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Vandelay":2rarwkv6 said:
Pandion Haliaetus":2rarwkv6 said:
Its becoming painfully obvious the NFL is trying to sell a show.

This game stinks of the Colts game.

No way was the league going to allow Wilson to outshine Luck.

No way was the league going to allow the Seahawks to trample the 49ers once again. Their prize Rivalry.. if 49ers lose, they risk not making the Play-Offs. The NFL wants both story lines in the post-season, they would cash in like crazy with a Seahawks-49er NFC CG.

The main problem I have with both the Colts game and 49ers game, both ref crews called an OPI on Tate after a huge play.

Both ref crews kept pulling out the flags to help advance the opposition down the field especially in crucial 3rd down plays.

Both ref crews clearly were gunning for the Seahawks secondary, yet they chose to disregard if the other team's WRs getting overly physical and pushing off. And chose to ignore similar fouls against the Seahawks WR.

The pattern of calling flags to remove key moments or not being consistent with the calls overall in both games smells like a conspiracy.


How comical, another conspiracy. Let's see the Seahawks are the 2nd most penalized team in the entire NFL. Is it remotely possible that the Seahawks were doing what they have been doing the whole season? Getting tons of penalties, its not just a one game thing. Its now a 13 game thing, or "a trend". Its always something with the Seahawks, the refs, the time of day, the hot weather in Carolina, short week, morning game , night game. Write a letter to NFL an let them know the appropriate time, venue and day youd like to play. Maybe they can accomodate y'all. Im starting to see why you had your NBA team taken away, you have no NHL team and your baseball team is as irrelevent as a AA minor league team. It was a hard fought game between 2 great teams. The 49ers have won 5 out of the last 7 times we have played. There was no reason to think they couldnt win a game against you guys at home.
Wow, some major league trolling there. Your lucky I don't control the ban hammer there Junior, or you would have been a victim of it. Convenient how these ninnies trolls show up after a win but when they get blown out up here by 25+ Points every time they are nowhere to be found. Cowards!
 

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Polaris":eka0nx3x said:
lukerguy":eka0nx3x said:
There were bad calls both ways. Maxwell clearly face guarded Crabtree at the 3 yard line- there's no doubt it should have been PI.

Faceguarding is legal.

The problem wasn't the face guarding. The problem was the contact made while the ball was in the air. If he is to make contact, any contact, before the ball gets to the receiver, the defender must be looking for the ball.
 

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Everyone who read the story knows Sherm did not blame the refs for the loss..
 

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RiverDog":7onps9i7 said:
Polaris":7onps9i7 said:
lukerguy":7onps9i7 said:
There were bad calls both ways. Maxwell clearly face guarded Crabtree at the 3 yard line- there's no doubt it should have been PI.

Faceguarding is legal.

The problem wasn't the face guarding. The problem was the contact made while the ball was in the air. If he is to make contact, any contact, before the ball gets to the receiver, the defender must be looking for the ball.

Ok, I agree with that. It's just a lot of fans think stuff is PI (like faceguarding) when it isn't.
 

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Marvin49":1k9h4s35 said:
Vandelay":1k9h4s35 said:
Pandion Haliaetus":1k9h4s35 said:
Its becoming painfully obvious the NFL is trying to sell a show.

This game stinks of the Colts game.

No way was the league going to allow Wilson to outshine Luck.

No way was the league going to allow the Seahawks to trample the 49ers once again. Their prize Rivalry.. if 49ers lose, they risk not making the Play-Offs. The NFL wants both story lines in the post-season, they would cash in like crazy with a Seahawks-49er NFC CG.

The main problem I have with both the Colts game and 49ers game, both ref crews called an OPI on Tate after a huge play.

Both ref crews kept pulling out the flags to help advance the opposition down the field especially in crucial 3rd down plays.

Both ref crews clearly were gunning for the Seahawks secondary, yet they chose to disregard if the other team's WRs getting overly physical and pushing off. And chose to ignore similar fouls against the Seahawks WR.

