Saints fan assaulted last night at the game

[HansGruber]

Questions, anyone?

AlaskaSaints

Why do you lie? Do you think any real Seahawks fan believes you?

What section were you in? Where did the assault happen? How did the assault happen without anyone seeing it?

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

Well, the Saints OP has posted before-and-after pictures, so I'm pretty sure *something* happened. And personally, I wasn't really skeptical of that at all. Things happen when large crowds mix with alcohol, emotions and neo-tribal furor, something that's been mentioned repeatedly in this thread and something we all probably agree on. It's the lack of detail in the original story that was eyebrow-raising to me. It's hard to imagine a couple wandering the stadium looking for a woman to pick a fight with, which is more-or-less what's been presented.

We could speculate endlessly about what happened, and in fact we are almost invited to by the scant amount of detail that's been provided. Was she tracked and assaulted by this predatory couple? Was it an innocent bump in line that escalated to unacceptable levels? Something in between? We just have no idea. And the OP's (somewhat understandable) internet tough guy act and silly political posturing don't really help make things clearer.

 

[AlaskaSaints]

I'd also like to know where the police report is. Working on that. Century Link is non-responsive thus far, but they ejected the fans (a male/female couple) who was sitting forward and right of my wife, who was in 212 P 1.

She sat out the remainder of the game - in somewhat a state of shock - as she is a lady and not a fighter.

I am in Anchorage, yes. None of your business where I am.

I have two calls to whom I was told is the Director of Security, Daryl Niles, today. Left him two messages, with details and requested that he provide me with the location of a generated report. No answer.

Alaska

 

[HansGruber]

Questions, anyone?

AlaskaSaints

1) Why do you refuse the Seattle Police Dept's offer to help?
2) What is the name of the lawyer assisting you?
3) What section were you in?
4) What vendor stands were in that section?
5) Where did the assault occur, was it an inside or outside bathroom (relative to the concourse)?
6) Where are the bathrooms located in that section - closer to the seats or closer to the outside wall?
7) Was the bathroom near the ramps?

I'll bet you can't answer one of those questions. And there are reasons I ask them, and I'm willing to bet you don't even know why I'd ask - because you're not familiar enough with the Clink and how it is policed to even understand how that stuff would be important.

Most of all, I want to know how it is possible that a woman could be punched near the restrooms without the police noticing, when the police are posted near all restrooms on the 300 level for that very reason. There are additional police posted at the ramps and at the entrances to seating. Almost all women's bathrooms on the 300 level are located to the left of seating entrance tunnels, which is right where the cops hang out. It is nearly impossible that a fight could occur at a restroom line without being seen by a police officer or alcohol enforcement (although alcohol enforcement tend to stand out near the seating at the end of the entrance tunnels so they can monitor the stands).

I'm not saying there's a chance your lying, I'm saying you ARE lying. And where's a photo of your ticket? Photos of your wife in the stadium?

PS - if your wife was punched, perhaps you should talk to her about not being drunk and belligerent at football games in the future. Just a tip.

 

[Scottemojo]

I'd also like to know where the police report is. Working on that. Century Link is non-responsive thus far, but they ejected the fans (a male/female couple) who was sitting forward and right of my wife, who was in 212 P 1.

She sat out the remainder of the game - in somewhat a state of shock - as she is a lady and not a fighter.

I am in Anchorage, yes. None of your business where I am.

I have two calls to whom I was told is the Director of Security, Daryl Niles, today. Left him two messages, with details and requested that he provide me with the location of a generated report. No answer.

Alaska

So, on one of your Saints sites you were misogynistic about red headed women, talked political bullshit about the entire city, started your posts by insulting an entire fanbase, refused help from the Seattle PD because it did not come in the form you desired, and threatened that there will be blood.

Also, if I understand correctly, you weren't actually at the game yourself, so your account of events is second hand. Can you see why some fans have not received your insults or accounts of events with grace?

 

[JGfromtheNW]

He actually did post a picture of his wife taken at the Clink. It was a selfie in front of the wall of Washington football helmets. It is on page seven of the original thread over at B&G.

