Trade Deadline Approaching

[Trackhawk]

We also lead the league in running out of 12 and 22 personnel sets. When you run out of heavy formations, yours going to be running into heavy formations.

We are reaping the benefits of this when we run pass plays out of the same formations. We get extra pass protection plus a defensive set that’s easier to take pass on.

It’s successful not just for the alignments, but for the fact that we pound the rock out of them again and again and again. Defenses have to respect that.

It’s a great scheme for helping out a weak line.

A better right guard would be a huge help for the running game, but won’t be a panacea when schematically, you are baiting the defense into keeping their heavy, run defending, unit on the field.

 

[Trackhawk]

For sure a solid, vet RG would yield the best results of any trade. It would make one of the leagues best offenses that much more well rounded and formidable. I’m not sure how deep we can go with our current scheme, especially if someone comes out and shows the league “how to defend it.”

We have a solid core on d-line and secondary. I’m not sure I want to trade for rotational piece(s). Unless you get a super start to replace Woolen, but I don’t see that happening.

 

[seabowl]

For sure a solid, vet RG would yield the best results of any trade. It would make one of the leagues best offenses that much more well rounded and formidable. I’m not sure how deep we can go with our current scheme, especially if someone comes out and shows the league “how to defend it.”

We have a solid core on d-line and secondary. I’m not sure I want to trade for rotational piece(s). Unless you get a super start to replace Woolen, but I don’t see that happening.

I know he’s old, but Stephon Gilmore is a free agent. It wouldn’t be a bad addition to a young secondary.

 

[SNDavidson]

1. John Simpson Jets guard, known for his exceptional strength, which was highlighted by his performance at the 2020 NFL combine. Before joining the Jets, he had a standout college career at Clemson, winning two national championships, and played for the Las Vegas Raiders and the Baltimore Ravens, where he started every game in his most recent season with them. He is considered a solid player with good character, particularly effective in run blocking due to his physical power, though he has some limitations in pass protection due to hip stiffness
2. Jordyn Brooks Dolphins LB known for his high energy, sideline-to-sideline range, and ability to make a large number of tackles. As a versatile modern linebacker, he is effective against the run, a strong tackler, and also shows promise in coverage and as a blitzer. A first-round draft pick in 2020, he is a key player for the Dolphins' defense, leading the team in tackles in his first season with the team
3. Kayvon Thibodeaux primarily used as a left edge rusher. A 6'5", 258-pound defensive end, he is known for his explosive speed, powerful pass-rushing moves, and strong pursuit skills. Drafted fifth overall in 2022, he has become a key member of the Giants' defense, achieving impressive sack numbers in his early career, although he has shown some inconsistency against the run and in setting the edge

 

[Hawkamaniac]

I spent the morning crunching through a bunch of content. Rumors are all over the place, but a lot of "experts" think the Jets are on the verge of a fire sale. Quinnen Williams, Quincy Williams, and Jermaine Johnson are possibly available. While all 3 are studs, the idea of Ernst Jones lining up next to Quincy Williams is pretty exciting.

He's also relatively cheap ($8Mish), in the last year of his deal, and unlikely to be extended. Further, we have a ton of trade history with Jets. And finally, Fred Warner's broken ankle leaves SF with a massive hole in the middle of their defense. I'd bet Lynch has already been on the phone to NY. Hopefully John has too ...

As a side, there are also a lot of content creators that think the Browns and Titans might start selling aging veterans. That puts Bonito (C), Wyatt Teller (G), and Kevin Zeitler into the conversation. I don't know a ton about scheme fits, buy maybe there's viable OL upgrade to be had as well.

 

[MORGULON]

OLman. Can't have enough good ones. DB second.

Can't argue with this

 

[MORGULON]

1. John Simpson Jets guard, known for his exceptional strength, which was highlighted by his performance at the 2020 NFL combine. Before joining the Jets, he had a standout college career at Clemson, winning two national championships, and played for the Las Vegas Raiders and the Baltimore Ravens, where he started every game in his most recent season with them. He is considered a solid player with good character, particularly effective in run blocking due to his physical power, though he has some limitations in pass protection due to hip stiffness
2. Jordyn Brooks Dolphins LB known for his high energy, sideline-to-sideline range, and ability to make a large number of tackles. As a versatile modern linebacker, he is effective against the run, a strong tackler, and also shows promise in coverage and as a blitzer. A first-round draft pick in 2020, he is a key player for the Dolphins' defense, leading the team in tackles in his first season with the team
3. Kayvon Thibodeaux primarily used as a left edge rusher. A 6'5", 258-pound defensive end, he is known for his explosive speed, powerful pass-rushing moves, and strong pursuit skills. Drafted fifth overall in 2022, he has become a key member of the Giants' defense, achieving impressive sack numbers in his early career, although he has shown some inconsistency against the run and in setting the edge

Jordyn Brooks?