The pattern of calling flags to remove key moments or not being consistent with the calls overall in both games smells like a conspiracy.


How comical, another conspiracy. Let's see the Seahawks are the 2nd most penalized team in the entire NFL. Is it remotely possible that the Seahawks were doing what they have been doing the whole season? Getting tons of penalties, its not just a one game thing. Its now a 13 game thing, or "a trend". Its always something with the Seahawks, the refs, the time of day, the hot weather in Carolina, short week, morning game , night game. Write a letter to NFL an let them know the appropriate time, venue and day youd like to play. Maybe they can accomodate y'all. Im starting to see why you had your NBA team taken away, you have no NHL team and your baseball team is as irrelevent as a AA minor league team. It was a hard fought game between 2 great teams. The 49ers have won 5 out of the last 7 times we have played. There was no reason to think they couldnt win a game against you guys at home.

Sigh.

Agreed.

Seattle has lost a grand total of TWO games this year and its a conspiracy?

Sigh.
Sigh.

Go back to the webzone.

Sigh.
 

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Whatever, I think most sane people are done blaming refs. They screw calls up all the time (plus they're still human with emotions that skews their view of players and venues in every game) and the NFL doesn't care about their quality in officiating (like a ref blowing the whistle when the player is still driving forward, then he fumbles, but the ref says the play was over). They make that painfully obvious by not hiding the fact that they don't hold anyone accountable for their mistakes week after week. Nothing will change until ratings and dollars drop and even then I doubt it.

As far as this game goes, The Seahawks had two chances to put this game away in the forth and they didn't. When Tate returns that punt inside the 30 and the offense was handed a great opportunity to make it a five point game with a TD and force the Niners to score a TD to win. They settled for a FG and put it on the defense (AGAIN). Then the defense had a chance to stop the Niners and proceeded to give up a huge run. After that they still had a chance to get the ball back with around 3 minutes left and being down only 2, but the D folded again and gave up a first down to the Niners and that let them drain the clock. Oh and not to mention the whole not having any timeouts (coaching).

It was a close, hard fought game and with a break or two going the Seahawks way they win, but they didn't. Seattle NEEDS to find a way to eliminate so many DUMB penilties (especially on the road against GOOD teams). It may not cost them at home, but on the road against quality teams it will cost them again (maybe in the Superbowl).
 

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RiverDog":2jxbc0n4 said:
Axx":2jxbc0n4 said:
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21144239&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fm.bleacherreport.com%2Fseattle-seahawks

I didn't see Sherman's statement as "blaming" the refs, he simply was noting that they benefited from the penalties, which was a fact. I also think that the Niners constant whining about the Hawks style of play had a psychological effect on the refs, and kudos to the Niners for that ploy. It sure paid off for them.

This is WITHOUT A DOUBT true. I dont think anyone will deny the constant barrage of crying and whining that Harbaugh and the 49ers fans/players do regarding the Seahawks defense. They have picked a meme, given it momentum with their constant whining/crying, and now the media has jumped on the boat. This is a horrible set of circumstances. I think it's obvious that the Hawks are the best team in the league, but to win a superbowl, they will have to overcome the refs and the league.

It's not so much that there is a conspiracy against the Seahawks by the league. It's that the meme has been created by Harbaugh's crying/whining, the media has taken the story and run with it, and now the league is trying to "do something about it." Perception is the force not reality. Harbaugh is a smart guy, he is not beyond using every underhanded cheating tactic in the book, and one of them is to attempt to get favorable calls from the league by crying/whining for an extended period.

Pete Carroll isn't on Harbaugh's level in my opinion, because he needs to combat this in the media as well. But he is too docile for this tactic.
 

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dunceface":5a83v715 said:
I love that the niner trolls have finally come back

Squeaking a game out in the final seconds AT HOME with the help of the refs has now become 49er fans' superbowl...wow, it's a shame how the mighty have fallen, lol.