 

[HansGruber]

I'd also like to know where the police report is. Working on that. Century Link is non-responsive thus far, but they ejected the fans (a male/female couple) who was sitting forward and right of my wife, who was in 212 P 1.

She sat out the remainder of the game - in somewhat a state of shock - as she is a lady and not a fighter.

I am in Anchorage, yes. None of your business where I am.

I have two calls to whom I was told is the Director of Security, Daryl Niles, today. Left him two messages, with details and requested that he provide me with the location of a generated report. No answer.

Alaska

You are a liar.

The Seattle Police have already reached out to you and offered assistance. Any report about a fight at CenturyLink would be handled by the Seattle Police Department and they have already told you that. They have offered to help you with a report and flat-out told you that no reports were ever filed.

Stadium security would not be responsible for any incident at the Stadium and would have referred you to SPD. I know this because I once lost my wallet at the stadium, someone used my credit card, and I had to file a report. Stadium security referred me to the SPD the same way they would have referred you, had you actually contacted them.

Your lies work on some of the people here who never attend games. I've been a season ticket holder for over 20 years, so I know that you are lying based on what you've said and how you've responded to the appropriate channels for your complaint.

The reason you ignored the Seattle Police Dept's offer to help you is because filing a false police report is a crime, and you aren't stupid enough to do that. But you are a troll, so you come here anyway and expect us to believe you.

Be gone, lying troll-wart.

 

[AlaskaSaints]

She states the female offender once walked by her and jeered at her. My wife ignored that, I mean, what does she do? She's a visitor in a crowd of Seahawks fans, including the three she went to the game with. In Alaska, you know plenty of Seahawks fans, you see...

Sometime toward the beginning of the third quarter she rose to go to the restroom. While standing in line outside the ladies restroom she was approached head-on by the male, who punched or elbowed her in the stomach from the front. After he passed his female accomplice elbowed her in her nose/eye. Of course, my question to her is why didn't you hit someone, but my wife was probably so horrified and that is not the way she would respond, honestly. My next question of her was if anyone saw it. She states that everyone around her saw it and no on said a word.

When she returned to her seat, according to her, she was bawling. Her friend and the two season ticket holders with them went and got security as the offenders were right there forward and right of her.

The rest is what I'm seeking.

Security removed the offenders from the game. But to where?

My wife got home from Seattle near midnight last night and went to work at 9 a.m. today. Honestly, I have not fully grilled her as she is pretty much shook up about being assaulted. Some women act that way.

She went to Link Security yesterday to get a report. Was told that such things take up to 72 hours to generate. Ridiculous.

What I want: The offenders to get a misdemeanor assault charge.

She and I travel to games every year. At least two. I was there at the massacre in the playoffs a couple years ago and honestly, really, I almost had to fight my way out of the restroom myself. I sat on the 50, ten rows off the field in some friends' seats. You've got some of the rudest fans in the league and you guys need to police that. Win with grace and lose with grace.

I'm at the Dome a couple times a year for home games. I ALWAYS assure the visiting fans around me that they can cheer as loudly as they please, without any trouble because we have class. I would vigorously defend any fan whom I saw being mistreated in New Orleans. I grew up in NOLA. It's a very friendly place to be a visiting fan.

Sorry, fellas, but it is what it is...

Alaska

 

[HansGruber]

He actually did post a picture of his wife taken at the Clink. It was a selfie in front of the wall of Washington football helmets. It is on page seven of the original thread over at B&G.

Means nothing.

His wife was not punched at the game, or there would have been a report of it. What's hilarious is this redneck buffoon expects anyone to believe that someone could punch a woman in the face, while a few hundred people stand there and watch without at least one of them grabbing a cop who'd be standing only a few feet away. Which just adds another element of BS to his story. Why would any cop just stand there and do nothing?

There are at least 4 different security officers of some type outside and inside of every seating entrance and out on the concourse. There are additional police outside of all the restrooms. All you have to do is go to a game and see for yourself. See how far you can walk without seeing someone in a yellow, red or black jacket (yellow = alcohol enforcement, red = security, black = cops).

