Update on Aaron Curry trade

[-The Glove-]

The guy seems to be too worried about Bible-thumping and conspiracy theories. I hardly see him post any updates on football related stuff.

 

[seahawkfreak]

My most disliked Seahawk of all time.

That would be the Boz.

Wellllll,,,,,, maybe true but I actually liked him. I was 11 at the time, maybe thats the difference.

 

[kearly]

I hate Jerramy Stevens more.

I loved Stevens when he was a Seahawk. Had a ton of "man crush" inducing big plays, especially in the red zone. He's a terrible person though, might be the worst person that has ever played for the Seahawks.

I generally like to go against the grain when it comes to "cool to hate" and "cool to like" things. I thought both Djack and Stevens caught more shit than they deserved at times, and it made me want to stand up for them.

 

[kearly]

Actually, the Curry pick did help get Tim Ruskell fired, and without that there's no PC/JS. He would have probably been let go anyway, but still, it helped.

 

[SalishHawkFan]

So just to be clear here: Our team is doing great, we've got a draft pick out of Curry still coming up, but the majority of posters here just want to make themselves miserable bitching and moaning about what an awful bust Curry was? That about sum it up?

 

[Scottemojo]

I hate Jerramy Stevens more.

I loved Stevens when he was a Seahawk. Had a ton of "man crush" inducing big plays, especially in the red zone. He's a terrible person though, might be the worst person that has ever played for the Seahawks.

I generally like to go against the grain when it comes to "cool to hate" and "cool to like" things. I thought both Djack and Stevens caught more shit than they deserved at times, and it made me want to stand up for them.

Yeah, but did your contrary streak make you support Kelly Jennings? Now, that would be against the grain. Like PeHawk.

 

[Hawkscanner]

The next time NFL network compiles a top 10 draft bust list, Curry needs to be on it. Ahead of Mirer and far ahead of Bozworth, IMO. At least Mirer gave us one decent season, and was flipped for a 1st round pick that was instrumental in the 1997 draft (Springs, Jones).

Curry a far bigger bust than Boz?!? Are you feeling OK today? Now I love your stuff Kearly and respect the heck out of you ... but I honestly think you need to check your temperature because that's nothing short of Pure D Crazy Talk.

There is absolutely no way Curry could ever be considered a bigger bust than the Boz. When we're talking busts, you've got to factor in just WHO this guy was in college. Think Richard Sherman meets Dennis Rodman.

Those who honestly feel that way and never got a chance to actually see him should watch this (I don't know if you personally fit in to that category or not). That gives you just a brief taste of who the Boz was ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0YOoRXcrlQ'

Funny, but I don't ever seem to recall Aaron Curry ever arriving to Seahawks practice in a helicopter ... nor all the other myriad of hijinks that this guy pulled off. At the time he was drafted, his 10 year/$11 Million contract was the richest deal ever given to an NFL Rookie (the biggest in history). No way man -- not even close to the same solar system.

 

[NinerLifer]

How many draft picks do you guys have this year? From an outsiders perspective you don't seem to have too many holes to fill so I imagine you guys will be using some of your lower picks to trade up and possibly beef up your offensive line and pass rush, or possibly as trade bait for a FA.

Right now, 10. You guys have 11, most in the NFL right now.

We're being told to expect two more 7th rounders as comp picks.

Not sure how draft picks can be trade bait for a FA... explain yourself.

Restricted free agent

 

[garrylt4]

My most disliked Seahawk of all time.

He in the top ten but Dan Mcgwire holds my top spot.

 

[tooshort]

Loved the pick at the time..went as far as to welcome myself to dotnet as "hawkcurry" (shudder)

As much as he sucked from then on our craptastic LB actually had a great 5th game against Jacksonville,where he absolutely blew up/ragdolled a few folks and strangely looked like he could diagnose and cover.

From all the predraft research I did that year I remember how Curry was an extreme momma's boy with a "my daddy wasn't there" chip on his shoulder. With his "never there" former NFL player dad (Colts DB reggie pinkney) I am pretty damned sure that he checked out of the game the second his son was born with money in his pocket and a greater purpose...

No excuses for his love of the game (lack there of) but he did set his priorities somewhat straight.

Can't believe we somehow got 2 mid round picks for this (football related) POS!!

 

[kearly]

The next time NFL network compiles a top 10 draft bust list, Curry needs to be on it. Ahead of Mirer and far ahead of Bozworth, IMO. At least Mirer gave us one decent season, and was flipped for a 1st round pick that was instrumental in the 1997 draft (Springs, Jones).