I highly doubt 49er fans were like this in the time of Montana. You didn't have to be, you were winners back then. But now that the team has fallen to such depths, they will take anything as a superbowl.
 

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plyka":1to45jyj said:
RiverDog":1to45jyj said:
Axx":1to45jyj said:
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21144239&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fm.bleacherreport.com%2Fseattle-seahawks

I didn't see Sherman's statement as "blaming" the refs, he simply was noting that they benefited from the penalties, which was a fact. I also think that the Niners constant whining about the Hawks style of play had a psychological effect on the refs, and kudos to the Niners for that ploy. It sure paid off for them.

This is WITHOUT A DOUBT true. I dont think anyone will deny the constant barrage of crying and whining that Harbaugh and the 49ers fans/players do regarding the Seahawks defense. They have picked a meme, given it momentum with their constant whining/crying, and now the media has jumped on the boat. This is a horrible set of circumstances. I think it's obvious that the Hawks are the best team in the league, but to win a superbowl, they will have to overcome the refs and the league.

It's not so much that there is a conspiracy against the Seahawks by the league. It's that the meme has been created by Harbaugh's crying/whining, the media has taken the story and run with it, and now the league is trying to "do something about it." Perception is the force not reality. Harbaugh is a smart guy, he is not beyond using every underhanded cheating tactic in the book, and one of them is to attempt to get favorable calls from the league by crying/whining for an extended period.

Pete Carroll isn't on Harbaugh's level in my opinion, because he needs to combat this in the media as well. But he is too docile for this tactic.[/quote]

That's part of Pete's make up. He's the quintessential politician. It keeps him out of trouble as he never sticks his foot in his mouth as Harbaugh is always doing and he's never going to get rapped on the knuckles by the league like a lot of other coaches do, but it does come with its downside in that he can't ever call a spade a spade, at least not in a formal setting like a press conference.
 

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plyka":1j96hblp said:
RiverDog":1j96hblp said:
Axx":1j96hblp said:
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21144239&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fm.bleacherreport.com%2Fseattle-seahawks

I didn't see Sherman's statement as "blaming" the refs, he simply was noting that they benefited from the penalties, which was a fact. I also think that the Niners constant whining about the Hawks style of play had a psychological effect on the refs, and kudos to the Niners for that ploy. It sure paid off for them.

This is WITHOUT A DOUBT true. I dont think anyone will deny the constant barrage of crying and whining that Harbaugh and the 49ers fans/players do regarding the Seahawks defense. They have picked a meme, given it momentum with their constant whining/crying, and now the media has jumped on the boat. This is a horrible set of circumstances. I think it's obvious that the Hawks are the best team in the league, but to win a superbowl, they will have to overcome the refs and the league.

It's not so much that there is a conspiracy against the Seahawks by the league. It's that the meme has been created by Harbaugh's crying/whining, the media has taken the story and run with it, and now the league is trying to "do something about it." Perception is the force not reality. Harbaugh is a smart guy, he is not beyond using every underhanded cheating tactic in the book, and one of them is to attempt to get favorable calls from the league by crying/whining for an extended period.

Pete Carroll isn't on Harbaugh's level in my opinion, because he needs to combat this in the media as well. But he is too docile for this tactic.

The conspiracy theories are out in full force after a tough loss in true homer fashion... Wow.

1. We lost to a good team, on the road, on a short week. Period. The end.

2. It's no secret that our DB "bend" the rules in their favor from time to time... if it's no secret to us, then it's no secret to anybody, right? I have no problem with the flags in this game, as I believe the officiating was fairly even. For example, a no call on the PI against Crabtree was a huge break for the Hawks as that was an obvious PI that didn't get called, etc., etc....

Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill, shall we?
 

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Vandelay":3czws0st said:
Pandion Haliaetus":3czws0st said:
Its becoming painfully obvious the NFL is trying to sell a show.

