Geno fined by NFL

[scutterhawk]

Widescreen shot. He grab him from his arm and let go too. Could have been a lot worse.

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25 Says bullshit on him going "Up Field"....Face it Caido, you are WRONG.
Anyone else notice how it's mostly the folks here who DISLIKE/DISTRUST Geno who are giving Isaiah Simmons the thumbs up on that chickensh*t play?

 

[sutz]

25 Says bullshit on him going "Up Field"....Face it Caido, you are WRONG.
Anyone else notice how it's mostly the folks here who DISLIKE/DISTRUST Geno who are giving Isaiah Simmons the thumbs up on that chickensh*t play?

I love Geno and I think you are WAAAAAYYYYYY over reacting.

 

[scutterhawk]

I love Geno and I think you are WAAAAAYYYYYY over reacting.

Okay, show me in that pic where #25 was so positioned that Geno had a chance in hell of getting past him and all the while being corralled & wrapped up by Isiaha Simmons doing a Bull-Rush "Hip Drop (DIRTY) Tackle".

 

[Torc]

What is your definition of "dirty"? The tackle was within the rules. I happen to agree with you, I've seen too many players injured on this type of tackle. But until it is banned, it isn't cheating.

Bobby Wagner and Richard Sherman don't think it should be banned.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/04/nfl-hip-drop-tackle-news-reaction-richard-sherman-defensive-players

The NFLPA doesn't think it should be banned.

League members of the NFL Competition Committee have indicated it is considering instituting a new playing rule prohibiting a tackling technique it described as the “hip-drop tackle.” Despite this intent, the NFL also acknowledged that they were having a difficult time defining a “hip-drop tackle.”

While the players have consistently advocated for health and safety advancements, any prohibition on the “hip-drop tackle” technique is unfair to players and unrealistic to implement. It places defensive players in an impossible position by creating indecision in the mind of any tackling player, puts officials in an unreasonable situation that will result in inconsistent calls on the field, and confuses our fans.

We call on the NFL to reconsider implementing a rule prohibiting the “hip drop tackle.”

If you can't even get the players to agree it is unsafe, it's going to be a hard sell to get the league to ban it.

 

[FattyKnuckle]

What is your definition of "dirty"? The tackle was within the rules. I happen to agree with you, I've seen too many players injured on this type of tackle. But until it is banned, it isn't cheating.

Bobby Wagner and Richard Sherman don't think it should be banned.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/04/nfl-hip-drop-tackle-news-reaction-richard-sherman-defensive-players

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The NFLPA doesn't think it should be banned.



If you can't even get the players to agree it is unsafe, it's going to be a hard sell to get the league to ban it.

That’s all well and good but have any of them consulted Scutter about this? Who knows more than him?!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

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[scutterhawk]

That’s all well and good but have any of them consulted Scutter about this? Who knows more than him?!

Most certainly not you.
To add, I never said that it was "Cheating", or an "ILLEGAL PLAY", but there's no doubt that it IS a "DIRTY PLAY".

 

[jammerhawk]

What a BS money grab by the league.

Smith was PO'd after being hit questionably out of bounds and was upset the same thing just happened to Lockett w/o the officials doing anything.

These fines are something the players need to rebel over or negotiate out pf the next CBA.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

What is your definition of "dirty"? The tackle was within the rules. I happen to agree with you, I've seen too many players injured on this type of tackle. But until it is banned, it isn't cheating.

Bobby Wagner and Richard Sherman don't think it should be banned.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/04/nfl-hip-drop-tackle-news-reaction-richard-sherman-defensive-players

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The NFLPA doesn't think it should be banned.



If you can't even get the players to agree it is unsafe, it's going to be a hard sell to get the league to ban it.

Well - not to be a homer - but if BWagz is questioning it - well - I gotta go with team Bobby.....

Even contrary to my own thoughts on the play.

 

[sutz]

Okay, show me in that pic where #25 was so positioned that Geno had a chance in hell of getting past him and all the while being corralled & wrapped up by Isiaha Simmons doing a Bull-Rush "Hip Drop (DIRTY) Tackle".

No.

Maybe we should just ban tackling from behind.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The whole NO DOUBT part of it is wrong. There absolutely is doubt, and I can see both sides of this argument. I can also see why Geno got mad; it was justified in the moment.

 

[FattyKnuckle]

What a BS money grab by the league.

Smith was PO'd after being hit questionably out of bounds and was upset the same thing just happened to Lockett w/o the officials doing anything.

These fines are something the players need to rebel over or negotiate out pf the next CBA.

They're not going to get anywhere with a rebellion. Unsportsmanlike flags for jaw jacking with the sideline has nothing whatsoever to do with actually playing football. They have no argument against it, especially in this case. It wasn't a heat of the moment reaction, it was close to 40 minutes of real time after the play.

 

[FattyKnuckle]

Most certainly not you.
To add, I never said that it was "Cheating", or an "ILLEGAL PLAY", but there's no doubt that it IS a "DIRTY PLAY".

Well, a couple of Hall of Fame players disagree with you. I know who I'll believe more.

 

[chris98251]

Well a 185 CB trying to bring down a 225 or bigger player has to use their weight and grab what they can. It is really hard to try and regulate something that is a leverage issue. Dragging them down from behind every game in some way.

 

[scutterhawk]

No.

Maybe we should just ban tackling from behind.

That's not the point at all.
So I guess the "Dirtiness" of that kind of play will only be addressed when someone gets carted off the field one last time, with a Career ending injury before some of y'all get where I'm coming from ?
Look, There's a LOT of discussion about Keeping the head up while tackling so's to PREVENT injuries.
Bulldogging Tackles are fine for the Tackler, not so good for the ones getting rolled up on.
Tackling TECHNIQUE is that asking for too much????
Actually, now that we're on the subject, what ever happened with Pete's propensity for the SAFE & correct tackling that the rest of the League was supposedly adopting??

 

[scutterhawk]

Well, a couple of Hall of Fame players disagree with you. I know who I'll believe more.

And SCREW the injuries, eh?

 

[FattyKnuckle]

And SCREW the injuries, eh?

Ask them.

END OF DISCUSSION… still talking about it

 

[scutterhawk]

Ask them.

END OF DISCUSSION… still talking about it

So you're no longer your own man?.. okay LOLOL

 

[SoulfishHawk]

 

[scutterhawk]

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I know, right?