Geno Isn't the Guy. Sad to Say (Main)

[Ozzy]

Considering what it took to move from 12 to 3, I don't think anyone would've taken our calls. The top 2 were set on QBs, and Indy probably was too. It would've taken some crazy maneuvering and my guess is that it would've been flatly rebuffed unfortunately.

Would've just needed Denver to be a smidge worse.

I think you're right but we could've taken Levis. Still not sure he's the answer either but he's getting a lot of rave reviews from film guys in both of his games. Move up one spot for Richardson? Who knows? Bryce and CJ weren't realistic though for sure.

I guess we will see. I still think Wilson lovers want to see Geno fail so that they can blame Pete and Pete lovers want to see Geno succeed because they can do the same and dunk on Russ and it leads to some weird takes that people talk themselves into. Hell I might be a little guilty of that too in some ways. I think Pete/John maybe wanted Geno to succeed to prove a similar point on some levels. Who knows. Regardless we need Geno to play better and he's shown he's capable so heres to hoping he goes out and plays the second half of the year like he did the first half last year

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I want to be wrong about Geno, but it's becoming more and more obvious he's just a gap guy. Unfortunately, he's what we have so we need him to sack up and get rollin' here. He looks like a deer in the headlights, at least right now.
Why would someone want Geno to fail? I was a huge Russ fan, WAS, but no damn way in hell would I ever want Geno to fail. Winning is what I care about. Geno is looking bad on his own, behind a patchwork O Line. I just want to see GOOD Geno. Because if we don't, this season is going to take a big dump......and very soon.

 

[themunn]

For the record, I thought Geno should of got no more than 10 million a year, but good for Geno. Smith is doing a good job, but not worth the contract. The Seahawks don't have all the pieces together yet, so let Geno do his thing.

I think they also over paid DK.

I posted in one the draft threads, that I would of took Jalen Carter and Will Levi in the first round. Those would of been better options, and had a QB competition with Lock and Levi.

If they would of drafted Levi, Geno might of signed for a 5-7 million contract in the summer, if no real interest came from other teams. If not, another team would of been on the hook for 25 million for Geno Smith's services, which I would of been o.k. with.

The bottom line is the Seahawks need to get smarter with the big contracts. Jamal Adams, DK Metcalf, and Geno Smith are all over paid. Over paying players leads to talent issues on the team.

You're living in a fantasy world if you think we can get a veteran starting QB signed for $10m a year. That's what a first-round draft pick rookie contract makes. Jordan Love is getting paid $13.5m this year! There are 17 QBs getting paid a higher AVG per year than Geno. Of those below, only one starting QB on a multi-year deal that isn't on their rookie contract is getting paid less than him - Jimmy G, on 24.25m per year vs Geno's 25.

QBs cost money - or draft picks. If you want a top guy you need a top 5 pick - and even then that doesn't always get you there. A week ago everyone was bemoaning that we didn't take Levis. Yet here we are 1 week later and his game against the Steelers wasn't much better than Geno's against a vastly superior team.

 

[RiverDog]

Worst game in a very very long time. Got absolutely dominated and pushed around. Entire team loss. Not just Geno, the entire team looked unprepared, outmatches and outcoached.

On to Sunday, they better damn well come out pi**ed off, because they have a Gauntlet coming up.

I agree, the entire team has to accept some blame for this ass kicking. But I put more blame on the offense as their ineptness has forced the defense to be on the field more. Yesterday, we lost the time of possession battle by a 2:1 margin. When the Ravens are going on 12-13 play scoring drives while our offense is going 3-and-out, it tends to wear down our defense.

We had just 28 yards rushing on 15 attempts, or less than 2 yards a carry. That puts Geno in some very predictable 3rd downs. It's pretty hard to fly like an eagle when you're flocking with turkeys.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

ouch

 

[scutterhawk]

43 to 8 showed what a great Defense could do to a future HOF Peyton Manning, and hell, he'd just had one of his most prolific seasons in his career, he outright dominated in every game in 2013, but he'd yet to come up against a Defense the likes of the Seahawks.
Some of y'all need to take a 'Real Pill', The PATCHWORK, BEAT UP Seahawks Offensive line IS NOT INEPT, THE TRUTH?? the Ravens Defense AND Offense ARE THAT GOOD folks.

 

[Dallashawksfan]

Nobody wants Geno to fail

But Geno is failing when the competition steps up. It’s ok if you want to be mediocre. If you want to win against top team, Geno hasn’t shown anything that he is capable. He lacks brain AND courage.

 

[scutterhawk]

Can't run the ball when they've loaded the box.

Opponents have figured out, if you load the box on 1st and 2nd down--and dare Geno to beat them, he can't do it.

This strategy is going to be seen every week going forward. There is a blueprint.

Defense gassed out due to being on the field all game.

The centerpiece of their problems is Geno Smith.

Anyone obsolving blame from Geno Smith in this game and the last 4 games is a real piece of work.

And >ANYONE< putting the ENTIRE BLAME on Geno Smith for THIS LOSS "IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK" LOSER.

 

[scutterhawk]

Nobody wants Geno to fail

But Geno is failing when the competition steps up. It’s ok if you want to be mediocre. If you want to win against top team, Geno hasn’t shown anything that he is capable. He lacks brain AND courage.

Again, 43 to 8 shows what a World Class Defense can do to an even GREAT Quarterback like Peyton Manning...Should he maybe have "Stepped up" even more?

