Which coach has us at 6-0 right now?

[rjdriver]

Honestly???

Pick your guy. Campbell? McVay? Shanny? Carroll? Hell, let’s pick it up a notch. Landry? Shula? Belichick?

The answer is NONE.

Here is my pre coffee rant.

We lost to one team we should have beat. Every effin team in every effin season loses a game they should have won. There is a reason two teams in 52 years have survived a regular season unscathed. TWO! Both loaded with HOF’s. In 2013 we lost to the Arizona Cardinals at home in week 16 before winning a Super Bowl 43-8.

Yeah, we took a big shit against the Giants. Horrible offensive strategy to abandon the run by a first year staff. Oh well, they were accountable and they fixed it.

The other two teams we lost to are the consensus two best teams in the NFC. I know we hate the Niners, but c’mon, they are stacked. They have started out poorly a few times in the recent past but always end up on a deep SB run. The Lions just beat the piss out of the Cowboys and Goff is having another stellar season.

My point.

Mac has done absolutely nothing to warrant suspicion that he is not the right man for the job. He’s smart. He’s accountable. He’s tough. He also inherited someone else’s defense and is doing the best he can do with very limited talent at the LB position. Mario Andretti himself wouldn’t win a lot of races if he is forced to drive a Camry.

Give him the keys. Give him time to build his program. If he fails, then he fails. I just don’t think he will. This post is for the people already saying he has. Simply because he lost one game he should have won followed by two competitive L’s against superior opponents. All this preceded by three straight wins.

Mac is going to good things with the Seahawks. Just give it some time grasshoppers.

 

[AgentDib]

The concern that I've seen has less to do with the losses themselves than the performances.

We've been run over in that losing stretch, allowing 173 yards rushing per game, while at the same time the QBs (Goff-Jones-Purdy) have surgically picked us apart through the air; completing 60 of 81 passes (74%). Both of those would be worst in the NFL by a large margin over a season, and it is particularly alarming for both aspects of the defense to be that bad at the same time. Before the season, those three QBs were #11, #32, and #13 in ESPN's QB rankings.

That being said, blaming MacDonald entirely for this is indeed misguided. You've tended to tear down Carroll (to build MacDonald up in contrast?), but consider that Pete is the most successful coach this franchise has ever had, built one of the best defenses in NFL history, and our defense was bad with him last season too. Rather than suggesting that it's simply too early for MacDonald to shine, perhaps a simpler explanation is that the share of responsibility lies more towards personnel and execution than towards the scheme.

Putting the focus on player talent and execution also explains a few things that would otherwise be hard to do so. Why are the Ravens #2 in run defense so far this season while the Seahawks are atrocious? Why is Michigan's run defense really good this season? It's easy to scheme when you are the superior talent, and all the scheming in the world can't overcome a lack of talent. Look at how Belichick's run ended in New England, or the Vikings dominant defense this year under the previously much-maligned Brian Flores.

The distinction that I would make, assuming we both believe that our personnel needs to improve, is that MacDonald works for Schneider. There's no guarantee that MacDonald has or will ever have the keys, and so there's no optimal number of games after which he can be accurately judged on his own merits. The important question is whether John is the right person going forwards without Pete and how we can improve our personnel.

 

[FreshBoxLive]

This team would be better under Harbaugh and Roman

 

[oldhawkfan]

If I'm reading between the lines, it sounds like you are advocating for the Seahawks to get more guys on the team who are tailored for Mike Macdonalds schemes and concepts. We are 6 games into his head coaching career. He has been the head man for 8 1/2 months. He has had one off season to shop the free agent market He has had one draft to get his kind of guys. I counted about 14 guys who were either drafted or signed to the team in the time since Macdonald was hired. Thats roughly 1/4 of the team.

What does this tell us? Be patient. These things take time.

 

[keasley45]

If I'm reading between the lines, it sounds like you are advocating for the Seahawks to get more guys on the team who are tailored for Mike Macdonalds schemes and concepts. We are 6 games into his head coaching career. He has been the head man for 8 1/2 months. He has had one off season to shop the free agent market He has had one draft to get his kind of guys. I counted about 14 guys who were either drafted or signed to the team in the time since Macdonald was hired. Thats roughly 1/4 of the team.

