This is the week we have been waiting for

[jlwaters1]

All I have to say in regards to jlwaters1's post is go look at the Redskins game and look at the plays we TRIED to run in the first half, and then at the ones we tried (and ran much more successfully) in the second half. We were not using a lot of the same plays, and it's not just coincidence. Obviously the fumble thing is on Lynch, but Bevell is...I'd say hot and cold, but it's cold and hot. Cold in the first half, then hot in the second. He's fully capable of calling a string of brilliant plays that make a 4th quarter drive look ridiculously easy. I want to see a lot more of that in the first half.

Execution will always be more important than play calling, IMO. IN the first half we haven't seen good execution. Poorly thrown balls and missed blocks are the main problem. Sure you can say it's bad play calling but the first quater by and large is a feeling out process. You may prepare for certain looks all week only to have the defense show something completely different and have to adjust on the fly. I don't think it's so easy to blame the OC. Everything I hear form RW, PC,ect is "we need to execute better."

 

[RolandDeschain]

Unless we score a TD every single time our offense gets the ball, and our defense allows 0 points, Carroll's going to say we need to execute better. He always says that.

 

[jlwaters1]

Unless we score a TD every single time our offense gets the ball, and our defense allows 0 points, Carroll's going to say we need to execute better. He always says that.

yep

 

[keasley45]

All I have to say in regards to jlwaters1's post is go look at the Redskins game and look at the plays we TRIED to run in the first half, and then at the ones we tried (and ran much more successfully) in the second half. We were not using a lot of the same plays, and it's not just coincidence. Obviously the fumble thing is on Lynch, but Bevell is...I'd say hot and cold, but it's cold and hot. Cold in the first half, then hot in the second. He's fully capable of calling a string of brilliant plays that make a 4th quarter drive look ridiculously easy. I want to see a lot more of that in the first half.

I see that and agree on the skins game. but the overall scheming is lackluster. so sure, he can get in a rhythm if he can manage to get a defense on its heels a little bit, but doing so seems to be predicated on wilson making a few plays on his own to loosen things up (which you have to say is no small reason why we started to have success against the skins and the falcons in the playoffs last year and against houston last week). Russ either by design, as was the case late last year, or through improvisation, moves the chains and forces the D to play him honest or else get burned for chunks when he pulls it down and runs. I think that is a big reason why plays begin to actually work for Bevell. Not saying i'm right, just what it seems to be to me the more i see this season unfold. Think back to the turnaround last year at Chicago. The two game winning drives were because Russel ran the Bears to death. Arizona, less so but he still ran a bunch. The bills, he ran all over the place... 49ers in december 2012, he didnt as much but we just simply dominated. Playoffs - skins began to fold when Russ picked up a couple of huge gains on scrambles and changed the way they played us... Falcons - that one i can give Bev a decent amount of cred for. But that was a case where we were calling and playing 'balls out' because we had nothing to lose.

 

[bestfightstory]

I am fantasizing about TWO undefeated teams meeting in NYC for the SuperBowl.

The best offense in history vs the best defense in history=the greatest sporting event in history.

I've thought about this at least three separate times during the last 10 days, or so. It would be freaking AMAZING. Talk about hype; holy smokes. Plus, we could use it to settle the "Who wins when the best defense plays the best offense?" question on a national level. We semi-answered it last year when the Patriots (#1 offense at the time) played at our house, and we were the #1 defense at the time; but that was a very close game.

The hype would be about #1 O vs #1 D and rightly so: whatta spectacle!!! But the game would likely hinge on the play of Seattle's offense, Denver's defense and Special Teams.

The whole scenario seems unlikely........but not REALLY unlikely. These are two dominant teams. Well. Denver is dominant. We are working on it.

 

[TJH]

This game doesn't tell us if we're Super Bowl contenders.

It tells us if we're 19-0 contenders.

Good lord this is one of the most homer posts I've ever seen. We have too many serious issues as a team to even be thinking about that...

 

[bestfightstory]

This game doesn't tell us if we're Super Bowl contenders.

It tells us if we're 19-0 contenders.

Good lord this is one of the most homer posts I've ever seen. We have too many serious issues as a team to even be thinking about that...

Incorrect. Pete said essentially the same thing in his Town Hall meeting. I went back and watched it this afternoon to get the quote exactly right.

It's about high expectations. This is a great team. Accept it.

 

[bestfightstory]

This thread is about nothing and everything at the very same time. Just like the OP. That's hard to do. Bravo gentlemen.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Good lord this is one of the most homer posts I've ever seen. We have too many serious issues as a team to even be thinking about that...

Read for context, TJH. I said it tells us if we're a CONTENDER for it. As in, MIGHT be possible for it. Contending with something means you're working on getting there, to achieve it; you have a good CHANCE at it. Chance. I am not saying I think we're going 19-0 if we win this Sunday, that is quite different, predicting it. There's no way it happens if our offense keeps dicking around like a castrated priest, but I'm hoping Bevell gets that fixed and we get our O-line back up to decent quality play.

