Rashid Shaheed (Playing Armchair GM)

[glenwo2]

Sorry but I would sooner become a Rams fan than offer 15 mill per.

That is way too rich for my blood.


3 years, 30 mil would be reasonable. (maybe bump that up to 33 mill for 3 years for 11 mil per, if need be; then add incentives to get him up to 12 mil per year)

But of course I'm not JS so who knows....he might just give it to him...especially if Walker leaves.

 

[onanygivensunday]

If Walker leaves in FA, then my answer would be 'yes'. He's worth that much imo.

My 'no' threshold is in the neighborhood of $17-$18M/year.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

The Seahawks don’t win the TNF game against the Rams without Shaheed.

Special teams and field position is so impactful for the Seahawks defense as a whole with punting.

Shaheed, dictated everything on field positioning for the Seahawks when they were back on offense.

Shaheed, puts the offense in better scoring position because he was so vital on special teams. I think you gotta retain Shaheed just cause he is so important with field position he gives to the offense. You gotta pay Shaheed.

You don’t win close games without Shaheed on special teams.

Shaheed is worth the contact alone on special teams cause he is puts Seattle in better field positioning. I think that is incredibly underrated and almost under appreciated because now you expect just anyone can do this, but, no, these type of game changers aren’t guys that grow on trees.

 

[Bobblehead]

Like food prices going up, at some point your going to have to put up $18.00/lb for a ribeye, other wise, serving ground beef. m

Jennings $15 million/yr and he's not that good, I'd rather have Shaheed at that cost. Never the less, that's what we're paying now for midtier receivers.

 

[Runscott]

Like food prices going up, at some point your going to have to put up $18.00/lb for a ribeye, other wise, serving ground beef. m

Jennings $15 million/yr and he's not that good, I'd rather have Shaheed at that cost. Never the less, that's what we're paying now for midtier receivers.

Safeway Manager's Special bin, and stay away from the Wagyu. If Cooper Kupp were steak, that's where we found him.

 

[Bobblehead]

Safeway Manager's Special bin, and stay away from the Wagyu. If Cooper Kupp were steak, that's where we found him.

I"m a meat cutter there.. I know.

 

[Grahamhawker]

Geez. If 12/14 or whatever is too much for K9, how is 15 not too much for Shaheed? The way he was used in the offense he's a WR3, and likely more like 4th/5th in the target tree. He's obviously a dynamic returner, but ST's are more than just one guy. Seems like we may need to find the next one at that price. Horton had a higher return average, for ex. And literally every other returner near Shaheed's average is on a rookie deal iirc. His averages were not 15/ territory, nor was his TD rate. His timing was great on the two return TDs he had this year.

 

[hawkfan68]

The Seahawks don’t win the TNF game against the Rams without Shaheed.

Special teams and field position is so impactful for the Seahawks defense as a whole with punting.

Shaheed, dictated everything on field positioning for the Seahawks when they were back on offense.

Shaheed, puts the offense in better scoring position because he was so vital on special teams. I think you gotta retain Shaheed just cause he is so important with field position he gives to the offense. You gotta pay Shaheed.

You don’t win close games without Shaheed on special teams.

Shaheed is worth the contact alone on special teams cause he is puts Seattle in better field positioning. I think that is incredibly underrated and almost under appreciated because now you expect just anyone can do this, but, no, these type of game changers aren’t guys that grow on trees.

I don't get the logic of keeping a ST/returner at $15M year but letting a viable, productive rb go who costs $12-14/yr maybe less. Math doesn't add up here.

 

[Bobblehead]

I don't get the logic of keeping a ST/returner at $15M year but letting a viable, productive rb go who costs $12-14/yr maybe less. Math doesn't add up here.

Well you know, he may actually turn out to be a good receiver as well..soon as he's introduced to Sam Darnold.

 

[Runscott]

I"m a meat cutter there.. I know.

Man, if I was paying full price for meat, I would not be going to Seahawks games

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

Horton was playing very well before he got hurt and he's a similar player to Rashid. I dunno where the proper cutoff for Rashid is, but 15 mil a year definitely seems like too much.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

I don't get the logic of keeping a ST/returner at $15M year but letting a viable, productive rb go who costs $12-14/yr maybe less. Math doesn't add up here.

How does K9 perform at his best? You keep him from being ran into the ground by keeping his touches at a certain amount. It keeps him from getting injured and banged up, which is why Seattle used Charb, a lot as well, cause it kept K9 from also getting hurt.

Let’s say you pay K9, how much do you play K9 because now his contract dictates you gotta get your moneys worth for paying the guy. Do you still worry about K9 can possibly being ran into the ground? By playoff time, is K9, exhausted and beat up?

I think with Shaheed, if you don’t want or can’t justify paying a returner that much money, even though Shaheed will also play receiver and force safeties to continue to play high coverage, how do you replace an elite returner? Shaheed, can by himself, can the momentum of a lopsided game. That TNF game was looking rough until Shaheed took it back to the house. Seattle start out on offense in great spots because special teams with Shaheed puts Seattle in good positions.

