What Happens If They Dont Draft OL?

[TheLegendOfBoom]

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This is what I am expecting

 

[Jegpeg]

The consensus draft boards have Booker as the top IOL going around 25 followed by Zabel at around 35 and Jackson at around 40. Taking one of those at 18 seems to be a bit of a reach, while we could trade down given the pickes we currently have I think the best option is to trade up from 50 (or 52) into the early 2nd round to get one of those three.

 

[glenwo2]

I could just as easily talk about people trying to find any reason to exaggerate his accomplishments and brush over anything negative.

true but you won't find that from me.

I am already aware of his warts.

But there comes a time where people need to move the fk on from his Jets/Panthers days and focus on what happened most recently and NOW.

That's what annoys me about those who are "Yeah BUT...." about Darnold.

It's never about "Well..he has improved as a QB"

It's "OH! When is he going to revert back into the 'Real' Sam Darnold and see ghosts" as if the 14 games he helped win was some Fake Sam Darnold.

It's absolutely infuriating.

 

[12th Dimension]

If we went DB, WR, LB, DL, QB at#18, it's fine and hopefully an elite talent.

50-137 would be the ideal spot to add assets to the OL unless we need a T.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

true but you won't find that from me.

I am already aware of his warts.

But there comes a time where people need to move the *** on from his Jets/Panthers days and focus on what happened most recently and NOW.

That's what annoys me.

Those of us who are pessimistic about him are including his Minnesota days. He was okay, had a better supporting cast than he does now. Nothing special.

 

[glenwo2]

Those of us who are pessimistic about him are including his Minnesota days. He was okay, had a better supporting cast than he does now. Nothing special.

What annoys me are those who are "Yeah BUT...." about Darnold.

It's never about "Well..he has improved as a QB"

It's "OH! When is he going to revert back into the 'Real' Sam Darnold and see ghosts" as if the 14 games he helped win was some Fake Sam Darnold.

It's absolutely infuriating.

And you're saying he was "Okay"?

14-3 is okay???

Wow....do YOU have some unrealistic expectations..

 

[glenwo2]

I guess if a QB doesn't go undefeated in the regular season, he's "okay".

Good to know.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

The consensus draft boards have Booker as the top IOL going around 25 followed by Zabel at around 35 and Jackson at around 40. Taking one of those at 18 seems to be a bit of a reach, while we could trade down given the pickes we currently have I think the best option is to trade up from 50 (or 52) into the early 2nd round to get one of those three.

I never understood the thought of “reaching” for a player. If you like that player, chances are, at least one or two other teams also like that player as well.

But, you would rather risk and wait until later and then draft them?? That’s a dangerous game you are playing and you would lose out on that player if they get selected before you can pick again.

I would rather draft them when I can than lose them because I thought I can draft them later.

I believe all teams have prospects that believe will be available when they draft, at least, they have a perceived “range” of there they will be drafted and if they stray away from that even just a little, they are likely gone.

They say don’t draft for need but for best available, in terms of depth wise, if you have skilled players already and you draft the same position that rookie will play, that rookie may not see the field enough to warrant that draft pick. Maybe down the road, sure, but first rounders, I want them to see the field immediately and pay immediate dividends.

Seattles need for talented offensive lineman has been a pressing need for so long—I can’t understand why it’s not a “want” for Schneider at this point.

His strategy and plans have not faired well as Seattle is consistently ranked well below the average talent for NFL offensive line.

This guy would rather work his magic with castoffs and try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit and for the longest time now.

 

[SeaWolv]

In my opinion, since they did next to nothing to address the issue in FA, they need to draft, at minimum, one guard early and one guard in the mid rounds. If they don't do that and it leads to another year of OLine issues, JS needs to go.

 

[glenwo2]

Okay...let's say JS goes for a WR :

1. Tre Harris - 5.42

2. Jalen Royals - 3.10

3. Tetairoa McMillan - 3.06

4. Kyle Williams - 2.95

5. Jayden Higgins - 2.77

6. Jaylin Noel - 2.73

7. Emeka Egbuka - 2.63

8. Xavier Restrepo - 2.60

9. Jack Bech - 2.52

10. Luther Burden - 2.47

11. Tai Felton - 2.45

12. Matthew Golden - 2.29

13. Savion Williams - 2.15

14. Elic Ayomanor - 2.09

15. Isaiah Bond - 1.94

Anyone think Tre would be there at 18? lol

 

[MontanaHawk05]

What annoys me are those who are "Yeah BUT...." about Darnold.

It's never about "Well..he has improved as a QB"

It's "OH! When is he going to revert back into the 'Real' Sam Darnold and see ghosts" as if the 14 games he helped win was some Fake Sam Darnold.

It's absolutely infuriating.

And you're saying he was "Okay"?

14-3 is okay???

Wow....do YOU have some unrealistic expectations..

I think you have unrealistic expectations if you see Cooper Kupp, JSN, and Noah Fant performing like Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and TJ Hockenson.

 

[GemCity]

Pretty much this…

Field Gulls Article

New O-Coordinator. Can just fire Kubiak at the end and skate by with a just over .500 record.

Rinse…repeat.

 

[Jegpeg]

I never understood the thought of “reaching” for a player. If you like that player, chances are, at least one or two other teams also like that player as well.

But, you would rather risk and wait until later and then draft them?? That’s a dangerous game you are playing and you would lose out on that player if they get selected before you can pick again.

I would rather draft them when I can than lose them because I thought I can draft them later.

I believe all teams have prospects that believe will be available when they draft, at least, they have a perceived “range” of there they will be drafted and if they stray away from that even just a little, they are likely gone.