What does this tell us? Be patient. These things take time.

This.

 

[JayhawkMike]

A better question: Which Quarterback - if any - has us at 6-0 right now?

 

[James in PA]

A better question: Which Quarterback - if any - has us at 6-0 right now?

 

[toffee]

Mike Macdonald. We would have been 6-0 if the players didn't mess up.

 

[MORGULON]

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What a nozzle

 

[12th Dimension]

Do we really need to be at 6-0? 5-1 seems more realistic.
Lions look very good.

I think the fan base has a valid reason to be concerned because of the "trend". We seem to have regressed. Maybe it's injuries or better opponents but we have struggled the last 3 games. Still plenty of football left to right the ship but the trend is important.

Just a point on our FO now a days. JS is the GM and Mac is the coach. While I'm sure they collaborate, JS has the keys, not Mac, just like dibs wrote.

 

[Spin Doctor]

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What in the Russell F'in Prince is going on here.

 

[Rat]

I wonder how much it bothers Jim Mora that nobody was asking who would have gone 16-0 with his 2009 squad?

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

We need more talent in this team…

Mac needs at least 3-4 draft classes like any new coach to implement his system and get “his” guys on the team.

You want to blame someone?

The best person right now to blame is John Schneider….this team is still his draft picks and has been for a decade now.

 

[Ozzy]

We’re paying Adams 20 million to not play this year for us. How some posters say the previous staff has zero impact on the results this year is disingenuous at best yet the same 2-3 guys keep making that point because they’re mad Seattle moved on. It’s going to take a couple of years to fix the terrible roster construction, contracts, new draft picks for your team and vision etc. it’s a unicorn situation for something to happen like it did in Houston. Give Mike a chance. We know he can coach his ass off so let him do his thing

 

[NJlargent]

My only concern is MM appears passive on the sidelines. I would prefer more energy and more in your face. But that's just a preference

 

[knownone]

We’re paying Adams 20 million to not play this year for us. How some posters say the previous staff has zero impact on the results this year is disingenuous at best yet the same 2-3 guys keep making that point because they’re mad Seattle moved on. It’s going to take a couple of years to fix the terrible roster construction, contracts, new draft picks for your team and vision etc. it’s a unicorn situation for something to happen like it did in Houston. Give Mike a chance. We know he can coach his ass off so let him do his thing

Were you making this argument in 2022, when Seattle paid Russ 26 million not to play for us, and Jamal missed the entire season with a cap hit of 10M? I doubt it.

I'm sure most would agree that the previous staff has had some impact on the situation. However, blaming Pete for roster construction, terrible contracts, etc., is completely disingenuous. It's not like the team hired a new front office and coach.

John Schnieder has been in charge of contracts, roster construction, scouting, etc., for 14 years. John picked Mike to coach the guys he helped select—that his staff scouted. John and Jody told us they moved on from Pete because he underperformed with this roster. They set the standard by which Mike is being judged. It may not be fair to him, but it is a fair line of judgment.

 

[Ozzy]

Pete was the boss of John and had a say in all of these moves so calling any blame directed at Pete as “disingenuous” is odd. Sure John deserves blame too but I have no choice other than to see how he does when it’s solely his show.

So you seriously don’t give Mike any leeway even though you admit some of the construction is terrible and he has to live with those contracts now? I’m confused.

Oh and the question of Russ vs Jamal….zero clue what that has to do when we’re talking about how Mike should be graded as a coach. Again, confused.

 

[hawkfan68]

This team would be better under Harbaugh and Roman

Dan Quinn has his team 4-2. The Commanders were a worse team than the Seahawks the past few seasons. However, I still believe in MacDonald. He is a good coach but he needs to teach his players how to tackle. I'm not sold on Durde though...I think he is another Clint Hurtt type.

 

[Rat]

Dan Quinn has his team 4-2. The Commanders were a worse team than the Seahawks the past few seasons. However, I still believe in MacDonald. He is a good coach but he needs to teach his players how to tackle. I'm not sold on Durde though...I think he is another Clint Hurtt type.

Jayden Daniels has this team 4-2 anyway.

 

[GeekHawk]

This team would be better under Harbaugh and Roman

Let me think about this for a minute.
No.