Don’t think of it as only paying a returner big money, think of it as paying a player, cause he puts Darnold in better positions to succeed.

 

[Runscott]

Horton was playing very well before he got hurt and he's a similar player to Rashid. I dunno where the proper cutoff for Rashid is, but 15 mil a year definitely seems like too much.

There are a few players in the NFL who are pretty close to unique: Rasheed, McCaffrey, Michael Dickson, maybe Puka and JSN. I don't see the first two as really being replaceable. We have three of these studs, which is great.

 

[bileever]

I love Shaheed, but he's not worth $15 million per year.

After this year, opponents are going to avoid kicking to him as much as they can, reducing his value. As a recceiver, he just isn't as effective as other speedsters. Also, remember that Tory Horton had a long punt return for a TD before his injury. It's not only about Shaheed, it's about how well the special teams are coached.

Shaheed: 9 games, 15 receptions for 188 yards
Horton: 8 games (only 3 starts), 13 receptions for 161 yards

Punt returns:
Shaheed: 14.7 average, 1 TD
Horton: 14.9 average, 1 TD

 

[hawkfan68]

How does K9 perform at his best? You keep him from being ran into the ground by keeping his touches at a certain amount. It keeps him from getting injured and banged up, which is why Seattle used Charb, a lot as well, cause it kept K9 from also getting hurt.

Let’s say you pay K9, how much do you play K9 because now his contract dictates you gotta get your moneys worth for paying the guy. Do you still worry about K9 can possibly being ran into the ground? By playoff time, is K9, exhausted and beat up?

I think with Shaheed, if you don’t want or can’t justify paying a returner that much money, even though Shaheed will also play receiver and force safeties to continue to play high coverage, how do you replace an elite returner? Shaheed, can by himself, can the momentum of a lopsided game. That TNF game was looking rough until Shaheed took it back to the house. Seattle start out on offense in great spots because special teams with Shaheed puts Seattle in good positions.

Don’t think of it as only paying a returner big money, think of it as paying a player, cause he puts Darnold in better positions to succeed.

Vaild points but Shaheed was a replacement for the void left by Horton getting injured. If Horton was healthy throughout the season, there would have been no need to acquire Shaheed and most likely he wouldn't be a Seahawk today. I appreciate his talent but he's not a must sign at $15M/yr cost.

 

[Grahamhawker]

Return TDs always have been and always will be highly volatile/unpredictable. Shaheed had one PR TD and one KO return TD. Several returners league-wide had more TDs than Shaheed (2x in fact!). His timing on the KO return was what endears him, but is that repeatable?

There' a reason most returners are on their rookie deals. Marcus Jones had the highest average in '25, and he's on his second contract with the Pat's for 12/. He's also their starting slot corner. Chimere Dike tied Jones for average and TDs (both better than Shaheeds numbers) as a rookie 4th rounder.

Honestly, I'd hate to be the one making these decisions, lol.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I love Shaheed, but he's not worth $15 million per year.

After this year, opponents are going to avoid kicking to him as much as they can, reducing his value. As a recceiver, he just isn't as effective as other speedsters. Also, remember that Tory Horton had a long punt return for a TD before his injury. It's not only about Shaheed, it's about how well the special teams are coached.

Shaheed: 9 games, 15 receptions for 188 yards
Horton: 8 games (only 3 starts), 13 receptions for 161 yards

Punt returns:
Shaheed: 14.7 average, 1 TD
Horton: 14.9 average, 1 TD

This. Love the guy, but he's not even close to worth 15.

 

[Runscott]

I love Shaheed, but he's not worth $15 million per year.

After this year, opponents are going to avoid kicking to him as much as they can, reducing his value. As a recceiver, he just isn't as effective as other speedsters. Also, remember that Tory Horton had a long punt return for a TD before his injury. It's not only about Shaheed, it's about how well the special teams are coached.

Shaheed: 9 games, 15 receptions for 188 yards
Horton: 8 games (only 3 starts), 13 receptions for 161 yards

Punt returns:
Shaheed: 14.7 average, 1 TD
Horton: 14.9 average, 1 TD

Starting at your 35 is pretty great. Having a punter kick it out of bounds to give you an extra 15 years is also pretty great. He's also used on end-arounds and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting a lot more targets this year, and closer to 65 the following year if JSN is getting grumpier.

 

[Appyhawk]

There many angles from which to look at the numbers though. Was the SB win worth $15 M (?) for a year of Rasheed's gamechanging playmaking? I love Horton but I also suspect he will always, due to physical stature, be susceptible to injury. Another factor is the amount of money the salary cap increases every year. How much is $15M really worth?

 

[Natethegreat]

I'd rather have Walker than Shaheed at that price.