UPDATE: Seahawks traded for Percy Harvin

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personally i was really starting to hope that the mock drafts from those draft pundits on espn could hopefully be right for once.. bjorn woerner is going to be a poor mans jj watt... wish we could have him.
 

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I absolutely LOVE the compensation to the Vikings. Will withhold the decision on how I feel about his monetary compensation until we see what his deal is. I do believe it will be fine, but that's a wait and see.

As far as the draft picks go, you have to look at Harvin and the draft as what his value would be. Where would you pick a guy like this if he's available? He is likely to go top 5, and top 10 for sure. I basically figure we just paid a 7th rounder and a mid round next year to move up 15 -20 spots in the first round and in way you slice it, THAT is a good deal.
 

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JSeahawks":2xdrr2j2 said:
kidhawk":2xdrr2j2 said:
JSeahawks":2xdrr2j2 said:
I'd even give up the #12 if he wants to keep wearing it. (although I would have given it up for Josh Portis if he wanted to wear it too).

Don't players generally compensate those who have the number they want? What would he do, buy us all who have a 12 jersey dinner?

I'd settle for giving us a Superbowl win.

X... :th2thumbs: :thirishdrinkers:
 

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redhawk253":wyctk58i said:
personally i was really starting to hope that the mock drafts from those draft pundits on espn could hopefully be right for once.. bjorn woerner is going to be a poor mans jj watt... wish we could have him.

Bjorn Woerner will be a top 5 pick.
 

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JSeahawks":1uhzmx8s said:
redhawk253":1uhzmx8s said:
personally i was really starting to hope that the mock drafts from those draft pundits on espn could hopefully be right for once.. bjorn woerner is going to be a poor mans jj watt... wish we could have him.

Bjorn Woerner will be a top 5 pick.
But the mock drafts!
 

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Harvin has missed what, three games?

He has had some issues on the sideline, but that is because he is ultra competative. I think he will fit in very well here with a bunch of other guys that are busting their ass every single snap.

This move makes us the best in the NFC, in my opinion. It may even make niners make a trade for Revis
 

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Haha, wow. That's a dang good move there guys.

Can I come watch practice with you guys? Seeing Harvin vs. Browner/Sherman will be amazing. They should start charging to see that or put it on PPV. :th2thumbs:
 

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Well if this goes thru the seahawks will have the most dynamic offense in the division if not the entire NFL but there will be some collateral damage in the form of players being cut in my opinion now and later. i can see them letting leon washington go for sure maybe sidney rice or golden tate so we will probably see one of our main weapons possibly getting the boot unless they take a big pay cut becuase they have alot of money on that side of the ball. But the offense is not like the defense were a big name big contract could mess up the dynamic of the unit i think but who knows, Harvin is young and his best days should be ahead of him. If the hawks do make this trade there a still plenty of picks and i think they shold be used more on the defensive side of the ball and still pick up richard seymour then I think its Super Bowl or bust for the seahawks.
 

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volsunghawk":10tw5otd said:
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Important to note: The trade is contingent upon us signing him to a long term deal. My guess is 5 years 48 million.

Heh, no. That compensation isn't going to be under $10M a year.

$40 million guaranteed then he goes under $10 million / year

$5 million guaranteed then heck no

Both extremes just pointing out that it isn't just about the millions per year. Remember no income tax in Washington and it is 7-8% in Minnesota and the amount of guaranteed will impact the final number. Finally if I was a financially smart player I would take more now as signing bonus over long drawn out guaranteed money. Simply because tax code for millionairs is changing annually right now....

$30 million guaranteed I see the 5 year $48 million as about right
 

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pinksheets":3husvisy said:
If you just took Percy away from the Vikes and threw him into the draft pool as he is, where do you think he goes in this draft?


He wouldn't get out of the top five, according to Field Gulls.
 

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kidhawk":z1qtbfh6 said:
As far as the draft picks go, you have to look at Harvin and the draft as what his value would be. Where would you pick a guy like this if he's available? He is likely to go top 5, and top 10 for sure. I basically figure we just paid a 7th rounder and a mid round next year to move up 15 -20 spots in the first round and in way you slice it, THAT is a good deal.

That's a really great way of looking at it. Harvin's a massive talent, and we paid pennies to "move up" and grab him. Yeah, his contract is going to be massive, so there's a difference between him and a rookie talent. But he's also proven he can dominate in the NFL, and he's still young... we've got him for his prime.
 

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theENGLISHseahawk":sn82zi57 said:
If anyone's interested, here's a piece on the pro's and con's: http://seahawksdraftblog.com/seahawks-t ... rcy-harvin

"Carroll and Schneider want unique players. Difference makers. Playmakers on both sides of the ball that possess rare qualities that you just don’t find every year in the draft. Harvin doesn’t just fit the bill, he’s the poster boy. There isn’t another Percy Harvin in the league. There isn’t another Percy Harvin in this draft class. That’s why he fits in Seattle.

