sherman blames the refs

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9ersfaninNY":1z3cn2n8 said:
brimsalabim":1z3cn2n8 said:
Every niner scoring drive was kept alive at some point by a dicey flag. We had several "exposion" plays called back and several drives taken off schedule by penalties.


You mad bro?

Why would anyone in here be mad? We have a two game lead with 3 to go. We're just mad that we can't go 18-1, guess we'll have to settle for 17-2.

You know how when you win, you can say "scoreboard"? How about this????

NFC WEST STANDINGS

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I love that the niner trolls have finally come back
 

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TzarokHawkFan":52si4so3 said:
My problem with the officiating wasn't that is was lopsided, it was that they would throw flags at non-penalties, and then miss blatant calls. However, this went both ways and our guys need to play more disciplined ball. We lost. Congrats to the 49ers. Let's do it again in January, eh?
This, all in all I'm on record as seeing both teams have some crappy calls go against us - ours just seemed to happen at crappy times - a couple extended drives for the 49ers and a couple negated big plays for us - I honestly don't see it as a conspiracy....just poor officiating...and ultimately it probably hurt us more. Also, I agree with Riverdog and think that Sherman was saying what he and I are basically saying here.
 

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9ersfaninNY":1oubv2td said:
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Every niner scoring drive was kept alive at some point by a dicey flag. We had several "exposion" plays called back and several drives taken off schedule by penalties.


You mad bro?

no at least not at niners. It was up to our guys to adjust to the way the game was being called. We didn't change a thing and it cost us a win at stick.
 

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dunceface":2h32p4o7 said:
I love that the niner trolls have finally come back

I know, haven't seen them forever! Now I'm seeing strange names pop up with little cute jabs...

I just want to pat their little heads. It's adorable.

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RiverDog":3etnk057 said:
TorontoHawk":3etnk057 said:
brimsalabim":3etnk057 said:
Every niner scoring drive was kept alive at some point by a dicey flag. We had several "exposion" plays called back and several drives taken off schedule by penalties.


You are insane, we lost the game as we could not take advantage of the turnover and only got a FG out of it, to blame the refs is like a ten year old complaining he did not get the same size of cake as the other kid, suck it up and look forward to the ass kicking we are going to give the Giants.

It wasn't a turnover that set up the FG. It was Tate's punt return. But I get your point.

You're absolutely right about the whining about the penalties. Sure, we had some go against us, but that's the risk we take when we adopt the style of defense we play. There were a number of factors besides the penalties that had game altering implications.
I didn't mean to imply that we were some how cheated. Failure to adjust to the way the game was being called is on us. If anything we beat our selves.
 

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His quote was unfortunate in my mind. He can be a great spokesman at times, others he can seem a little petulant.

I look at the KIRO interview of Tate as an example of how a quick sound bite is turned into a national story. Ran for a week on how Tate was calling out his selfish team-mates. Not entirely how I heard it but the printed words could not be disputed.

A few years ago, Sherm's comment would have been a throw-away quote. Now it is a big item on all the sports networks feeds.

He is what he is, so you take the bitter with the sweet. The guy has a good heart as far as charitable efforts but he has a chip on his shoulder that fuels him and is eagerly reported by those looking for quotes to use and judge him on.
 

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It's just to give Skip Bayless something to talk about this morning.
 

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Vandelay":1ztbbq29 said:
Pandion Haliaetus":1ztbbq29 said:
Its becoming painfully obvious the NFL is trying to sell a show.

This game stinks of the Colts game.

No way was the league going to allow Wilson to outshine Luck.

No way was the league going to allow the Seahawks to trample the 49ers once again. Their prize Rivalry.. if 49ers lose, they risk not making the Play-Offs. The NFL wants both story lines in the post-season, they would cash in like crazy with a Seahawks-49er NFC CG.

The main problem I have with both the Colts game and 49ers game, both ref crews called an OPI on Tate after a huge play.

Both ref crews kept pulling out the flags to help advance the opposition down the field especially in crucial 3rd down plays.

Both ref crews clearly were gunning for the Seahawks secondary, yet they chose to disregard if the other team's WRs getting overly physical and pushing off. And chose to ignore similar fouls against the Seahawks WR.

The pattern of calling flags to remove key moments or not being consistent with the calls overall in both games smells like a conspiracy.