 

[Jac]

I think that quarterback changes need to be very deliberate and thought out. Although it may seem like a good option to us as fans, it's a significant move that has far-reaching consequences.

They're especially hard to justify for winning teams that are in the playoff hunt.

I think that good organizations usually do it the right way, which is riding it out and giving the next guy an offseason to settle into the role.

As lackluster as Geno has been, he wasn't exactly the only problem. The offensive line and running game were just as, if not more, exposed. Lock isn't a panacea for those ills.

Yeah, realistically this is true. The season is halfway over, and it is what it is at the QB position at this point.

 

[Jac]

Considering what it took to move from 12 to 3, I don't think anyone would've taken our calls. The top 2 were set on QBs, and Indy probably was too. It would've taken some crazy maneuvering and my guess is that it would've been flatly rebuffed unfortunately.

Would've just needed Denver to be a smidge worse.

Indy said they would have taken Richardson at #1 if that was their pick, and I kinda believe them. There was no trade available to get one of the top three. They need to scout hard and be prepared to use 2025 draft capital to move up next year if there is a viable option within reach.

 

[GemCity]

I want to be wrong about Geno, but it's becoming more and more obvious he's just a gap guy. Unfortunately, he's what we have so we need him to sack up and get rollin' here. He looks like a deer in the headlights, at least right now.
Why would someone want Geno to fail? I was a huge Russ fan, WAS, but no damn way in hell would I ever want Geno to fail. Winning is what I care about. Geno is looking bad on his own, behind a patchwork O Line. I just want to see GOOD Geno. Because if we don't, this season is going to take a big dump......and very soon.

This is how I feel. Of course, I believe that Russ is a turd and love it when he fails. Petty but, it’s true.

As for Geno, his comeback story warms the heart but I believe he hit his ceiling last year. If that guy comes back, we’re in great shape.

Never going to hate on our QB but….its not looking good.

 

[Ozzy]

Indy said they would have taken Richardson at #1 if that was their pick, and I kinda believe them. There was no trade available to get one of the top three. They need to scout hard and be prepared to use 2025 draft capital to move up next year if there is a viable option within reach.

Where did Levis go though? I admit I've always been high on him so I'm biased but he's looked really good in his first two starts.

 

[scutterhawk]

Agreed..entire team loss but the end game falls on the QB who should make adjustments if the walls are caving in...Geno made no such adjustments...he's one dimensional when the pressure is on. Geno needs to either get out from the pocket or get the ball out faster. I've seen more than once somebody completely open and Geno didn't see the open player and the play either fizzles or he makes some kind of mistake. This is why the fans have become frustrated with Geno. Personally I think the reason he did so well the first half of last season is be no one had much to go on and with so many new weapons. Now Geno is figured out and what seemed like a promising season is going to be a season of frustration from this point on..IMHO

How many of Geno's passes got batted down by the Ravens smothering, League Leading Defense?
And LOL at being able to "Adjust" playing behind that O-Line, AND TOO, Geno would need to have a couple others BESIDES Lockett & DK to join him in that venture.
I mean get the ball out QUICKER sounds cool & all, BUT, "Get The Ball Out Quicker" ....to WHO?
Realistically? there's not enough respect (in fact it's being ignored) given to that RAVENS 'MAULING' DEFENSE, Fact is, NOBODY was going to beat the Ravens in their house Yesterday, N-O-B-O-D-Y

 

[Jac]

Where did Levis go though? I admit I've always been high on him so I'm biased but he's looked really good in his first two starts.

Believe me, I wanted them to pull the trigger on him. When he slipped into the second round, he became a bigtime upside pick.

 

[Dallashawksfan]

Again, 43 to 8 shows what a World Class Defense can do to an even GREAT Quarterback like Peyton Manning...Should he maybe have "Stepped up" even more?

He looked like a fool against the Ram also. He didn’t have ONE good drive.

So you are saying because they are good , he gets a pass?

That’s what I am saying also. Against good teams, he is useless

 

[pittpnthrs]

My worry is (and was) that the time to get the QB position right was last draft when you had the capital to do so. Could they have moved up a spot for Richardson? a couple of spots for CJ? Maybe just take Levis?

I've been crticial of Geno ever since he took the job but even I think he's capable of playing much better than he is. The line needs to get healthy and sorted and that would help a ton.

Yes. This team is going to be in QB limbo for sometime now. As much as I do like the players the team drafted last season, a QB should have been waiting in the wings already. Pete isnt concerned as he'll be done in a couple years, but dang. Lock is worse than Geno so relying on him is silly.

 

[Rosco]

Yes. This team is going to be in QB limbo for sometime now. As much as I do like the players the team drafted last season, a QB should have been waiting in the wings already. Pete isnt concerned as he'll be done in a couple years, but dang. Lock is worse than Geno so relying on him is silly.

How would you know Lock is worse?

 

[themunn]

All I wanna add is that the Bucs lost 3-38 AT HOME to the Saints in 2020, with Brady throwing 3 ints to 0 TDs and the team rushing for just 8 total yards.

Still won the Superbowl that year.

Geno isn't Tom Brady, but even the GOAT can have an off day.

 

[RolandDeschain]

As lackluster as Geno has been, he wasn't exactly the only problem. The offensive line and running game were just as, if not more, exposed. Lock isn't a panacea for those ills.

When the opposing defense doesn't have to respect the quarterback, they can cheat against the run game and O-line in general. You're not assigning enough blame to Geno for the run game and O-line woes we saw.