QB for 2025 season

[Rat]

Geno's our best option for next season. Cutting him will just leave us without a competent Quarterback. Oh sure, everyone hopes that some 21-year old out there is going to make the jump from the college game to the pros and set the world on fire, but that is pipe-dream stuff. And we all know about the franchise failures that keep drafting top 5 because they continue to follow that pipe dream.

Wasn't a pipe dream for the Commanders and Broncos this year, nor was it for the Texans last year. The Patriots seem pretty happy too, and the Falcons are apparently confident enough in theirs to bench their $180 million vet QB during a playoff push.

 

[Shane Falco]

No guts, no glory. Closed mouth doesn't get fed. Can't win if you don't play... ok, I'm out of them.

 

[JayhawkMike]

Purdy would either be dead or crippled behind our O-line.

Geno's our best option for next season. Cutting him will just leave us without a competent Quarterback. Oh sure, everyone hopes that some 21-year old out there is going to make the jump from the college game to the pros and set the world on fire, but that is pipe-dream stuff. And we all know about the franchise failures that keep drafting top 5 because they continue to follow that pipe dream.

Keeping Geno means we remain a playoff-caliber team on the rise, and a place players will want to come.

Next year's draft has a lot of DBs, some Edge and DTs, and a few OL. There are no superstar QBs. Going with the premise that were are in good shape at DB, and that the suckers in the top 10 will reach for QBs and skill position players, we should have a few decent OL/DL prospects fall to us around pick 20.

Lockett and George Fant will be cap casualties, which means we'll have plenty of money to re-sign Ernest Jones, (perhaps) Jarran Reed, and either Josh Jobe or Tre Brown. So I could see us taking a DL like Kenneth Grant (especially if both Hankings and Reed walk), then an IOL like Booker or Ratledge in the second to replace Tomlinson.

Geno will keep us covered at QB for another year, so we can run a few more guys through camp to see if they can beat out Howell -- but I doubt they will, he's a decent QB -- so then it's a matter of shopping other team's prospects and getting ready to pounce when that player hits FA. Geno's a free agent in 2026, so we can shop with that money or resign him for nearly the same money assuming he doesn't completely ball out next year.

So yeah, I think we're in good shape. I am not worried at all.

I can never understand some fans happiness in being completely mediocre.

 

[Kamcussionator]

Wasn't a pipe dream for the Commanders and Broncos this year, nor was it for the Texans last year. The Patriots seem pretty happy too, and the Falcons are apparently confident enough in theirs to bench their $180 million vet QB during a playoff push.

Except for Atlanta, none of those teams had a competent starter, so they should be happy their rookies are doing well. The Bears, Panthers, and Colts did not fare as well.

Atlanta's case is closer to our own (although we won't be picking in the top 10 anytime soon) in that their normally competent starter is having an off year in a new offense. We shall see if their gamble pays off for them. I personally would trust Geno over any of the rookies you allude to, but there's no way to know if any of them would have done better, so I will be happy for the mere fact we didn't mortgage the franchise to chase any of them.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Wasn't a pipe dream for the Commanders and Broncos this year, nor was it for the Texans last year. The Patriots seem pretty happy too, and the Falcons are apparently confident enough in theirs to bench their $180 million vet QB during a playoff push.

Yeah, I don't get the rhetoric surrounding rookies. Yes, they are undoubtably a risk -- but it is a risk you have to take as an NFL franchise. We're never going to go on a run with Geno Smith. Is he better than some fans are leading on? Absolutely. He's also proven he can win games in tough situations, BUT he also has a huge consistency issue. He tends to pull a disappearing act every year near the midway of the season.

Smith also has redzone issues, I've been harping on this aspect of him for years at this point. This is a big issue with the offense going forward. Another issue with Geno is his performances are getting slightly worse every year.

Geno is good in so many areas, but there are key points where he is a liability. John Schneider really needs to view Geno as a temporary fix, because that is what he is.

Unfortunately I think that the last NFL draft was the one that we should've gotten aggressive with the QB position. The next draft really is weak at the QB position. We really only have a few options for replacing Geno and none of them are ideal.

Cousins may become available, unfortunately the dude is starting to look cooked. The only other potential option that I can think of is Sam Darnold. The issue with this is the Vikings could easily franchise and trade him away to the highest bidder. He's also going to cost a huge sum of money for only one productive season. So is he really going to be better than Geno? Either way, I hope JS is watching a lot of footage on Darnold -- because he may be our only viable option for an upgrade at the QB position.

 

[Kamcussionator]

I can never understand some fans happiness in being completely mediocre.

We are the 8th winningest franchise since 2000, and the 13th since 2020. That's far from being mediocre.

In the same time period, the Patriots went from 1st to 25th.
In fact there's only a handful of teams that can say they were consistently better than us: the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Packers, and Eagles. That's good company.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Burrow also has recievers who can get open consistently. Outside of Jaxon, our recievers are struggling at that this season.

Their receivers also attack the ball with their hands. We have 1 guy that does that and he's too small be a reliable 50/50 ball guy. Our guy who should be that guy, in the redzone particularly, isn't good at it.

 

[SonicHawk]

Wasn't a pipe dream for the Commanders and Broncos this year, nor was it for the Texans last year. The Patriots seem pretty happy too, and the Falcons are apparently confident enough in theirs to bench their $180 million vet QB during a playoff push.

Denver's best win is Tampa. Washington's best win is Arizona. Patriots have lost 4 in a row and are 1-7 under Maye. Stroud doubled his INTs and has no rushing TDs.