 

[pehawk]

All I have to say in regards to jlwaters1's post is go look at the Redskins game and look at the plays we TRIED to run in the first half, and then at the ones we tried (and ran much more successfully) in the second half. We were not using a lot of the same plays, and it's not just coincidence. Obviously the fumble thing is on Lynch, but Bevell is...I'd say hot and cold, but it's cold and hot. Cold in the first half, then hot in the second. He's fully capable of calling a string of brilliant plays that make a 4th quarter drive look ridiculously easy. I want to see a lot more of that in the first half.

I see that and agree on the skins game. but the overall scheming is lackluster. so sure, he can get in a rhythm if he can manage to get a defense on its heels a little bit, but doing so seems to be predicated on wilson making a few plays on his own to loosen things up (which you have to say is no small reason why we started to have success against the skins and the falcons in the playoffs last year and against houston last week). Russ either by design, as was the case late last year, or through improvisation, moves the chains and forces the D to play him honest or else get burned for chunks when he pulls it down and runs. I think that is a big reason why plays begin to actually work for Bevell. Not saying i'm right, just what it seems to be to me the more i see this season unfold. Think back to the turnaround last year at Chicago. The two game winning drives were because Russel ran the Bears to death. Arizona, less so but he still ran a bunch. The bills, he ran all over the place... 49ers in december 2012, he didnt as much but we just simply dominated. Playoffs - skins began to fold when Russ picked up a couple of huge gains on scrambles and changed the way they played us... Falcons - that one i can give Bev a decent amount of cred for. But that was a case where we were calling and playing 'balls out' because we had nothing to lose.

I'm with you.

BUUUUTTTT, Bevell began clicking last year, and it was lights out. He's just a slow starter; in-game and in-season. I've stuffed my frustration (into French Toast) away, using last years eventual offensive dominance, as the reasoning.

It took Wilson willing the team in Chicago to loosen things up, so, maybe Houston did that?

And, the Hawks Oline will always need playcalling to help them out in pass-protection. That's just a reality everyone needs to accept.

 

[TJH]

This game doesn't tell us if we're Super Bowl contenders.

It tells us if we're 19-0 contenders.

Good lord this is one of the most homer posts I've ever seen. We have too many serious issues as a team to even be thinking about that...

This is a great team. Accept it.

Great teams don't field one of the worst offensive lines in the league. Great teams don't routinely struggle to exceed 200 yards passing. We need to improve dramatically offensively. We have the potential to be truly great, but we aren't there yet. 19-0 talk in the context of our struggles is silly.

 

[pehawk]

What does TJH stand for?

 

[bestfightstory]

^I disagree. We have been favored to win every game this year and that will not change. I see the flaws. This is still a great team. We have had some adversity and we have some kinks to work out. No reason we can't win all of our games in the process.

 

[TJH]

What does TJH stand for?

My initials.

 

[bestfightstory]

What does TJH stand for?

My initials.

Wouldn't 'MI' make more sense?

 

[TJH]

Having said all that, I am kind of glad we are struggling a bit. Wins like last week build a lot of character and mental toughness for a team.

 

[TJH]

What does TJH stand for?

My initials.

Wouldn't 'MI' make more sense?

Touche...

 

[Hawks46]

I wasn't all that worried about Indy until they beat down the Niners. Then again, that could've had some holdover from the whoopin we gave them.

Regardless, Indy got that signature win that can give teams momentum for the year, then followed it up killing Jacksonville.

I'm not worried about the Houston game; we were out both starting Tackles and our starting Center. I honestly don't know many teams that win that game....that's seriously all the offensive line "skill" positions out. This team has learned to be resilient, and I think that game might've taught them to not listen to the hype, if they ever did.

The only thing I'm liking about this game right now is that Indy doesn't have a dominant pass rush, and hopefully our backups will be better with some game experience against one of the top DLs in the NFL. Indy also isn't that good against the rush, and our backups are road graders.

 

[seabowl]

This game doesn't tell us if we're Super Bowl contenders.

It tells us if we're 19-0 contenders.

If we win @ Indy, the 1972 Dolphins better start keeping an eye on us. Our schedule is easier for the rest of the year, basically. Saints could be a problem, but we play them at our house.

I am fantasizing about TWO undefeated teams meeting in NYC for the SuperBowl.

The best offense in history vs the best defense in history=the greatest sporting event in history.

I don't see what you see calling out D "the best in history". Hell I don't even think this is the best D in Seahawks history. I watched all of the 1992 teams games and that D was incredible especially with what is considered the worst offense in the history of the NFL. Don't get me wrong our D now is very good but I wouldn't mention it in the same breath as best D's ever.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

I don't feel it.. I think starting out slow is a chronic issue with this team. If ever they would have realized to come out fast n strong from the start, it would have been the playoff Falcons game last year after starting out slow in the previous game against the redskins.

I blame the coaching for this.. Especially Bevell. I think he is an excellent 2nd half coordinator, but he calls horrible first halfs.

Could be the duct tape and staples O line also.

That would be my thought. Doesn't matter given this isn't gymnastics no style points are awarded or factored into the result.