Why Milroe was a GREAT pick!!

[toffee]

Matt Flynn= Sam Darnold
Russell Wilson= Jalen Milroe

who's the second coming Golden Tate?

 

[cymatica]

Milroe's Place!

 

[SNDavidson]

would have been Luther Burden but alas, I'm pumped and jacked for what this staff is going to do

 

[seabowl]

who's the second coming Golden Tate?

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

I didn’t mock Milroe at any point to the Seahawks, choosing several QBs over him early in the process. However, at the end even with usually ending up with at least12 picks I was hardly choosing QBs at all. Milroe was an afterthought in the simulator I was using, he went from late first, then mid to late 2nd and I wasn’t using those picks on this dude.

But I like the pick in the sense they traded Geno for a Milroe lottery ticket but only after making a lateral move to replace Geno with a similar talent in Sam Darnold.

I love the pick not for the player Milroe is now but for the vision of what he can become in the function of the offensive vision they wish to create.

Love the pick because they avoided both QB pitfalls of having to cater and nurture and give the franchise over to a top 10, top 20 pick, you know ready or not to be the franchise guy, and they also avoided taking a QB in that 20-40 range where you’re losing out on talented players for a shot in the dark even more erratic than the 1st round.

Love the pick because I think Geno Smith extension or not, without 92 or not, Milroe was a guy they had mapped out a conclusive direction for. Picking him at 92 wasn’t a wasted pick, Seahawks had their choice to get any QB in this draft that wasn’t Ward. At 92, only 3 QBs were off the board.

This is a guy with the right motivation and the right coaching that has the ability and skillset to develop into a more athletic version of a younger Russell Wilson. Nasty deep ball that can devastate off play-action paired with rushing ability that is dangerous in RPO style attack.

However, I don’t think the Seahawks took Milroe and told the room we got our franchise QBotF. He like Wilson, is going to have to earn everything and Milroe doesn’t have the pedigree, polish, and poise as a passer Russell had coming out despite being a better running QB. Yet, as I said above they mapped out Milroe to function within their offense. Mac eluded to something regarding Milroe in that he earns it could take at least 10% snaps. Eluding to a role they have in mind which a lot of peeps think is a Taysom Hill type role.

But that 10% to me is a Heroball type role. Both Geno’s and Darnold’s weaknesses are similar, they are good to great QBs in the function of the offense but both leave a lot to be desired in terms of having that extra oomph when it gets tough, when they get rattled and they tend to get more sloppy and less effective when things aren’t working or they are forcing things. I see Milroe as a band-aid to a stalling or sputtering offense in being a guy who can change the pace, change the momentum if he hits on explosive plays that more than less will stress defenses out of their vibe and possibly their game play. Milroe is a dynamic trump card.

Don’t care if he doesn’t get it together or not. If he does develop into something like a bargain bin Lamar Jackson, that’s great. But in the very least he could be a weaponized QB2 that can be implemented into an offensive package and provide explosive, field tilting plays with his athleticism. If he has to start some games, he’s dynamic enough to keep you in games kind of like rookie contract Wilson.

There’s enough to like, some to love, to not really hate the vision of Milroe in this offense to really hate on this pick. If you are expecting anyone to be a bonafide starter at 92 then your expectations are too high. But at the same time the franchise type ceiling is there for the taking with enough hard work and scheme opportunity. But his floor, imo, is dangerous too if leveraged smartly and methodically, too. You can’t really say that about a lot of other QBs in this draft. That’s why Milroe is ultimately a great pick even though I’m not entirely sold on his prospects to become something great. He still can be deadly and productive in a role where he’s not starting. No other QB has that type of ability in this draft.

 

[Sonichound16]

I personally love all the stuff I am reading about how he killed the pre-draft interviews. Basically called himself out on all of his weaknesses before the coaching staff could even bring them up and how he needs to work on them to improve. It is refreshing in this day and age to see something like that instead of the constant overhype, showboating and grandstanding about yourself. Especially from the "Legendary" one himself!

