB pick, there's no way in hell they should force a pick on a guy they're not fully sold on just because he's a quarterback.

That's how you end up with a Zach Wilson and a ruined franchise.

No reason to force this. Take the player you think is good, not a quarterback because you feel like you have to.

Yes of course. I wasn't implying they needed to force it. The hit rate with top qb's is only in the 20's, but that's the same with most top pics. But if they see their guy there, I say get him. But if they aren't sold, then don't.