I don't buy the story for a single second. He's lying and he refuses to answer any substantive questions or respond to offers of real assistance from the Seattle Police. Which is only something a liar would do.

 

[Scottemojo]

Why the respect here, but not on some other site? Here you want two fans prosecuted, and properly so. There, you want blood.
Here you act with respect. There you call Seattle a liberal whatever.
Here you want to prosecute. There you refused police help.

Why?

 

[AlaskaSaints]

2008. Saints 0-4. We defeat you guys and same thing. I sat high 50 on the visitor side. Saw a Saint fan sucker punched near the gate on the parking lot side after the game.

Seriously? It's just a game and you know what? YOU and I don't play.

Like I said, win with grace, lose with grace.

Alaska

 

[AlaskaSaints]

On your home board, it's your home board. They know me there. I'm not gonna BLEED anybody unless I was there when this happened. I'd be in jail if that were the case as Marines don't take too well to their wives being beat up.

Ah, Seattle is a VERY liberal city. It doesn't get any more liberal than Seattle. Well, maybe Portland.

I cannot call the police. I am not the victim. My wife's attorney will be contacting them, however.

Alaska

 

[253hawk]

I don't even...what?

 

[HansGruber]

She states the female offender once walked by her and jeered at her. My wife ignored that, I mean, what does she do? She's a visitor in a crowd of Seahawks fans, including the three she went to the game with. In Alaska, you know plenty of Seahawks fans, you see...

Sometime toward the beginning of the third quarter she rose to go to the restroom. While standing in line outside the ladies restroom she was approached head-on by the male, who punched or elbowed her in the stomach from the front. After he passed his female accomplice elbowed her in her nose/eye. Of course, my question to her is why didn't you hit someone, but my wife was probably so horrified and that is not the way she would respond, honestly. My next question of her was if anyone saw it. She states that everyone around her saw it and no on said a word.

When she returned to her seat, according to her, she was bawling. Her friend and the two season ticket holders with them went and got security as the offenders were right there forward and right of her.

The rest is what I'm seeking.

Security removed the offenders from the game. But to where?

My wife got home from Seattle near midnight last night and went to work at 9 a.m. today. Honestly, I have not fully grilled her as she is pretty much shook up about being assaulted. Some women act that way.

She went to Link Security yesterday to get a report. Was told that such things take up to 72 hours to generate. Ridiculous.

What I want: The offenders to get a misdemeanor assault charge.

She and I travel to games every year. At least two. I was there at the massacre in the playoffs a couple years ago and honestly, really, I almost had to fight my way out of the restroom myself. I sat on the 50, ten rows off the field in some friends' seats. You've got some of the rudest fans in the league and you guys need to police that. Win with grace and lose with grace.

I'm at the Dome a couple times a year for home games. I ALWAYS assure the visiting fans around me that they can cheer as loudly as they please, without any trouble because we have class. I would vigorously defend any fan whom I saw being mistreated in New Orleans. I grew up in NOLA. It's a very friendly place to be a visiting fan.

Sorry, fellas, but it is what it is...

Alaska

Now I KNOW you are lying.

Security at the stadium will remove anyone accused of assault. If your wife had a black eye or was crying, security would have notified the police who would have removed the perps immediately. When there is an accusation of assault, the police do NOT argue with fans - you are removed, taken to the concourse, and questioned there. Your wife would have been questioned, the perps would have been arrested, and the SPD would have a report of the incident. Even if the perps were only kicked out (which they would have, no matter what) - the SPD generates a report of the incident and stadium security ban you from the stadium. First offenses result in a 4-game ban IIRC.

But whaddya know? The Seattle Police are stating they have no report of this ever happening. Which means you are lying when you state that security got involved.

Second, all assaults at Century Link are IMMEDIATELY handed over to the Seattle Police Department. Stadium security has nothing to do with it. They will not respond to an assault other than to report it to Seattle Police on their handset, and then the cops come grab the goons. Further, they do not create reports, handle reports or do any reporting of any kind, because that is all handled by the Seattle Police Department.

Why have you not spoken to the Seattle Police Department?

Oh that's right, because you're a liar and a troll.

GTFO, attention-seeking pathetic lying troll.

