Holes in Drew Lock's game?

[toffee]

Off season and bored, let's pick on Lock's skill? Bronco gave up on Drew Lock after drafting him in 2nd round, he hasn't been good and failed to secure his role as starter. What are the holes in his game? Could they be coach out or game plan around? He is tall dude with strong arm and good speed, but does have small hands 9".

 

[AROS]

I feel quite strongly that JS/PC view Lock as someone with all the intangibles that could work and work well within this system. A change of pace in scenery, the right coaching, some stability, who knows? Not saying he is our franchise QB, but at the very least he could be a more-than serviceable stop gap until we do find our next generational QB.

 

[Fade]

Harold Miner had a bald head and could dunk like Jordan earning the nickname "Baby Jordan."

There is more to the game than just physical tools.

Drew Lock has excellent physical tools like Harold Miner.

When Drew Lock is pressured, he breaks down mechanically and throws the ball to the other team. The #1 thing he needs to fix.

 

[toffee]

Basing on how he played in Denver, ball security was poor. Lock's TD/INT wasn't good, he has a bit of fumble issues too, small hands may be? PeteBall play great emphasis on ball security, got to wonder how Lock will do under PeteBall.

 

[toffee]

Harold Miner had a bald head and could dunk like Jordan earning the nickname "Baby Jordan."

There is more to the game than just physical tools.

Drew Lock has excellent physical tools like Harold Miner.

When Drew Lock is pressured, he breaks down mechanically and throws the ball to the other team. The #1 thing he needs to fix.

Sounded like 3 steps would be his best friend?? 3 steps and run for his life may be ?

 

[sdog1981]

His draft profile has carried over to his NFL play too.

"Inconsistent mechanics lead to poorly thrown balls."

"Doesn't square his shoulders to the target, doesn't get his hips or feet around and relies solely on his arm strength to power the throw, which leads to scattershot accuracy."

"Needs to improve decision-making"

"Trusts his arm too much"

"Will throw into coverage that he shouldn't"

 

[toffee]

His draft profile has carried over to his NFL play too.

"Inconsistent mechanics lead to poorly thrown balls."

"Doesn't square his shoulders to the target, doesn't get his hips or feet around and relies solely on his arm strength to power the throw, which leads to scattershot accuracy."

"Needs to improve decision-making"

"Trusts his arm too much"

"Will throw into coverage that he shouldn't"

sounded like stuffs that would be hard to change at this stage of his career.

 

[chris98251]

Sounds like he needs a off season QB coach camp to work on those skills, also can't use Denver as a measuring stick for QB success, they have not groomed anyone since Elway and even he took a long time and two coaches to get right, funny Elway had a lot of the traits Lock does and believed in his arm too much also till it was coached out of him and he learned about touch as well as better decisions. Bastard still found ways to win and we hated him, but he had awesome weapons as well.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Five years ago you could make the argument that a QB that did not thrive elsewhere, could do somewhere else. But it clearly does not work now.

Drew Brees is an exception, and even then Drew flashed damned well in SD.

But who was crappy one place and flourished elsewhere recently?

Is the best possible example Winston? And is that even good?

For a while people though maybe Sam Darnold could be good outside of the Jets, but it turns out that he sucks.

Locke isn't going to get better just like Geno wasn't going to. If you don't stand out in 2 years of QB play, you aren't a keeper.

 

[nanomoz]

Ya, he makes Spazzlebeck look like Steve McNair when he's under pressure. Go watch game highlights of some of his starts. It's pretty apparent.

If you're a newer fan, and you don't know what I mean: Lock isn't good when under any semblance of pressure. He gets jittery. Throws off of his back foot and stuff.

A really good run game would help him a ton. Without a strong play-action game it's a good idea to expect Charlie Whitehurst 2.0.

 

[Cyrus12]

I still think he was a throw in on that deal. Career back up at best. Hes nothing more than a bridge qb for this team.