 

[LTH]

The opinions of the pick of Milroe for most on this board were either great or a waste of a pick. Very little in between. Here is why in my opinion it’s absolutely a slam dunk.

Quarterback is absolutely the toughest position to hit on. In most cases, you need to have either a top 5ish pick or get very very lucky with a pick later on. In the case of Milroe his arm strength and running ability is absolutely top-notch. Again, his running ability by many coaches is second to none!!! It’s what many are pointing to regarding his accuracy and game situational awareness as being the issue. Some of these same things were being said about Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen when they were coming out. Now they are considered 2 of the top three quarterbacks in the league.

With the 92nd pick the risk reward was 100% justified in taking a quarterback with second to none skill sets and to try and make him into a superstar. It’s unlikely Seattle will have a top 5 pick any time soon so this is where you take your shot with a late third round pick on greatness. If you miss, you didn’t set your franchise back at all. If you hit, it’s a generational jackpot win. I’d rather take a small risk for greatness than try and win a Super Bowl with good quarterbacks such as Geno or now Darnold.

Time will tell, but with the 92nd pick the risk reward was too good to pass up.

I agree with everything you said... but there is more they have Darnald and Lock so they can bring this guy up slowly and coach him up. 2 years he will be ready to smoke it. Just my take.

LTH

 

[hox]

This is probably AI or something, but still pretty cool:

 

[hox]

Mac eluded to something regarding Milroe in that he earns it could take at least 10% snaps. Eluding to a role they have in mind which a lot of peeps think is a Taysom Hill type role.

I doubt he'll get 10% of the snaps, but there are ideal situations where he could come in and make a difference.

Situations including the many times the team was stuffed on 4th and 1 last season, even with jumbo package. Needed a yard and couldn't get it. That probably didn't sit well with Mac.

Now you can do things that Darnold might not excel at including Tush Push, Read-Option, QB Power Run, RPO, Bootleg, Wildcat and Play-Action if a defense loads the box.

With Milroe's elite speed, you're picking up that first down one way or another.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I suspect they're going to use him. If you watched him in college, he's a damn good athlete that's hard to catch. Can't wait to see what they do with him out there.

 

[Jac]

I doubt he'll get 10% of the snaps, but there are ideal situations where he could come in and make a difference.

Situations including the many times the team was stuffed on 4th and 1 last season, even with jumbo package. Needed a yard and couldn't get it. That probably didn't sit well with Mac.

Now you can do things that Darnold might not excel at including Tush Push, Read-Option, QB Power Run, RPO, Bootleg, Wildcat and Play-Action if a defense loads the box.

With Milroe's elite speed, you're picking up that first down one way or another.

Imagine that 4th and 1 package with Milroe and Ouzts stepping on the field. It'll give opposing DC's nightmares.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep, pick your poison.

 

[HagFaithful]

Milroe dominates Georgia

Watch these highlights against an NFL calibur defense.

 

[BamaGirl]

I've had the pleasure of watching Milroe grow throughout his career. My fiance went to Alabama, so it's a ritual every Saturday to watch Bama games.

Milroe quickly became one of my favorite Alabama players.

His running ability doesn't need to be mentioned. He's an elite runner and incredibly elusive.

He has a CANNON, and very accurate on deep balls. He definitely won't have a problem throwing for distance in the NFL. He had an insane chemistry with Ryan Williams.

My one qualm with him is his ability to read defenses. Some of his decision making did cost the Tide a few games down the stretch, and he was pretty bad in his final Alabama game.

However, I don't know if that is indicative on him never being settled with an offensive coordinator. Tommy Rees was his coordinator in his first year where Bama made the CFP, but I wasn't very crazy about him. Next season, it was Nick Sheridan who was abhorrent.

The one thing that will allow him to develop into an NFL quarterback is his ambition. I'm truly impressed with how mature this young man is and his ability to look in the mirror and understand his flaws and how to improve them.