 

[Trackhawk]

I'll throw in a name, and run back a 2015 trade that cost us a ton. Erik McCoy is a phenomenal center, and is fourth in taking up cap space for New Orleans, who is looking at being 15 million over the cap next year. He has two years left, at 17.6 million for each of those years. Slide Sundell out to right guard.

I can't imagine Miami letting go of him, though, and they certainly wouldn't do it on the cheap.

 

[Trackhawk]

Jordyn Brooks?

dot net whipping boy that was always better than people here thought. Definitely matured into a better player. Currently leading the league with 66 tackles, one ahead of Bobby Wagner. Natural position is the Will. I think he would look pretty amazing next to Jones.

 

[MORGULON]

dot net whipping boy that was always better than people here thought. Definitely matured into a better player. Currently leading the league with 66 tackles, one ahead of Bobby Wagner. Natural position is the Will. I think he would look pretty amazing next to Jones.

I definitely think he was being played in the wrong position

 

[Hawkpower]

Why do people suddenly think our OL is okay and we don't need a trade upgrade when we're 24th in rushing yards per game and 27th in rushing yards per attempt?

Nearly every person who responded in this thread mentioned the OL

 

[NoGain]

Nearly every person who responded in this thread mentioned the OL

I wasn't just speaking about this thread. There's been a decided shift in thinking that we needed to pursue defenses backs in trade over the OL in the last few weeks, even LB. That's what I was referring to.

 

[Rat]

Further, we have a ton of trade history with Jets.

History of getting fleeced by them you mean.

 

[Hawkamaniac]

History of getting fleeced by them you mean.

It is kind of funny that we can find Marshawn Lynch, Leonard Williams, and Julian Love, etc., and we can fleece Denver, but we get taken to the cleaners by the worst franchise in the NFL.

I do think John is wiser now.

 

[CallMeADawg]

1. John Simpson Jets guard, known for his exceptional strength, which was highlighted by his performance at the 2020 NFL combine. Before joining the Jets, he had a standout college career at Clemson, winning two national championships, and played for the Las Vegas Raiders and the Baltimore Ravens, where he started every game in his most recent season with them. He is considered a solid player with good character, particularly effective in run blocking due to his physical power, though he has some limitations in pass protection due to hip stiffness
2. Jordyn Brooks Dolphins LB known for his high energy, sideline-to-sideline range, and ability to make a large number of tackles. As a versatile modern linebacker, he is effective against the run, a strong tackler, and also shows promise in coverage and as a blitzer. A first-round draft pick in 2020, he is a key player for the Dolphins' defense, leading the team in tackles in his first season with the team
3. Kayvon Thibodeaux primarily used as a left edge rusher. A 6'5", 258-pound defensive end, he is known for his explosive speed, powerful pass-rushing moves, and strong pursuit skills. Drafted fifth overall in 2022, he has become a key member of the Giants' defense, achieving impressive sack numbers in his early career, although he has shown some inconsistency against the run and in setting the edge

Thanks Chat GPT

 

[SNDavidson]

Thanks Chat GPT

You cite it people hate it, you don’t cite and one individual thinks you give a sh*t enough to impress them to pretend to be google ai which is different than chat gpt, which old people are afraid of too, for no reason other than internal insecurity, anyway, it’s conjecture and it’s not being graded, long story short you’re not columbo, and you didn’t “get me”, lol.

 

[Atradees]

I was happy when we started to rebuild the linebacking core. Wagner and Brooks were big slow and expensive. They should never have dropped into any kind of pass coverage. Tons of empty stats though.

An olineman, linebacker and corner. Some young under the radar guys to improve depth. Players from stacked teams like the Rams, 49ers and Eagles. Teams with great personel departments. Diamonds in the rough.

I don't think we are mortgaging the future for one megastar. Future is to bright.

I heard maybe the Dolphins, Titans, Browns, Saints and Jets maybe having fire sales.....probably every year the stinkers have rumors flying .

 

[SoulfishHawk]

GUARD

GUARD

GUARD

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Posted something. Thought better of it and deleted it.
Right Guard.

 

[glenwo2]

huh?



So to answer our Running Back struggles (which have mainly to do with blocking from the OL), we get another RB?