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kearly":10g752pu said:Well, I am definitely drafting Tate in fantasy football now. At or near the top in YAC, punt return efficiency and drop rate every year, fast, blocks great, and never gets hurt. Now going to an offense that puts up video game pass attempt numbers, living in the shadow of Calvin Johnson.
$6 million is going to look like a steal for Tate in Detroit. That article is going to look silly in a year's time. Not for supporting Seattle's decision, but for underestimating Tate. Seattle will be just fine, we'll find guys that fit us and the loss of Tate will likely be marginal. I see no reason to dump on Tate though. Tate is about to break out.
Cartire":1q5ccv67 said:CPHawk":1q5ccv67 said:Cartire":1q5ccv67 said:CPHawk":1q5ccv67 said:Some people must have missed the last 5 games of the year.
Like the last game of the season against the rams with that spectacular TD.
Must have missed it.
He's not as good as Doug or Harvin, and we needed to make the move to have one big WR. My guess is the 32 pick will be Mathews and people will forget all about Tate.
Prove to me that Doug is better then Tate without using a few clutch plays in the playoffs as an overall point of a WRs ability. Over the longevity of their careers here, please present something that makes this statement true in anyway.
Doug is great, but it seems like people get to attached to a few big plays, and then end up defining someone whole skill set on those.
DB had a great playoff run.
Tate and a great season run.
One is just more recent.
themunn":34aeak3t said:If Harvin is a prototype why does he rank 6th in receiving yards out of the 2009 draft class, with 0 1000 yard seasons, something all 5 above him plus another have managed? Something 24 players managed last year? Players playing with all manner of QBs. Josh Gordon led the league last year playing for the Browns with NO running game, Ponder is no excuse.
The whole "prototype" thing is bull**** anyway, Aaron Curry was a prototype remember?
Anyone thinking we can just pick up another guy and he'll slot right in and perform to Tate's level needs to open their eyes to how many receivers we've HAD to try out over the last 4 years because the ones we had weren't up to scratch.
Did you know that Tate's 898 yards last year is the highest total since Carroll took over? Maybe just maybe it's got something to do with how little we pass that he's not a "prototype number 1 receiver" than anything else. That and - like the reason for Harvin's numbers, his value isn't measured in yardage, he is a short-to-middle route receiver, his value is in being able to receive the ball within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage and break a few tackles to take it further. How often do you see him run a deep route? Almost never, because we've got a guy like Baldwin doing that (who does it very well, and hence the reason for his much higher average yards per catch).
Tate will be a great player in Detroit, and I'd go as far as saying that Detroit can now rival Chicago for the best WR tandem in the league.
mjwhitay":1qlsteja said:themunn":1qlsteja said:If Harvin is a prototype why does he rank 6th in receiving yards out of the 2009 draft class, with 0 1000 yard seasons, something all 5 above him plus another have managed? Something 24 players managed last year? Players playing with all manner of QBs. Josh Gordon led the league last year playing for the Browns with NO running game, Ponder is no excuse.
The whole "prototype" thing is bull**** anyway, Aaron Curry was a prototype remember?
Anyone thinking we can just pick up another guy and he'll slot right in and perform to Tate's level needs to open their eyes to how many receivers we've HAD to try out over the last 4 years because the ones we had weren't up to scratch.
Did you know that Tate's 898 yards last year is the highest total since Carroll took over? Maybe just maybe it's got something to do with how little we pass that he's not a "prototype number 1 receiver" than anything else. That and - like the reason for Harvin's numbers, his value isn't measured in yardage, he is a short-to-middle route receiver, his value is in being able to receive the ball within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage and break a few tackles to take it further. How often do you see him run a deep route? Almost never, because we've got a guy like Baldwin doing that (who does it very well, and hence the reason for his much higher average yards per catch).
Tate will be a great player in Detroit, and I'd go as far as saying that Detroit can now rival Chicago for the best WR tandem in the league.
If you judge Percy Harvin on receiving yards, we can't even have a conversation. You don't have a firm grasp on what makes him so unique and I'll never win the argument.
-The Glove-":olhtltqt said:http://seattlesportsnet.com/2014/03/12/golden-tate-and-the-conundrum-of-replaceable-players/
I love the way the article starts out...
There are more than a few dozen Golden Tates. He is a type. He is not the prototype. He is not Calvin Johnson. You can replace a Golden Tate with another Tate-type. You cannot replace a Calvin Johnson, a prototype, when only one of his kind, a six-foot-five-inch speedster with hands like cocoa butter, exists.
MontanaHawk05":2cizlyun said:Would you like some irony?
A year ago at this time, I was jonesing to win a Super Bowl in order to shut up the rest of the country.
Now I'm jonesing to win another Super Bowl in order to shut up A BUNCH OF SEAHAWKS FANS.
MontanaHawk05":1ctjawts said:Would you like some irony?
A year ago at this time, I was jonesing to win a Super Bowl in order to shut up the rest of the country.
Now I'm jonesing to win another Super Bowl in order to shut up A BUNCH OF SEAHAWKS FANS.
-The Glove-":3kuhgo7u said:Welp...you guys are all right. Tate is irreplaceable. We're doomed
-The Glove-":2a4n5a3c said:Welp...you guys are all right. Tate is irreplaceable.
Popeyejones":14tli8em said:-The Glove-":14tli8em said:Welp...you guys are all right. Tate is irreplaceable.
Who said this where now?
Was it the same people who said Tate was comparable to Calvin Johnson ?
Let's wag our fingers at those people together, assuming we can find them of course. ;
byau":2frr7fod said:I think a lot of people are underestimating Tate. I think he will have an even better season next year with more receptions.
Been rewatching the 2013-2014 season (yeah!) and Tate made some incredible catches, AND he took some real big hits. That guy is compact, quick, durable, athletic, incredible.
If you check out one of Yahoo's articles
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/wr-tate-ag ... EAkTJNbK5_
Tate, 25, led all NFL receivers in forced missed tackles and yards after catch per reception in 2013, according to Pro Football Focus. He was also second in punt-return yards and first in punt-return efficiency.
Tate (5-foot-10, 202 pounds) was among the top available receivers in free agency and the Lions' top target after catching 64 passes for 898 yards and five touchdowns as the Super Bowl champion Seahawks' top receiver for most of the season.
Tate has caught 165 passes for 2,195 yards and 15 touchdowns in four seasons. The last two seasons have seen him catch 109 of those passes for 1,586 yards and 12 touchdowns.
That being said, I do wish we could hold on to Tate, but Tate is right on getting paid on a team that he will get more opportunities for more plays (thus I agree, underrated).
At the same time, while he made plays for Seattle, with Seattle's focus more on running and defense, I don't think the question is if we can find another Tate who is a borderline star. I think the question is if we can find another receiver that will fill in what the Seahawks need. The Seahawks don't necessarily need someone to make plays after the hit or get guys to miss tackles, they will do fine with receivers who can keep their hands on the ball first and foremost and help Russell with short to medium gains. If they can make plays after the catch, that's a bonus.