 

[FrodosFinger]

I just feel like he wasn't given a fair shake in Denver. Instability at OC, bad weapons except for Fant. Poor offensive scheme in Denver for a while now. Lock can and will hit the open receivers he just needs Shane to work with him

 

[keasley45]

His draft profile has carried over to his NFL play too.

"Inconsistent mechanics lead to poorly thrown balls."

"Doesn't square his shoulders to the target, doesn't get his hips or feet around and relies solely on his arm strength to power the throw, which leads to scattershot accuracy."

"Needs to improve decision-making"

"Trusts his arm too much"

"Will throw into coverage that he shouldn't"

Sounds like Brett Favre in Atlanta

 

[Appyhawk]

The holes in Lock's game start at the top. As in on top of his shoulders. That is no easy fix.

 

[toffee]

Sounds like he needs a off season QB coach camp to work on those skills, also can't use Denver as a measuring stick for QB success, they have not groomed anyone since Elway and even he took a long time and two coaches to get right, funny Elway had a lot of the traits Lock does and believed in his arm too much also till it was coached out of him and he learned about touch as well as better decisions. Bastard still found ways to win and we hated him, but he had awesome weapons as well.

Not like Lock hasn't received QB coaching?

Sounds like Brett Favre in Atlanta

You think Lock's upside reminiscent Favre?

 

[JPatera76]

Lol what a miserable group of bastards lol. Guess there’s not enough “in what way does drew lock suck” threads to keep smacking a kid down and surprise surprise it’s most the same people commenting about how what ways he sucks.. Lol Jesus if y’all have zero faith in the kid great. But y’all don’t gotta keep shitting on him repeatedly. At this point these forums sound just absolute miserable and depressed with a splash of “no hope no faith” hahaha

 

[themunn]

Five years ago you could make the argument that a QB that did not thrive elsewhere, could do somewhere else. But it clearly does not work now.

Drew Brees is an exception, and even then Drew flashed damned well in SD.

But who was crappy one place and flourished elsewhere recently?

Is the best possible example Winston? And is that even good?

For a while people though maybe Sam Darnold could be good outside of the Jets, but it turns out that he sucks.

Locke isn't going to get better just like Geno wasn't going to. If you don't stand out in 2 years of QB play, you aren't a keeper.

Alex Smith probably the best example I can think of.

He was poor pre Harbaugh, but then took a step up, and then again with KC.

He was 1st overall pick though so talent clearly always there

 

[nwHawk]

Consider this, most top 10 first round picks go to crappy teams. Yes Drew Lock went in the second round, but he did go to a crap team that needed a QB. He walked into a bad situation. Name me one great QB that started out on a team that was terrible from ownership to coaching and turned around the team? Do the coaching shuffle a few times and tell me how that impacts a players development.

Drew, like majority of players, need to be in a system that fits him. I think this system should be great for him. If I was his coach I’d have him work on studying how to anticipate breaks and deliver the ball on time. He gets himself in trouble by waiting too long to hit a route. If it improves his timing he will succeed here. No player is perfect.

 

[themunn]

Consider this, most top 10 first round picks go to crappy teams. Yes Drew Lock went in the second round, but he did go to a crap team that needed a QB. He walked into a bad situation. Name me one great QB that started out on a team that was terrible from ownership to coaching and turned around the team? Do the coaching shuffle a few times and tell me how that impacts a players development.

Joe Burrow!

Now maybe Zac Taylor is a good coach, but he DID go 2-14 in his first season...

 

[Rosco]

Five years ago you could make the argument that a QB that did not thrive elsewhere, could do somewhere else. But it clearly does not work now.

Drew Brees is an exception, and even then Drew flashed damned well in SD.

But who was crappy one place and flourished elsewhere recently?

Is the best possible example Winston? And is that even good?

For a while people though maybe Sam Darnold could be good outside of the Jets, but it turns out that he sucks.

Locke isn't going to get better just like Geno wasn't going to. If you don't stand out in 2 years of QB play, you aren't a keeper.

He doesn’t have 2 years of play. He did stand out his rookie year with a 4-1 record & 7 TDs to only 3 ints. Playing in a WCO that Seattle runs.