 

[MLOhawks]

Is your wife annoying? It's possible she deserved it, just sayin.

 

[Blitzfan]

I can't believe what I'm reading. This thread makes me sicker than the original offense. Somebody gets assaulted by our fans, and our reaction is that they are lying, or they must have provoked it? Really?

Unfortunately, I can't afford anything better than the cheap seats, and I have seen these things all too often at our stadium, and much worse. Sorry for you folks in the club level, this stuff happens often.

There are quite a few 12's at the games that go looking for fights. I used to hang out with several of them. The growth of a rabid fanbase has consequences. We're not dealing with the highest common denominator.

If you think Seattle folks are too classy for this, you need a reality check. If you are somehow blaming this assault on the victim, you need to have your ass kicked.

Dude, seriously? Before you sit there and pass judgement, how about you try know something about what you're talking about....

We are talking about a single event, we are not generalizing the fan base in our stadium.

Go read this guy's posts on their site and see what he wrote leading up to the game. He talks about all the times he's been assaulted in Seattle, yet he sends his wife..... You really believe that? A couple of our members have already posted in this thread that there are NO bookings for this event in the King County Jail or Kent regional... last time I checked, you go to jail for assault. Dude says the two were followed to their seats and arrested. Look at the picture, why only one side of the face? From what I can see, the other eye looks the same. This event never happened as he stated it did.

No where, anywhere would any of us say that this type of thing does not happen, we all know it does. We are saying we doubt this event happened as he states. Your post is generalizing us the same way the Saints fans are on their board.

 

[dontbelikethat]

On your home board, it's your home board. They know me there. I'm not gonna BLEED anybody unless I was there when this happened. I'd be in jail if that were the case as Marines don't take too well to their wives being beat up.

Ah, Seattle is a VERY liberal city. It doesn't get any more liberal than Seattle. Well, maybe Portland.

I cannot call the police. I am not the victim. My wife's attorney will be contacting them, however.

Alaska

Can you answer the questions that were asked of you? You did ask if anyone had any questions, and people replied with questions. You just keep continuing to spew nonsense that has nothing to do with the situation.

 

[JGfromtheNW]

Dear He-man Alaska,

1. We don't have some of the rudest fans in the league. Hell, we don't even have the rudest in our own division. If you think that Century Link isn't one of the best and safest stadiums to go to, please stop coming to games here. I mean that, your money isn't worth the grievance. If you come to Seattle for games every year, like you stated above, and then you always get into altercations or see assaults at games, like you stated over on B&G in your original thread, STOP COMING TO GAMES AND DON'T SEND YOUR WIFE TO THEM WITHOUT YOU. HELLO?!?!?!

2. Don't tell us to win with grace and lose with grace. What type of arrogant BS is that? Get off your high horse. I am sorry that this happened to your wife, but you don't have to be a douche about it.

You imply that all Seahawks fans are bad apples and that we need to "win and lose with grace," and no one is going to care about your problems here.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

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[AlaskaSaints]

He actually did post a picture of his wife taken at the Clink. It was a selfie in front of the wall of Washington football helmets. It is on page seven of the original thread over at B&G.

Means nothing.

His wife was not punched at the game, or there would have been a report of it. What's hilarious is this redneck buffoon expects anyone to believe that someone could punch a woman in the face, while a few hundred people stand there and watch without at least one of them grabbing a cop who'd be standing only a few feet away. Which just adds another element of BS to his story. Why would any cop just stand there and do nothing?

There are at least 4 different security officers of some type outside and inside of every seating entrance and out on the concourse. There are additional police outside of all the restrooms. All you have to do is go to a game and see for yourself. See how far you can walk without seeing someone in a yellow, red or black jacket (yellow = alcohol enforcement, red = security, black = cops).

I don't buy the story for a single second. He's lying and he refuses to answer any substantive questions or respond to offers of real assistance from the Seattle Police. Which is only something a liar would do.

Your home board. Say or believe anything you want. Fabricated? Seriously? One of my wife's friends at the game was a Fed. She made sure this got handled.

Just an interested party (husband) looking for answers.

Alaska