Can we chill on how amazing these teams are.

 

[Ozzy]

Except for Atlanta, none of those teams had a competent starter, so they should be happy their rookies are doing well. The Bears, Panthers, and Colts did not fare as well.

Atlanta's case is closer to our own (although we won't be picking in the top 10 anytime soon) in that their normally competent starter is having an off year in a new offense. We shall see if their gamble pays off for them. I personally would trust Geno over any of the rookies you allude to, but there's no way to know if any of them would have done better, so I will be happy for the mere fact we didn't mortgage the franchise to chase any of them.

I wanted Penix so bad and I think he hits.

 

[hawker84]

Denver's best win is Tampa. Washington's best win is Arizona. Patriots have lost 4 in a row and are 1-7 under Maye. Stroud doubled his INTs and has no rushing TDs.

Can we chill on how amazing these teams are.

 

[Rat]

Denver's best win is Tampa. Washington's best win is Arizona. Patriots have lost 4 in a row and are 1-7 under Maye. Stroud doubled his INTs and has no rushing TDs.

Can we chill on how amazing these teams are.

What's Seattle's best win then, Atlanta? Geno's INTs have gone up too. He's 34 though.

I wasn't even talking about the teams, I was talking about how great their rookie QBs are playing. They were all drafted in the top 12, by teams who were bad enough to be picking in the top 12, so I think it's excusable that none of them have won the Super Bowl in the first 14 weeks of their first season.

Geez, some of you are so far up Geno's ass that you take compliments of other QBs as personal insults.

 

[SonicHawk]

All I meant to imply was the celebration of mediocrity when you already are mediocre is just grass being greener. All those new QBs are more exciting because you think they can get better and Geno can’t. But that’s just hope.

 

[OrangeGravy]

All I meant to imply was the celebration of mediocrity when you already are mediocre is just grass being greener. All those new QBs are more exciting because you think they can get better and Geno can’t. But that’s just hope.

Not only is it hope. The odds are against them ever being as good as Geno is right now

 

[OrangeGravy]

Not only is it hope. The odds are against them ever being as good as Geno is right now

And that's borderline top 10-15 depending on your flavor preferences

 

[Ozzy]

Not only is it hope. The odds are against them ever being as good as Geno is right now

They’re already better. Go compare Daniels, Nix, Maye stats with Geno’s. They’re already better.

 

[JayhawkMike]

We are the 8th winningest franchise since 2000, and the 13th since 2020. That's far from being mediocre.

In the same time period, the Patriots went from 1st to 25th.
In fact there's only a handful of teams that can say they were consistently better than us: the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Packers, and Eagles. That's good company.

Yes, 3 playoff Wins in 10 years is good enough for some.
THREE playoff wins since the interception

A decent win against the Lions, A Missed Vikings Easy Field Goal and barely beating a deeply damaged Eagles team. That’s it. And sad thing is most of the post season losses were fully and easily expected.

good enough for some I guess.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I doubt it's good enough for many. Come on man.

 

[keasley45]

Yeah, I don't get the rhetoric surrounding rookies. Yes, they are undoubtably a risk -- but it is a risk you have to take as an NFL franchise. We're never going to go on a run with Geno Smith. Is he better than some fans are leading on? Absolutely. He's also proven he can win games in tough situations, BUT he also has a huge consistency issue. He tends to pull a disappearing act every year near the midway of the season.

Smith also has redzone issues, I've been harping on this aspect of him for years at this point. This is a big issue with the offense going forward. Another issue with Geno is his performances are getting slightly worse every year.

Geno is good in so many areas, but there are key points where he is a liability. John Schneider really needs to view Geno as a temporary fix, because that is what he is.

Unfortunately I think that the last NFL draft was the one that we should've gotten aggressive with the QB position. The next draft really is weak at the QB position. We really only have a few options for replacing Geno and none of them are ideal.

Cousins may become available, unfortunately the dude is starting to look cooked. The only other potential option that I can think of is Sam Darnold. The issue with this is the Vikings could easily franchise and trade him away to the highest bidder. He's also going to cost a huge sum of money for only one productive season. So is he really going to be better than Geno? Either way, I hope JS is watching a lot of footage on Darnold -- because he may be our only viable option for an upgrade at the QB position.

Outside of Seattle, it has been almost universally stated that the problem with the offense isnt Geno. Just as the problem with the running game isnt K Walker, and the problem with the o line isnt just talent.

So if thats the case, the prudent thing to do would be to fix the root problem and see how the other pieces perform.

Riding with a broken OC and O line coach will yield sub-par results, regardless of who is running or throwing the ball. ESPECIALLY if you plan on marrying that OC and O line coach with a player who has no experience in the league.

If you are replacing Geno next year and want someone who is a permanent fix, you are likely throwing money at a Sam Darnold and arent saving anything. But if you arent also fixing the O line coach and OC issues we have, you would be foolish to expect Sam to play at the same level he is now. He isnt nearly as good under pressure as Geno and has entirely credited his rebirth to the coaching he has received in Minny. If anyone thinks he would have achieved what he has had he come to Seattle in 2024, i have some beachfront property West Virginia for you to look at.

And if you are going with a rookie AND changing OC and O line coaches, the chances that you hit on a better situation than keeping Geno AND fixing the OC and O line coaching are slim considering the talent coming out next year.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's still time for a change at QB in 2025, imo.

"who?" in 3....2.....1......

/sarcasm

 

[pittpnthrs]

We need lineman not a QB. Why folks still don't get that is beyond me.

We need both. Why folks still don't get that is beyond me.