How comical, another conspiracy. Let's see the Seahawks are the 2nd most penalized team in the entire NFL. Is it remotely possible that the Seahawks were doing what they have been doing the whole season? Getting tons of penalties, its not just a one game thing. Its now a 13 game thing, or "a trend". Its always something with the Seahawks, the refs, the time of day, the hot weather in Carolina, short week, morning game , night game. Write a letter to NFL an let them know the appropriate time, venue and day youd like to play. Maybe they can accomodate y'all. Im starting to see why you had your NBA team taken away, you have no NHL team and your baseball team is as irrelevent as a AA minor league team. It was a hard fought game between 2 great teams. The 49ers have won 5 out of the last 7 times we have played. There was no reason to think they couldnt win a game against you guys at home.

Sigh.

Agreed.

Seattle has lost a grand total of TWO games this year and its a conspiracy?

Sigh.
 

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It is becoming clear that you can beat seattle by lobbying the referees. Harbaugh does this every game to the degree of being blatant. he isn't a guy that is good at mincing words so you get passive aggressive stuff like "I'm not saying these guys are holding but...." and campaigns ALL GAME which would make any ref eventually start to at least look a little closer.
 

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I love Sherm but come on man, blaming the refs and not giving your opponent any credit is very Harbaugh like. Geez dude, no need to say "we expected a blowout"
 

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Not impressed with Sherman here. His trash talking is hilarious at times but this wis childish.
 

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There were bad calls both ways. Maxwell clearly face guarded Crabtree at the 3 yard line- there's no doubt it should have been PI.

I think it's pretty bush league of Sherman to blame officials. It wasn't the best officiated game, but there were bad calls on both sides.
 

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Ninerfan please quit using the Sherman holds on every play excuse....It makes a fan base sound stupid. Its funny that no opposing players complain of this. Michael Irvin did a film breakdown of Sherman and actually argued against this point. Only niner fans make this argument and I don't blame you because your passing offense looks terrible against our pass defense even at home. But give credit where credit is due.
 

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On two third downs we had you off the field , then out comes the flag a hold on Sherman that was BS and a hold on Maxwell that was BS. That's ten points that the Refs set up for you and a big reason the game played out as it did. There were a bunch of other garbage calls yesterday . You can't win against Seattle without help deal with it.
 

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The Whiners are pathetic.

Let's not become just like them.

Sherm... stuff a sock in it and let's get 'em next time... be it this year or next.
 

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There were bad calls both ways. Maxwell clearly face guarded Crabtree at the 3 yard line- there's no doubt it should have been PI.

Faceguarding is legal.
 

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Seeker":oujx1u1n said:
It is becoming clear that you can beat seattle by lobbying the referees. Harbaugh does this every game to the degree of being blatant. he isn't a guy that is good at mincing words so you get passive aggressive stuff like "I'm not saying these guys are holding but...." and campaigns ALL GAME which would make any ref eventually start to at least look a little closer.

It is a bit over the top. Excellent coaching or is this done to make up what is lacked? Either way I would have like the refs to watch the line as much as the db's. What would have been a fun game, win or lose, to watch was ruined by poor officiating.
Also, where did all the niner fans come from? The petition get the signatures needed?
 

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Polaris":1wdh0cyw said:
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There were bad calls both ways. Maxwell clearly face guarded Crabtree at the 3 yard line- there's no doubt it should have been PI.

Faceguarding is legal.

No it's not, if you make contact with a player and don't attempt to look back at the ball, that's PI 10-10 times.

perhaps the verbiage of face guarding isn't, but as soon as you make contact it's PI.

When Face Guarding Becomes Pass Interference
If the defender makes physical contact with a receiver while trying to block his view of the football before the ball arrives, that is considered pass interference. The penalty is for pass interference, not for face guarding.
 

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lukerguy":2poh4lyt said:
Polaris":2poh4lyt said:
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There were bad calls both ways. Maxwell clearly face guarded Crabtree at the 3 yard line- there's no doubt it should have been PI.

Faceguarding is legal.

No it's not, if you make contact with a player and don't attempt to look back at the ball, that's PI 10-10 times.

That's not faceguarding. Faceguarding is putting your hands/arms in front of the receiver's face to obscure vision. Totally legal.

Also technically you ARE allowed to make contact. This is part of the rules us fans often get wrong. What you are *not* allowed to do is affect the receiver's motion. Even a lot of refs get this wrong. In fact the NFL refs guide even states that if there is any doubt as to whether or not the contact affected the receiver, a penalty should not be called. It's a grey area in the rules that our defense relies on.

Edit PS: As your edit notes, the faceguarding itself is totall legal like I've said. It's the contact that makes it PI in that case NOT faceguarding.

What I said was completely true.
 
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