Then there’s the other side of Percy Harvin…

His fall out with Minnesota was ugly. Very ugly."


Per Glen Peer‏@weekapaug009

"Last week NFL radio, Amani Toomer and Alex Marvez I believe were talking Harvin's football IQ, and personality...both acknowledged he had attitude issues, but were out of being upset over the play calling/game planning...it's not he's just a head case...both called him..1 of smartest WRs in the game...the flare up with Frasier vs. Seattle-they said-was over a lack of AP touches in 2nd half, not his touches"
 

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Most of his sideline outbursts were reportedly due to him feeling like he was the only one giving his all out on the field. Who he wants to play with is the definition of our Seahawks.
 

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Lynch Mob":12lx0rw6 said:
Well if this goes thru the seahawks will have the most dynamic offense in the division if not the entire NFL but there will be some collateral damage in the form of players being cut in my opinion now and later. i can see them letting leon washington go for sure maybe sidney rice or golden tate so we will probably see one of our main weapons possibly getting the boot unless they take a big pay cut becuase they have alot of money on that side of the ball. But the offense is not like the defense were a big name big contract could mess up the dynamic of the unit i think but who knows, Harvin is young and his best days should be ahead of him. If the hawks do make this trade there a still plenty of picks and i think they shold be used more on the defensive side of the ball and still pick up richard seymour then I think its Super Bowl or bust for the seahawks.

His contract, no matter how big, won't hurt our cap too much this year. These kinds of deals normally get huge signing bonuses and the first year is quite low salary wise. What will happen is it will give us a full year to be able to evaluate all our talent and see who's worth what at the end of next season before deciding on any cuts or restructures. The only person who is going to be a casualty on the offense due to their salary is Obamanu, and that was happening even without the Harvin signing
 

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pcbball12":12mz74ce said:
theENGLISHseahawk":12mz74ce said:
If anyone's interested, here's a piece on the pro's and con's: http://seahawksdraftblog.com/seahawks-t ... rcy-harvin

"Carroll and Schneider want unique players. Difference makers. Playmakers on both sides of the ball that possess rare qualities that you just don’t find every year in the draft. Harvin doesn’t just fit the bill, he’s the poster boy. There isn’t another Percy Harvin in the league. There isn’t another Percy Harvin in this draft class. That’s why he fits in Seattle.

Then there’s the other side of Percy Harvin…

His fall out with Minnesota was ugly. Very ugly."


Per Glen Peer‏@weekapaug009

"Last week NFL radio, Amani Toomer and Alex Marvez I believe were talking Harvin's football IQ, and personality...both acknowledged he had attitude issues, but were out of being upset over the play calling/game planning...it's not he's just a head case...both called him..1 of smartest WRs in the game...the flare up with Frasier vs. Seattle-they said-was over a lack of AP touches in 2nd half, not his touches"

If that's true, the man will fit right in with this team. (And he was quite right, seeing as ADP was carrying the Vikings all year.) It also makes this the steal of the year.
 

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Axx":1xrhgci4 said:
Thunderhawk":1xrhgci4 said:
2) Injury Risk


He has only missed 3 games in his entire career.

Also every player is "Injury Risk". We just dont look at it this way because the team was lucky in that department last season.

I mean Clemons wasnt suppose to be at risk of injury and neither was Marshawn or big red.


Actually, he's missed 9 games i believe. He missed 6 games last year with a sprained ankle.
 

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You can bet the rest of the division's butts are starting to pucker. In your face SF in your face.
 

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TheLargentLine":3bk6o91p said:
Harvin has missed what, three games?

He has had some issues on the sideline, but that is because he is ultra competative. I think he will fit in very well here with a bunch of other guys that are busting their ass every single snap.

This move makes us the best in the NFC, in my opinion. It may even make niners make a trade for Revis

I have his game log missing 12 games in four years. He played 9 in 2012. Was he suspended? Otherwise, why are people suggesting he missed only 3 games?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/i ... rcy-harvin
 

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theENGLISHseahawk":3mant8xl said:
If anyone's interested, here's a piece on the pro's and con's: http://seahawksdraftblog.com/seahawks-t ... rcy-harvin

"Carroll and Schneider want unique players. Difference makers. Playmakers on both sides of the ball that possess rare qualities that you just don’t find every year in the draft. Harvin doesn’t just fit the bill, he’s the poster boy. There isn’t another Percy Harvin in the league. There isn’t another Percy Harvin in this draft class. That’s why he fits in Seattle.

Then there’s the other side of Percy Harvin…

His fall out with Minnesota was ugly. Very ugly."
After having read your blog I am even more convinced we gave up to much for this guy. Sounds like a major head case. Not saying he doesn't make our offense better if he is healthy (big if) but man we are paying a lot for him both in picks and against the cap.
 

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The last Vikings WR we picked up who had injury history concerns worked out pretty well once we got a real QB to throw to him. I'll be worried about Harvin when there's reason to be after he joins our team.
 
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