This game stinks of the Colts game.

No way was the league going to allow Wilson to outshine Luck.

No way was the league going to allow the Seahawks to trample the 49ers once again. Their prize Rivalry.. if 49ers lose, they risk not making the Play-Offs. The NFL wants both story lines in the post-season, they would cash in like crazy with a Seahawks-49er NFC CG.

The main problem I have with both the Colts game and 49ers game, both ref crews called an OPI on Tate after a huge play.

Both ref crews kept pulling out the flags to help advance the opposition down the field especially in crucial 3rd down plays.

Both ref crews clearly were gunning for the Seahawks secondary, yet they chose to disregard if the other team's WRs getting overly physical and pushing off. And chose to ignore similar fouls against the Seahawks WR.

The pattern of calling flags to remove key moments or not being consistent with the calls overall in both games smells like a conspiracy.


How comical, another conspiracy. Let's see the Seahawks are the 2nd most penalized team in the entire NFL. Is it remotely possible that the Seahawks were doing what they have been doing the whole season? Getting tons of penalties, its not just a one game thing. Its now a 13 game thing, or "a trend". Its always something with the Seahawks, the refs, the time of day, the hot weather in Carolina, short week, morning game , night game. Write a letter to NFL an let them know the appropriate time, venue and day youd like to play. Maybe they can accomodate y'all. Im starting to see why you had your NBA team taken away, you have no NHL team and your baseball team is as irrelevent as a AA minor league team. It was a hard fought game between 2 great teams. The 49ers have won 5 out of the last 7 times we have played. There was no reason to think they couldnt win a game against you guys at home.
It's funny, now that I think back on it......... I remember you ninnies trolls crying a river after the game in New Orleans on a legit roughing the passer call. Saying it cost you the game!

Ain't that a bitch! LMAO!

You need to take your hypocritical keister back to the webzone where you belong!
 

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Sarlacc83":3gdmxil4 said:
The irony of 49ers fans arguing for the referees' competency is killing me.
Especially after they cried and bitched after they lost in New Orleans on a legit roughing the passer call. Hypocrites!
 

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RiverDog":22vszpm0 said:
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Every niner scoring drive was kept alive at some point by a dicey flag. We had several "exposion" plays called back and several drives taken off schedule by penalties.

I disagree that they were all "dicey." Our DB's do play loose with the rules. It's fair to say that the Niners got the benefit of the doubt on some plays. We got away with some on other plays.


This, you guys had 9 penalties vs our 7. Not a huge difference, missed calls on both sides.
 

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NorCalSeahawk":14e05vc8 said:
Whatever, I think most sane people are done blaming refs. They screw calls up all the time (plus they're still human with emotions that skews their view of players and venues in every game) and the NFL doesn't care about their quality in officiating (like a ref blowing the whistle when the player is still driving forward, then he fumbles, but the ref says the play was over). They make that painfully obvious by not hiding the fact that they don't hold anyone accountable for their mistakes week after week. Nothing will change until ratings and dollars drop and even then I doubt it.

As far as this game goes, The Seahawks had two chances to put this game away in the forth and they didn't. When Tate returns that punt inside the 30 and the offense was handed a great opportunity to make it a five point game with a TD and force the Niners to score a TD to win. They settled for a FG and put it on the defense (AGAIN). Then the defense had a chance to stop the Niners and proceeded to give up a huge run. After that they still had a chance to get the ball back with around 3 minutes left and being down only 2, but the D folded again and gave up a first down to the Niners and that let them drain the clock. Oh and not to mention the whole not having any timeouts (coaching).

It was a close, hard fought game and with a break or two going the Seahawks way they win, but they didn't. Seattle NEEDS to find a way to eliminate so many DUMB penilties (especially on the road against GOOD teams). It may not cost them at home, but on the road against quality teams it will cost them again (maybe in the Superbowl).

