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Tech Worlds":1zximqc6 said:I don't think you can get a haul for him at all. Especially the way he played this year. Now had he played as his physically imposing self then I think we could.Thepeelsessions":1zximqc6 said:Trade him. Softy was talking about it today, and thinks the Hawks can get a good haul for him. I'd have to agree.
I'm completely soured on Kam. I don't want to see him here next year.
I think it's best to hang onto him and hope this year was him being in a funk as it seamed Earl was as well.
Hopefully he plays well for us cause I think after his performance this year he is worth more to us on the field then what he could garner in a trade.
hawknation2016":tvrznpmi said:Could not agree more . . . I don't think the market would be very strong for Kam in his current form.
themunn":o0j4c3vd said:hawknation2016":o0j4c3vd said:Could not agree more . . . I don't think the market would be very strong for Kam in his current form.
Don't be daft, even Kam on a down year was still better than most safeties in the league, and teams will be well aware that he came in last year following a holdout, missing training camp after having had surgery in the offseason.
A 28 year old all-pro safety on the market?
He'd at the very least match his current contract, and plenty of teams with more cap space and less talent than the Seahawks would still be willing to pay more than we are
hawknation2016":1nxxgmbx said:themunn":1nxxgmbx said:hawknation2016":1nxxgmbx said:Could not agree more . . . I don't think the market would be very strong for Kam in his current form.
Don't be daft, even Kam on a down year was still better than most safeties in the league, and teams will be well aware that he came in last year following a holdout, missing training camp after having had surgery in the offseason.
A 28 year old all-pro safety on the market?
He'd at the very least match his current contract, and plenty of teams with more cap space and less talent than the Seahawks would still be willing to pay more than we are
Here's the problem with that theory:
(1) Kam has horrible knees and has admitted to playing on a torn knee ligament that has never been surgically repaired.
(2) Kam wants more money. Any team willing to give up capital to trade for Kam would be cognizant of the fact that Kam is unhappy with his current contract and is willing to hold out. A trade would only increase Kam's displease with his current salary, because he would no long be playing for the perennial-contending Seahawks, in a state with zero income tax, and his contract would be stripped of the dead money incentive not to release him. So not only does this mythical team have to be willing to give up 'major' capital for Kam, they would have to be willing to re-negotiate his contract to pay him more or put up with the very real possibility of a holdout.
(3) Kam was not the same player in 2015 that he was previously. He seemed unwilling or unable to produce the jarring hits that made him the named staple of the NFL that he had become. What once was the strength of the team, defending against the TE, has evolved into a weakness: last season due to Kam's knee problems and this season due to his seeming hesitancy or rustiness.
Those are three elements that rarely lead to a highly sought after trade commodity in the NFL. Beyond that, what once looked like a huge bargain, now looks about right for the Seahawks. Kam's current salary makes sense at his current level of play and with the risk that he will continue to regress. I just can't see them getting value for him on the market, and I have to hope that logic will prevail, i.e. that Kam will not repeat the mistake of sacrificing game checks and wins in exchange for nothing. If he holds out again, the team will hold firm, as they should under the circumstances.
Thepeelsessions":3ed9u8py said:Trade him. Softy was talking about it today, and thinks the Hawks can get a good haul for him. I'd have to agree.
I'm completely soured on Kam. I don't want to see him here next year.
I know a lot of people hate giving the Pats respect, but no team in the NFL has done a better job overall of knowing when to move on from players AND getting compensated for it.Rob12":1luoptvs said:I think PC/JS will move some money around for him because they'll fear the repercussions if he's not a member of this team. I think our defense is extremely close, with some very sensitive individuals as our most important players, and moving on from Kam could cause a lot of damage. Unless, of course, he's lost respect from his teammates, which is also possible.
That's not what I would do. I'd love for a message to be sent. I've said it before but for as much as I despise the Patriots, I admire how they handle players who don't buy in fully. I think we need some of that here. Trading Kam to Cleveland for a third round pick after he demands more money would send a pretty strong message.
I don't know what the perfect answer is. I know that his play doesn't warrant a raise. I'm not entirely sure that he's the same player. But how they handle him could have some really big effects on the team moving forward.
Not a real pleasant situation.
+1kearly":wg2xmpkq said:All signs point to there being no bad blood between Kam and the FO. I could see other teams calling Seattle about Kam, but it surprise me if the Seahawks tried to trade him. He's only 27 years old on a reasonable contract. And there's no way Kam would try to holdout again.
I would be surprised if he is in the news at all this offseason.
I think he's worth keeping. When at his best, he can take over a game.