Ranking the remaining QBs

[Appyhawk]

I can see how an offseason thread detailing all the things Rat has gotten right would be a winner, at the very least entertaining.
Can we BOOK IT?

 

[Rat]

I can see how an offseason thread detailing all the things Rat has gotten right would be a winner, at the very least entertaining.
Can we BOOK IT?

That would crash the servers, but we could try!

 

[Ozzy]

I suppose, but seems like that was the case for Darnold in a number of his "big wins" and you have him third, despite not having Stroud's history of success in the playoffs.

He had zero in the Niners win. He had a couple against the Rams. What other big games did he blow it in? Stroud has 5 touchodwns in 5 playoff games. He does have 3 wins. He's young and watching him last night I just trust Darnold more. In Darnold's recent big games he made the critical play or drive to win it too. Not sure Stroud did that in his playoff wins but I could be wrong.

Not a lot separates a lot of the guys after Allen to be honest so its not a knock on a specific player.

 

[NoGain]

Definitely Allen at the top. I don't know how anyone could think otherwise. Imagine if he had Philly's wasted receiving corp? I'd put Stafford second. From there it gets kind of dicey to choose. I'm inclined to put Caleb Williams at the number three spot. Putting any of his developmental shortcomings aside for the moment, he's the most all round talented QB of the rest with his combination of speed, elusiveness, arm talent, and his clutch ability to wrest victories from the jaws of defeat, as he's done time and again this season. Guy's truly got ice water in his veins.

I'd probably round out the list like this...

4) Drake Maye
5) Darnold/Purdy
7) Stroud
8) Nix

I think Stroud is more naturally talented then either Darnold or Purdy, but I need to see better play out of him, need to see more of his talent realized on the field. As for Nix, he landed in the right spot. He came to the NFL with a ton of college experience, and Payton is getting the most out of him. If he wins a Super Bowl with the Broncos this year, he'd warrant a higher place on the list.

 

[Rat]

He had zero in the Niners win. He had a couple against the Rams. What other big games did he blow it in? Stroud has 5 touchodwns in 5 playoff games. He does have 3 wins. He's young and watching him last night I just trust Darnold more. In Darnold's recent big games he made the critical play or drive to win it too. Not sure Stroud did that in his playoff wins but I could be wrong.

Not a lot separates a lot of the guys after Allen to be honest so its not a knock on a specific player.

Stroud has also played in big games that weren't the playoffs. And Darnold played in some before this season, including a playoff game.

Seems inconsistent, but I suppose these are subjective. If Darnold plays like the third best QB among the remaining teams, we'll be in damn good shape.

 

[Ozzy]

I don't agree its inconsistent but I also acknowledge I don't follow the Texans a ton. I just know this year Darnold has multiple game winning drives and in his last two games he played a critical role in beating the Rams and the Niners, two of the best teams in the NFL when both meant something.

I don't know man Stroud made a ton of mistakes last night early and I just don't trust him as much as Darnold. I think Darnold had a better year and was asked to do more as well so maybe that factors in? Sometimes its just a guy feeling but Darnold is a guy who's thrown for almost 40 touchdowns and over 60 the past two years, has multiple big game performances down the stretch this year and that makes me trust him more than Stroud.

If Stroud comes through in the playoffs then he can move up the list.

 

[hox]

The 4th quarter hero ball from Caleb is impressive but how sustainable is that? He missed a wide-open guy in the flat that would have led to a victory in that 9ers game.

 

[NoGain]

The 4th quarter hero ball from Caleb is impressive but how sustainable is that? He missed a wide-open guy in the flat that would have led to a victory in that 9ers game.

Yup. There's some developmental things he's still short on. No doubt. But his improvement has been massive this year under the tutelage of Ben Johnson. He's uber talented, makes plays and throws that only a couple of other QB's are capable of. That one he made late in the game on 4th down the other night was one of the most spectacular clutch throws I've seen in the playoffs before.

 

[Ozzy]

Williams scares me a little. He has a ways to go but he also makes 3-4 plays a game that leaves you shaking your head.