Curry a far bigger bust than Boz?!? Are you feeling OK today? Now I love your stuff Kearly and respect the heck out of you ... but I honestly think you need to check your temperature because that's nothing short of Pure D Crazy Talk.

Bozworth got bounced because of injuries. Curry was a terrible player that got bounced because he had shit for brains with a terrible attitude. Bozworth was more legendary overhype than lousy, and given the way we acquired him, you can't really claim that taking him was a mistake since it was a take it or leave it situation (supplemental draft). Wasting #4 pick > wasting the #21 pick.

Also, the shit Bozworth pulled was awesome entertainment value. I bet the newspapers and ESPN loved him. Only in the 80s.

 

[Hawkscanner]

Bozworth got bounced because of injuries. Curry was a terrible player that got bounced because he had shit for brains with a terrible attitude. Bozworth was more legendary overhype than lousy, and given the way we acquired him, you can't really claim that taking him was a mistake since it was a take it or leave it situation (supplemental draft). Wasting #4 pick > wasting the #21 pick.

Well that IS one way of looking at things I suppose. I guess the way I'm looking at it is -- the greater the height ... the greater the fall. As John Clayton said in that ESPN video clip I listed above, "There is not 1 NFL Team that wouldn't have taken Brian Bosworth." That is absolutely 100% right. Most people DID believe that this guy would be the next Lawrence Taylor -- a sure Hall of Fame Talent. He had unbelievable speed and hitting ability for a guy his size. Remember, he is still the only 2 time Butkus Award Winner in NCAA History. John Schneider likes to talk about looking for guys who will "Tilt the Room" ... well, people believed this guy would flip it clean upside down.

Aaron Curry? That's just simply not the case. There was none of that type of hype surrounding him. He was simply seen as the "safest" pick from that draft. He had some of the greatest physical tools you could ever want in a LB -- just none of the brains. Bosworth that wasn't the case with -- he HAD NFL Brains. He could diagnose plays just fine (and quickly I might add) ... it's just that his entire physique was propped up a lot like those inflatable muscle suits -- and it took its toll on his body.

Also, I'm looking at it from the stand point of long term impact on the franchise. Now, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm remembering that Bosworth's contract was seen as something that financially crippled the Seahawks for a long time. I'm remembering that Bosworth's $11 Million deal (again the richest contract ever given to an NFL rookie at the time) was basically cited by the Hawks at the time as being a financial anchor that held them back from making other moves that would have otherwise been made that could have improved the franchise. Bosworth's contract hung on this franchise like a prisoner in a ball and chain for years -- at least, that's how I remember it being portrayed at the time.

That also wasn't the case with Aaron Curry. Though it does stink when you think about the fact that this team wasted the #4 overall pick ... and you can start listing off all of the other players out there they could have spent that choice on ... the Seahawks as a franchise weren't exactly impeded by that mistake whatsoever. Are we truly being crippled in any way, shape, or form by it? Pfft! Not at all. Schneider was able to find a pigeon to take Curry ... and actually able to get draft choices for the guy. Heck, knowing Schneider, he's liable to take that 5th Round pick this year and turn it in to a Pro Bowler. If you look at the Bosworth situation on the other hand ... after all the noise died down, the Seahawks didn't truly didn't get anything of any long term lasting significance from the Boz.

Also, the shit Bozworth pulled was awesome entertainment value. I bet the newspapers and ESPN loved him. Only in the 80s.

Dude -- you don't even know. Like thirsty dogs, they all lapped from that dish. By the way, if you ever play that very first Tecmo Bowl Game ... you want to choose Bosworth if you play Seattle because he's the best defensive player on the team. That just goes to show you how much he took everyone by storm. This guy really was Madonna/Dennis Rodman/Neon Deion. Richard Sherman is a flashy character for sure ... but has nothing on this guy. Sherman could learn a thing or 2 from the Boz. The biggest self promoter in Seahawks History (and one of the greatest in NFL History) no doubt about it.

 

[RockinHawks]

The next time NFL network compiles a top 10 draft bust list, Curry needs to be on it. Ahead of Mirer and far ahead of Bozworth, IMO. At least Mirer gave us one decent season, and was flipped for a 1st round pick that was instrumental in the 1997 draft (Springs, Jones).

Curry a far bigger bust than Boz?!? Are you feeling OK today? Now I love your stuff Kearly and respect the heck out of you ... but I honestly think you need to check your temperature because that's nothing short of Pure D Crazy Talk.

