Thomas and Sherman, how do you fee about them now?

[vin.couve12]

We agree then, it's not comparable. Then why is everyone comparing the two players situations as to why Kam's awesome and Earl's a jerk.

Because it's their behavior that is not comparable, hence why I feel very differently about them.[/quote]


It's really simple, isn't it? It seems there is a clear intent to disregard that aspect though. Pointless to argue about it when people can't live in reality.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Sherman, Kam, ET, and even Browner produced some of the greatest plays as Seahawks as any that have worn the uniform.

If you cannot appreciate that you had the privilege to go watch these guys live and to watch them work together to help bring a Super Bowl victory to this team, (something few other Seahawks have done), I don't know what to tell you.

They were not just along for the ride, they were the reason FOR the ride, along with Lynch, Wilson, Baldwin and the rest.

For Seahawk football fans, they delivered one of the most cherished memories a football fan can have. The lead up to victory and the win in the SB, against one of the greatest offenses of all time.

I wouldn't care if their dog crapped on my lawn, I'd get the autograph and buy them a beer. I certainly don't care if they flipped someone off.

 

[Mick063]

Sherman, Chancellor, and Thomas were an elite unit. As a group, perhaps the best ever.

They complimented each other so well, that I don't know if the individual parts, split up and playing for different teams, would have ever equaled what they did as a unit, even if they were in their prime. I don't believe they would have ever approached what they did for each other or how they made each other better. That is why I believe it is all or none for Hall of Fame. None of them would reach Canton without the complimentary pieces that would let them specialize in specific skill sets at such a high level.

Kam was my favorite. I have never seen a safety consistently blow up pulling guards in the run game like that before. Kam could shed 300 pounders like an elite linebacker. His absence, more than any other, has changed the defensive effectiveness of Seattle. They can't even begin to emulate it with linebacker Kendricks on the field in nickel situations. In other words, attempting to use Kendricks in a pseudo Kam role. And Kendricks is a damn good linebacker.

Watch Kam on #73 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtg-TMmIoo


I have moved on from them as a Seahawk fan. Team first.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Everyone appreciates what they did for this team. Doesn't mean they are above criticism, and big deal, we are all entitled to our opinions. Doesn't make someone less of a fan. I will always appreciate how amazing those guys were for this team and they all helped them win a title and one play from a 2nd. They were all as much a part of it Russ, Pete, Wags, Cliff, Beast...all of them. And overall, meh. It's done and over, they did a heck of a lot more good than a few dumb things. And if these guys did these things on OTHER teams, they would be getting blasted. And it's natural to stick up for one of your own.

That being said, it's time to move on from these guys and stop dwelling on the past. Appreciating the past has always been a good thing.
Go Hawks

 

[Popeyejones]

Unpopular opinion, but all the turmoil on the Seahawks, and there was A LOT (it's not just Sherman and Thomas, at various times it was also Lynch, Baldwin, Bennett, Clark, Ifedi, and a host of others), was really just a failure of leadership.

When things are going well under a player's coach it's the best thing in the world and everyone wants a part of it, but when they start to go south, oh boy does it go south fast.

At least PC recognized it and rebooted the whole thing. I think you'd have to be inside the building for both eras to know, but I'd be kinda interested to know if he's leaned a little further away from being the ultimate player's coach with this version of the team.

 

[onanygivensunday]

In my view, the turmoil was principally caused by certain players thinking that they knew better than the HC and his coordinators. Sideline arguments became the norm for the same reasons. And each one of the malcontents believed that the team could not survive without them. They put themselves way ahead of the team. For those if us who have been with the team from its inception, it was an agonizing train wreck to endure.

 

[Ozzy]

I've posted this before but looking back at the great team I think Sherman is my favorite memory of that team. He just brought something most players don't and it gave fans and the team confidence that you rarely see. The on the field version of Sherman is probably second only to Russ as my favorite ever. Can't stand his off the field stuff, the cancer he became and what he's turned into since. But seeing him at his best was incredible.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt, in his prime he was a flat out dominant player. So good that QB's literally avoided even throwing his way.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

We agree then, it's not comparable. Then why is everyone comparing the two players situations as to why Kam's awesome and Earl's a jerk.

Because it's their behavior that is not comparable, hence why I feel very differently about them.

