Which coach has us at 6-0 right now?

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My only concern is MM appears passive on the sidelines. I would prefer more energy and more in your face. But that's just a preference

Bellichick appeared passive on the sidelines through 7 Super Bowl Championships.

I don’t care if my coach is jumping up and down like a crazed lunatic or acting like he’s in a dentist’s chair, just win baby.
 

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patience.....that team full of all stars in the bay area wasn't built overnight.
They drafted well but it still took years to build that roster.
Hopefully we can do something similar.

It is known
 

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JS has been here . . is it 14 years?

By now he should have built a couple more Super Bowl contender type teams outside of the two that went.
 
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Pete probably would have won the Lions game. Don't think he'd be 6-0.
Pete would have the exact same record as MM. what would he have done differently? Were his schemes at this point miles better? This gets me labeled as a hater but the Pete we saw the past 2-3 years was not the same Pete we saw early on in my opinion. You could argue we would have a worse record than we do if he was coaching.
 

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Do we really need to be at 6-0? 5-1 seems more realistic.
Lions look very good.

I think the fan base has a valid reason to be concerned because of the "trend". We seem to have regressed. Maybe it's injuries or better opponents but we have struggled the last 3 games. Still plenty of football left to right the ship but the trend is important.

Just a point on our FO now a days. JS is the GM and Mac is the coach. While I'm sure they collaborate, JS has the keys, not Mac, just like dibs wrote.
no, coaches always have final say in player decisions.
 

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Pete would have the exact same record as MM. what would he have done differently? Were his schemes at this point miles better? This gets me labeled as a hater but the Pete we saw the past 2-3 years was not the same Pete we saw early on in my opinion. You could argue we would have a worse record than we do if he was coaching.
Agree, Pete lost his fastball. And I am a Pete Carroll fan boy, I became a 12 by following him to the Seahawks.
 

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no, coaches always have final say in player decisions.
JS went to the combine alone. I highly doubt Mac has final say. Also, why would super coaches have Final say on player acquisition written into their contract? Or insist on being GM and Coach like Holmgren?
 

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Pete was the boss of John and had a say in all of these moves so calling any blame directed at Pete as “disingenuous” is odd. Sure John deserves blame too but I have no choice other than to see how he does when it’s solely his show.

So you seriously don’t give Mike any leeway even though you admit some of the construction is terrible and he has to live with those contracts now? I’m confused.

Oh and the question of Russ vs Jamal….zero clue what that has to do when we’re talking about how Mike should be graded as a coach. Again, confused.
Pete and John have had the same level of control since 2021.

For the last point, you stated "We’re paying Adams 20 million to not play this year for us." What's the implication of that comment? Is Seattle struggling with the lack of cap space from Adams? My point was to highlight that Seattle won 9 games with significantly more cap space tied up after they traded Wilson.
 

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Pete and John have had the same level of control since 2021.

For the last point, you stated "We’re paying Adams 20 million to not play this year for us." What's the implication of that comment? Is Seattle struggling with the lack of cap space from Adams? My point was to highlight that Seattle won 9 games with significantly more cap space tied up after they traded Wilson.
I think my point is fairly obvious in light of the OP’s question. You and others have made the point that Macdonald can’t use the previous staff as an excuse in any form or fashion and this years results has nothing to do with what the previous staff left them. I don’t think that’s fair for Macdonald and his staff and gave an example why. Having terrible contracts that impact this years team isn’t Macdonald’s fault.

But I’m also not a fan of saying “well Pete won 9 games last year so if Macdonald doesn’t the hire was a mistake” for a multitude of reasons. You’re free to disagree but that’s how I see it
 

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I think JS has a dual mandate. Rebuild and stay competitive, which is almost impossible. Let's give Mac time to do his thing.
 

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I think my point is fairly obvious in light of the OP’s question. You and others have made the point that Macdonald can’t use the previous staff as an excuse in any form or fashion and this years results has nothing to do with what the previous staff left them. I don’t think that’s fair for Macdonald and his staff and gave an example why. Having terrible contracts that impact this years team isn’t Macdonald’s fault.

But I’m also not a fan of saying “well Pete won 9 games last year so if Macdonald doesn’t the hire was a mistake” for a multitude of reasons. You’re free to disagree but that’s how I see it
I think we're arguing different points. As I mentioned, "They (Jody and JS) set the standard by which Mike is being judged. It may not be fair to him, but it is a fair line of judgment." Notice that I also don't think it's fair to Macdonald, but Jody and JS did drop him into a win-now situation, and they told us this team/roster underperformed.

Similarly, Seattle's contract situation is not terrible compared to the previous seasons. This is one of their best years in recent memory. For example, they paid Adams more money to be a dumpster fire on the team last season.

I've never made the argument comparing Pete and Macdonald. Anything short of the expectations John and Jody set this off-season reflects poorly on them, not him. I'll defend Mike for the same reason I defended Pete.
 

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Any team can say this, but take away a few bad plays and we would be 6-0 most likely 5-1. What does that tell me? Coach Mile's D is working just not as fast as people want it to. This is prove it year for a lot of people on the team especially Defense. It's not like teams are getting large chunk running plays every single down. Take away the 2 explosive runs in the 9ers game, then tell me how the run D is. It was actually pretty solid. I truly believe having Murphy and Roy on the D-line is gonna help significantly with the run defense. I believe in Coach Mike, his defense is a beast and has been successful everywhere Mike installed it. I also believe we will jolly whoop somebody, I don't know who, but I just feel it.
 

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