I totally agree, we had chances to win this game, officiating be damned. I don't "blame" the officials, but anyone who watched the game would have to concede it wasn't very well officiated. I think you have to allow officials some wiggle room for human error, but it's when they seem to make errors that shouldn't be made is when it gets a little frustrating and the fans lash out. Yea yea, some fans lash out at EVERY call, but that's not where I was going with this.

There were two particular calls that made absolutely zero sense in my opinion

1) Wilson's non-timeout. I understand how an official may not see or hear a coach on the sideline, because their eyes are supposed to be on the game, but for an official to not see a qb signal for timeout during the pre-snap, is utterly ridiculous. There should be at least one set of eyes on the QB/Center exchange at all times and as soon as Wilson signaled he should have got his timeout.

2) the one mentioned earlier and most often, when the official literally pointed to his own butt when showing that the player was down by contact because his butt had hit the turf before the fumble occurred. As soon as the official calls this, there is no way they should be allowed to turn around and say it was forward progress. It was clear to everyone that the official said down by contact and NOT forward progress. To change this call when there was about to be a challenge is simply very very poor officiating to say the least.

The rest of the calls, there were lots of non-calls (and rightfully so IMO) and some really good and easy calls and some more ticky-tack type calls that were what they were. As I said earlier, we blew opportunities to overcome those problems, but for anyone not to see that those to specific examples listed here were blatantly horrible calls is ludicrous
 

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Sports Hernia":28lf6xx8 said:
Sarlacc83":28lf6xx8 said:
The irony of 49ers fans arguing for the referees' competency is killing me.
Especially after they cried and bitched after they lost in New Orleans on a legit roughing the passer call. Hypocrites!

My bitch is with the consistancy, in the NOLA game Kaep got headlock tackled and no call. I dont care if shit gets called both ways, and I think the league is turning the NFL into a flag football league.

If that was your D putting the same hit on Breez you would have been pissed too.
 

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The fair catch interference was the stupidest penalty of ours. Those are the types of penalties that drive me nuts.

Most of the Niner whining about the NOLA game was of the roughing the passer penalty against Brees. If you don't like that call and think you got robbed this season, please go back to last season and our game against the Dolphins when Earl Thomas got a PF for touching Tannehill on the helmut. Had that play been correctly called, we would have won that game and with it, the division and the Niners would have had to come through us in our house to get to the SB.

So what goes around, comes around.
 

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Anything that Sherm does or says that could be taken negatively, will be. He was getting better for a while, but here it is again. Although I do love his fun personality, sometimes I wish he'd just go in robot Mr. Wilson mode. If we make the SB, the Seahawks may be the first non-sb winning team that everyone will still root against, and that kind of sucks.
 

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ZagHawk":20o8l1nz said:
Anything that Sherm does or says that could be taken negatively, will be. He was getting better for a while, but here it is again. Although I do love his fun personality, sometimes I wish he'd just go in robot Mr. Wilson mode. If we make the SB, the Seahawks may be the first non-sb winning team that everyone will still root against, and that kind of sucks.

Get used to it. Our Seahawks are the "Raiders" of the 21st century...and I mean the Raiders of the 1980s but before it became 'cool'. IMHO anyway.
 

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ZagHawk":3hf6yz3n said:
Anything that Sherm does or says that could be taken negatively, will be. He was getting better for a while, but here it is again. Although I do love his fun personality, sometimes I wish he'd just go in robot Mr. Wilson mode. If we make the SB, the Seahawks may be the first non-sb winning team that everyone will still root against, and that kind of sucks.

I agree... wish he would just STFU and play... The way he is portrayed (and rightfully so, unfortunately) by the media just gives this team/organization a big black eye.

Seriously, Richard... please for the sake of the fans and this team, pull your head outta your ass!!!
 

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Sherman needs to stop piping up and start manning up. He wants to be regarded as the best corner in the league, he hasn't been that the past several weeks. He's getting stupid penalties. Not what the best corner in the league does.
 
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