 

[Welshers2]

#1 - Serious Sam Darnold. Going by fundaentals, skill and clutch factor? He is the best QB left. By every conceivable metric. Period.
<big gap>
#2 - Josh Allen - Not quite at Sam's level, but an MVP and scariest guy out there not on Seattle.
#3 - Matt Stafford - Hate to say it but he's good.
#4 - D Maye - Unproven though. Very unproven.
#5 - Brock Purdy - Meh. Never been too scared of him. He's a meh guy who has never gotten over the hump and never will.
#6 CJ Stroud - Has proven himself more than the last two.
#7 - Caleb Williams - He has cooked at times this season.
#8 - Bo Nix - Meh.

 

[Ostatehawk]

Definitely Allen at the top. I don't know how anyone could think otherwise. Imagine if he had Philly's wasted receiving corp? I'd put Stafford second. From there it gets kind of dicey to choose. I'm inclined to put Caleb Williams at the number three spot. Putting any of his developmental shortcomings aside for the moment, he's the most all round talented QB of the rest with his combination of speed, elusiveness, arm talent, and his clutch ability to wrest victories from the jaws of defeat, as he's done time and again this season. Guy's truly got ice water in his veins.

I'd probably round out the list like this...

4) Drake Maye
5) Darnold/Purdy
7) Stroud
8) Nix

I think Stroud is more naturally talented then either Darnold or Purdy, but I need to see better play out of him, need to see more of his talent realized on the field. As for Nix, he landed in the right spot. He came to the NFL with a ton of college experience, and Payton is getting the most out of him. If he wins a Super Bowl with the Broncos this year, he'd warrant a higher place on the list.

Nix wont win the SB. We have seen the zenith of Nix - he is what he is. Decent middle of the pack QB that will be good enough to keep donk in the mediocre draft pick range so that they can continue their mediocrity. 1st place schedule coming for them next year - and it will be glorious to watch. They will return to mid pack - at best. BOOK IT

 

[CostaRicaHawk]

By the end of the year Darnold will be 3-1 in playoff competition with a Super Bowl...

 

[Sperrydogg]

#1 - Serious Sam Darnold. Going by fundaentals, skill and clutch factor? He is the best QB left. By every conceivable metric. Period.
<big gap>
#2 - Josh Allen - Not quite at Sam's level, but an MVP and scariest guy out there not on Seattle.
#3 - Matt Stafford - Hate to say it but he's good.
#4 - D Maye - Unproven though. Very unproven.
#5 - Brock Purdy - Meh. Never been too scared of him. He's a meh guy who has never gotten over the hump and never will.
#6 CJ Stroud - Has proven himself more than the last two.
#7 - Caleb Williams - He has cooked at times this season.
#8 - Bo Nix - Meh.

Really…..

 

[Welshers2]

Really…..

Something wrong with my list?

 

[Sperrydogg]

Something wrong with my list?

Sam at the top? I got blue and green glasses too….

I guess maybe it’s true?…

If he’s above Josh Allen then he’s the best cause it’s all a tie at the tippy top

 

[Sperrydogg]

Sam is the best qb in the nfl

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not really, but he's def. better than some make him out to be. He proves it AGAIN on Saturday.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Is there a difference between best qb and first qb you would pick?

 

[Raifers]

Allen, Darnold, Stafford, Maye/Williams, Stroud, Purdy and nix

I am still a firm believer that Purdy only did well with the talent he had around him. I will point out again that Jimmy G and Purdy had very similar results when they had CMC, Kittle and Deebo available. I didn’t see/feel like much was lost when Mac Jones was in this year and had all the same weapons. Sorry here in the Bay Area I’m stuck watching a lot of niners games. In fact I might even say they felt more dangerous cuz it was more balanced which opened up the deep game. Heck imo Kapernick only did well cuz he had prime Vernon Davis.

Also anyone who knocks Darnold for turnovers would have to do the same for Purdy and Stroud after their last wins. Purdy has a longer track record of turnovers in the playoffs, yet they give him so much credit for winning a game at the end and seem to gloss over it. Really feel it’s more of how the other team chokes than anything he really did. Not to mention near picks.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Look, no secret what I feel about the Niners. But......Purdy is a damn good QB. IF you pressure him, he looks average.