I think there will be some growing pains with Jalen, but in my. honest opinion, he's worth it. I was so beyond happy when we drafted him.

Alabama Alumni here, I graduate before the great Shaun Alexander played, but since we have had season tickets since 1997, I got to see him play a lot. One of my all-time favorite players at Alabama.

Let me calm some fears for some of you about Milroe. Like Shaun, he is a top-notch character guy. I couldn’t ask for a better man to represent my alma mater than him. He was never in trouble, always volunteering for numerous organizations around campus, and the other players on the team absolutely loved him. He was the guy who is credited with keeping our team core together when Saban retired, and those that left, funny, they didn’t even get drafted.

Watching him play was a delightful! He made plays when everything around him was breaking down that no one thought was possible. Yes, he could frustrate me with some of his bone-headed plays, but the excitement of watching him play was worth the frustration.

Everyone needs to remember, when he was backing up Bryce Young, our OC Bill O’Brien never really put him in games to mop up. BOB, wanted him to play RB or TE and was just stubborn about him playing QB. When he did start his first year, he beat UGA twice, won the SEC Championship Game, and took us to the National Championship game into OT. If not for the bad snap on the last play, who knows??

Last year we got another OC who was not good and schizophrenic. Some games he would call nothing but QB runs, even when the team was stopping them and stacking the box, the next game he was bombing it down the field over and over again so defenses started dropping safeties in coverage, only when he was calling a consistent game did Milroe succeed.

Milroe needs some work, but no one will work harder than this young man.

And then y’all got Robbie Ouzts! Another great selection and a great young man and the perfect lunch pail full back. He lead the way for Milroe to score many of his rushing TD’s.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Thx for the breakdown. I can see the Hawks def. using him this year. Can't leave that much talent just sitting on the bench. Esp. with his speed.

 

[Torc]

Two days before the draft there was even speculation that the Steelers might take Milroe in the first round.

I agree with folks talking about his interviews. He appears to check the boxes for talent, intelligence and attitude. Mechanics can be taught, especially if the QB is willing to learn.

https://www.si.com/nfl/nick-saban-spoke-glowingly-about-new-seakhawks-qb-jalen-milroe

"His answers were tremendous. His knowledge was extremely impressive. ...One of the teams asked Jalen Milroe a series of questions about what he was really good at. And then they said they asked him what he could get better at, and his answer was, 'How much time do you have?' And the guy goes, we're sitting there interviewing Jalen Milroe and he's telling us all the areas that he's working on right now."

Milroe is an accomplished deep ball thrower and one heck of an athlete. But there's no doubt his intermediate accuracy could use a bit of work, according to NFL scouts. Milroe was not afraid to talk about his blind spots when being interviewed by teams leading up to the draft.

"[A] team said to him, 'Are you not concerned pointing out those things to us that would concern us?' He basically said to them, I wasn't in the room, but basically said, 'You should be concerned with any guy that comes in this room, who hasn't played a down of NFL football and doesn't tell you that he has weaknesses or that he isn't working on them. Plus it's an insult because that means he doesn't think you know how to watch film,'" Carpenter added.

I'm happy he's a Seahawk, and hope to see some growth over the next couple of years.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Worst case scenario is that they actually try him at QBOTF long-term and it blocks us from taking a real pick at that position in a future draft. That's what I'm worried about.

If he can make a genuine difference as a swiss-army player, it's a good use of a third.

 

[BamaGirl]

I’m not sure how man of you have seen this play from the 2023 season, but it was incredible. I was at that game in Auburn, and it was glorious! Isaish Bond who caught the pass, transferred to Texas, and wasn’t drafted. He would have gone down in Alabama history and lived off that play for decades. Enjoy!

 

[GemCity]

If this young man doesn’t excite you, I’m going to go ahead and need you to update your profile pic. I’ll save ya some time…

 

[MontanaHawk05]

If this young man doesn’t excite you, I’m going to go ahead and need you to update your profile pic. I’ll save ya some time…


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Way ahead of you. That's been my reputation on this board for 15 years.