Bozworth got bounced because of injuries. Curry was a terrible player that got bounced because he had shit for brains with a terrible attitude. Bozworth was more legendary overhype than lousy, and given the way we acquired him, you can't really claim that taking him was a mistake since it was a take it or leave it situation (supplemental draft). Wasting #4 pick > wasting the #21 pick.

Also, the shit Bozworth pulled was awesome entertainment value. I bet the newspapers and ESPN loved him. Only in the 80s.

Agree with Kearly 100%. Seattle got NO love from the media back then, landing the Boz actually gave us some primetime Sunday Night NFL love...I think it also made it possible for the Hawks Broncos game where Largent lit up Harden for the entire country to see...

The Boz is in no way the biggest Seahawk bust. Dan Maguire, Curry, perhaps even Lamar King (pretty sure he was a 1st rounder by Holmgren) were bigger busts than Boz, who, again, had a really nice rookie campaign.

 

[McG]

So glad we didn't get Clay Matthews or Cushing. This guy was such a waste of a high 1st rounder.

 

[captSE]

Hey, remember when Raiders fans were all like, "We fleeced the Seahawks for Curry! Just win, baby!"

They got 13 games out of him over 2 years before they released him.

Right. We fleeced ourselves...

 

[CrimsonWazzu]

My most disliked Seahawk of all time.

I hate Jerramy Stevens more.

This x1000

 

[zayden185]

In hindsight I am happy they drafted Curry. I think Sanchez was the pick if he wasn't. Not anything against Sanchez (I think he is in a horrible situation) But drafting a QB usually gives the coach and GM a three year extension.

In the magical world of what if... if Sanchez was the pick.... Mora would have gotten the benefit of a couple more years... so no Carroll... no schneider..... no wilson..... no sherman or browner.... no clemons..... etc etc.

we would be nowhere close to where we are now.....

Honestly, look at the 1st round of the 2009 draft..... maybe the worst first round i have ever seen.... at least we got a couple picks for our bust... whereas most teams are still stuck with theirs.

Yup...I look back on life and say what if

But I wouldn't have the kids I have etc

'twas supposed to be

Jesus. That Mora-Knapp fiasco...that was a painful year tho

 

[Hawkscanner]

Agree with Kearly 100%. Seattle got NO love from the media back then, landing the Boz actually gave us some primetime Sunday Night NFL love...I think it also made it possible for the Hawks Broncos game where Largent lit up Harden for the entire country to see...

The Boz is in no way the biggest Seahawk bust. Dan Maguire, Curry, perhaps even Lamar King (pretty sure he was a 1st rounder by Holmgren) were bigger busts than Boz, who, again, had a really nice rookie campaign.

In terms of pure numbers, believe it or not Aaron Curry was actually more productive in his career than Brian Bosworth ...

Bosworth ... 4.0 Sacks ... 3 Fumble Recoveries
Curry ... 5.5 Sacks ... 4 Forced Fumbles

And in terms of the mark that each player ended up leaving on Seahawks, Aaron Curry actually gave us something. Schneider turned the 7th Round Pick he got from the Raiders last year in to J.R. Sweezy (who could turn out to be a starting guard for us) ... AND not only that, we also have a 5th Rounder from that deal that (knowing Schneider) he could very well convert in to a Pro Bowl Player.

The Boz? Outside of a few remaining T-Shirts, Land of Boz posters, some very few scattered highlights, he really gave Seattle nothing for all the money that they ended up sinking in to him.

For me, I basically define a "bust" as a player who:

1) Had all the ability in the world, but never even came close to playing up to expectations.

2) Was generally a star player in college ... and fell flat on his face in the NFL.

3) Was generally a 1st Round Pick, received a ton of money, and basically didn't even come close to earning it.

4) After all was said and done, the club had basically nothing to show for the player (they got nothing, or darn near close to it, for the investment they made).

In my mind, Curry meets criteria #1 and 3 ... but I don't know that I ever thought of him as either a star player -- AND (as I mentioned above) the Hawks DO have something to show for him (Sweezy and the Raiders 5th Round Pick this year). Bosworth? If you really step back and look at the grand scheme of things -- the Hawks honestly didn't really get much of anything for their investment. That's why he's a much bigger bust than Curry. Just my .02.

 

[MORGULON]

The perfect play to spotlight Curry as a Seahawk was against the Giants in 2011, when he had an easy chance for a pick six to ice the game and it went right through his hands...thankfully, Browner grabbed it and took it to the house.

I remember this pathetic play. Sums up Curry perfectly.

 

[VB Hawk]

Bosworth's career was limited by injuries , Curry's was was just absolutely flat out awful.