It's really simple, isn't it? It seems there is a clear intent to disregard that aspect though. Pointless to argue about it when people can't live in reality.[/quote]

I would say most fans thought Kam's behavior of holding out was every bit of a selfish detriment to the team as Earl's antics.

So who's not living in reality? At least Earl's nonsense didn't cost us wins, Kam's holdout did. No one can ever say Earl didn't leave everything out on the field.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Go Hawks! Huge game Sunday.

 

[had2bhawk]

They both play for opponents and still give 100% to their team. That being said, when thinking of all their accomplishments in the NFL both the player and fan will reminisce of their time with Seahawks.

We as fans could only stand up and support their future endeavors which ever team they may be playing with.
That is what any professional will respect in the fan base.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Fair enough, but when people say "you gotta' pull for x player"
Nope, I don't "gotta" do anything.

 

[had2bhawk]

Absolutely!

I hope each time a Seahawk Veteran come to the Clink and he is recognized by the 12"s and show their appreciation for the past. It will be something the younger players will want.

I hope there is a warm welcome for both Sherman and Thomas.

Game begins.......RIDE'M !!

 

[NINEster]

Look forward to facing both of them. I hope Russell goes after RS with some success. I am confident that he will. He is not a shut down corner.

He either isn't now and never was, or he's always been one.

It isn't, he was back then and totally isn't now.

Get back to me when you can.

I can't fathom how you think this makes any sense at all.

The irony is I concur with the original statement - he is not a shut down corner - but more from the view of the old, old days when the Seahawk defense was a real force.

I do think Sherman is worse now than he was 2011-2014, but not by a ton. But he could be as good as he was 2015-2016...

Hawk fans were overrating him back then I think.

Now he's playing on a defense full of monsters and the performance is back. Nobody throwing to his side much....low passer rating this year, and already 2 picks...

His game all this time was more cerebral, technique......never was about Deion speed.

I look forward very much to seeing Wilson target anyone, in particular his friend Sherman. :mrgreen:

 

[NINEster]

Look forward to facing both of them. I hope Russell goes after RS with some success. I am confident that he will. He is not a shut down corner.

He either isn't now and never was, or he's always been one.

It isn't, he was back then and totally isn't now.

Get back to me when you can.

:laugh:

Oh, lookie here. Whiner fan defending Sherman now that he’s on their side of the fence. Classic and so predictable. :roll:

Sherman's actually improved as a man after switching sides. He's still talking shit but he's doing it with a lot more finesse now. :lol:

I'll take it for any perceived physical decline.

PS - I embrace Sherman a lot for his hatred of Wilson...….he hates him more than most Niner fans :irishdrinkers:

 

[Sports Hernia]

Look forward to facing both of them. I hope Russell goes after RS with some success. I am confident that he will. He is not a shut down corner.

He either isn't now and never was, or he's always been one.

It isn't, he was back then and totally isn't now.

Get back to me when you can.

:laugh:

Oh, lookie here. Whiner fan defending Sherman now that he’s on their side of the fence. Classic and so predictable. :roll:

Sherman's actually improved as a man after switching sides. He's still talking shit but he's doing it with a lot more finesse now. :lol:

I'll take it for any perceived physical decline.

PS - I embrace Sherman a lot for his hatred of Wilson...….he hates him more than most Niner fans :irishdrinkers:

I think you hated him then and like him now for whom Jersey he was/is wearing at a specific time.
Same problem some of my fellow hawks fans have.

 

[chris98251]

It has taken about 2 yrs for him to get back physically from the Tear, he was not able to push off with that foot well and compensated, he is back now and has a supporting cast that allows him to play the way he does best.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

I have nothing against Sherm and Earl.

I just wanna win the games against them cause they’re on the other team now.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Exactly, Sherm and Bennett seemed to be the only ones who piled on Russ. Not sure why, maybe Jealousy, but they are gone and it's for the best. Earl was never a bad mouth your teammates type guy.

I think MB stuck up for Russ and almost fought sherman over russ. I could be having cloudy memories.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

This place will explode if sherman picks russ off and SF wins. Cuz you know sherman is itching to talk smack. He is a front runner. I hold no ill will and will always remember that squad that brought a title to PNW.