They say don’t draft for need but for best available, in terms of depth wise, if you have skilled players already and you draft the same position that rookie will play, that rookie may not see the field enough to warrant that draft pick. Maybe down the road, sure, but first rounders, I want them to see the field immediately and pay immediate dividends.

Seattles need for talented offensive lineman has been a pressing need for so long—I can’t understand why it’s not a “want” for Schneider at this point.

His strategy and plans have not faired well as Seattle is consistently ranked well below the average talent for NFL offensive line.

This guy would rather work his magic with castoffs and try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit and for the longest time now.

We are in desperate need of IOL other teams less so. At 18 the best IOL might be the 12th BPA so unless another team really like him more than everyone else they are very likely to be around for quite a few more picks.

Taken to extreme should we trade out 2026 and 2027 1st round picks to trade up to 1sts overall just in case someone takes Booker (or whoever) before 18?

There are two possible situations:

• There is one guy you think would be far better for the team than anyone else. In this case, you might reach a bit to get them if you think they are BPA you absolutely pick them at that point but if you think he is the 15th BPA but the best guard you either trade down or pick the BPA with the plan to trade into a position when there is a realisitic risk someone might take him.
• If there are 2 or 3 guys you consider of a similar level and fit for the team you can be more aggressive, for example if we think Booker, Zabel and Jackson would all be great for the Seahawks with little to choose between them we can wait until one or 2 of them have gone and then trade up.

 

[Seahawker]

If we went DB, WR, LB, DL, QB at#18, it's fine and hopefully an elite talent.

50-137 would be the ideal spot to add assets to the OL unless we need a T.

You are definitely in the 12th dimension if you think there will be many decent OLine at 50 & below. John's had his druthers with Murphy & Spoon, its past time to fix this.
The ENTIRE OFFENSE, the amount of time the D is on the field, TOP... EVERYTHING is dependent on upgrading the OL.
People forget how even in #'s, how low/weak draft slatings rarely net talent.
Trade up where ever and however we can.

 

[AnimeAmore]

Is JS feeling the pressure? Is MM accountable somehow? Will the players start a mutiny? Will the 12's burn the stadium down?

Seriously, if a Guard isn't taken with the first pick we have, is it time for JS to get the boot? They have been signing JAGs all around to fill some holes so the OL should be priority in the draft. Surely they are going to draft interior linemen with the first few picks,,,,,right?

I fully expect Schneider to be fired if the OL is bad enough that it derails the offense. If darnold is a bust because of poor OL then there is really no choice but to fire Schneider.
He's had 15 years and is set in his ways. Everyone around the NFL knows the seahawks need to fix their OL. Failing to fix it this off-season is an automatic firing IMO.
If Schneider really decides to gamble on our OL taking a half step forward just through experience he will either be proven right or dead wrong. It won't take long to know the answer. Four games and we should know.

 

[Scout]

Those of us who are pessimistic about him are including his Minnesota days. He was okay, had a better supporting cast than he does now. Nothing special.

Coaching and supporting cast goes a long way which is why this draft is crucial that JS hits out of the park.

 

[Scout]

Pretty much this…

Field Gulls Article

New O-Coordinator. Can just fire Kubiak at the end and skate by with a just over .500 record.

Rinse…repeat.

Nothing wrong with developing in house but you need to use higher picks to change the current trajectory of the OL. Need a stud to anchor the interior which is most teams do by having free agents or mid to lower drafted guards round out their respective rosters.

Also the modern version of what the Packer and Chiefs did back then looks something like this:

1st/2nd/3rd round Left Tackle
1st/2nd/3rd round Left guard
1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th round center
2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th/UDFA right guard
1st/2nd/3rd/4th round Right Tackle

Teams in the modern era tend to draft Left guards and centers a round earlier than they used to go. Right guards are still devalued but some teams use premium draft selections like 2nd rounders there which is the least important position on the line.

 

[Scout]

For anyone curious here is the current Eagles projected starting lineup on their OL as they defend their title:

LT Mailata, round 7
LG Dickerson, round 2
OC Jurgens, round 2
RG Steen, round 3
RT Johnson, round 1

They also happened to sign Green and Lamm as backups this off season.

 

[Hawkinaz]

Sam Darnold is not a very good QB when he's under pressure. He also had a great coach for a QB and major weapons to throw to last year in Minny. At this point in time, this coming season is not looking good for us, even with a favorable schedule. The Rams will likely win the division, and I'm not so sure that second place in the division is going to be easy to come by. And with teams like the Commanders, Packers, Vikings, Bears battling for those three remaining playoff spots, the NFC West may well only put the division winner in the playoffs.

Most QBs don’t play well when under pressure and this includes Mahomes, Minnesota had big problems with their O line at the end of the year, Kevin O ‘ Connell wasn’t doing Darnold any favors by still calling down field passing with less runs sounds like what Seattle did

O’Connell’s and Kubiaks systems originate with the WCO but O’ Connell does a lot more vertical passing and less running than Kubiak does

The Seahawks will look very different and I do expect them to win the division

 

[Hawkinaz]

My sense... just a guess, really... is John is going to do one of two things with #18...

1) he'll either pick a player that Mac pounds the table for... drafting an impact player on the defensive side of the ball be it Edge, Dline, LB or DB... or

2) he'll trade out of #18, picking up more draft capital by moving down to the mid-20s... and drafting the best Offensive lineman still available.

I don’t see trading back if a player drafted doesn’t make the team than it’s a waste of a draft pick and the Seahawks presently have 10 draft picks. A good thought exercise would be if they draft 10 players what 10 players presently on the roster don’t make the team