POLL: Geno Is Our Franchise QB

[AROS]

For now…Yes? No? Why or why not?

 

[kidhawk]

How are we defining “franchise qb”? Are we talking about a qb who can have winning seasons and win some playoff games for the foreseeable future? Are we talking about someone who will be The Man for the next decade or more?

 

[LeveeBreak]

How are we defining “franchise qb”? Are we talking about a qb who can have winning seasons and win some playoff games for the foreseeable future? Are we talking about someone who will be The Man for the next decade or more?

I interpreted the former...so yes. Geno is still athletic but that can wane quickly. Hopefully 2-3 years left, maybe more. His intelligence and leadership can cver some of that.

 

[Kamcussionator]

Um, he's the starter. Are you suggesting we should start Howell?

 

[hgwellz12]

Yes. I foresee a SOLID 3-5 more years of really good to GREAT QB play from one Eugene "Geno" Cyril Smith III for our Seattle Seahawks. Whether 3-5 years + the previous 2 = "franchise QB" to anyone is nothing I care to debate.

 

[Jville]

The overused media term "franchise quarterback" has no definitive consensus as to its meaning.

On the other hand, the term Master Craftsman does have meaning to me.

Geno Smith has become a Mater Craftsman in the quarterback trade.

 

[Ad Hawk]

QB-of-the-future, franchise guy, terms like these are rather meaningless when merely hoping for some foot-ball utopia future. Any QB can be hit, injured, and fall off quickly, even top-shelf passers. The future is not certain.

Would I like to get a QB (Geno or otherwise) who can take us to the playoffs nearly every season for 10 years straight, and win a SB or two in that span? Who wouldn't?!?! But every team is looking for those players. Yet very few have one, even after spending many draft picks and trades looking for such a guy. And the truth is that you can win a SB without such QBs and the dramatically disproportional (relative to other positions) salaries they typically demand after their rookie contract.

Geno is the QB our previous coach chose as his starter, and the QB our current coach chose, as well. He had a better day than nearly every QB in the league Sunday. He's our franchise guy because he plays for and leads our team. Nothing else matters.

 

[toffee]

My take:

Can the Seahawks won Superbowl in 2013 QB by Geno Smith v2022-24? I like to think so. Not the Geno Smith of 2013 though

Can the Seahawks won more rings after that 2013? Very likely, no internal conflicts, Peter didn't have to gut the defense etc.

If young Macdonald can build a league leading defense by 2025, we might just win another ring before Geno sails into retirement.

 

[CallMeADawg]

My take:

Can the Seahawks won Superbowl in 2013 QB by Geno Smith v2022-24? I like to think so. Not the Geno Smith of 2013 though

Can the Seahawks won more rings after that 2013? Very likely, no internal conflicts, Peter didn't have to gut the defense etc.

If young Macdonald can build a league leading defense by 2025, we might just win another ring before Geno sails into retirement.

Your defense doesn't need to lead the league to win the super bowl. They do need to be good, but leading the league isn't specifically required.

 

[keasley45]

Only because of the way he cane to this point and who he replaced, do we spend so much time on the question of whether Geno is 'the guy'.

In any other universe, if a qb came in and played as well as Geno has - not talking pure stats, but the obvious mastery and nuance with which the guy plays- his quality and value would be unquestioned. I mean, the same folks who are critical of Geno were lobbying for Gardner Minshew to come in here, post Wilson. And had he done so, they'd likely be thrilled with his manner, his grit, and 'overachieving' character.

But Geno? Noooo. He's that guy who never 'was', and so somehow, can never be.

Geno is a franchise QB. Period.

Wr can debate whether or not he's top 9 to 12, top 6 to 9, or top 5, but a franchise guy, he is, until, as coach Mike said - he's not.

Can he play at this level for another 3 years? Yeah. I think so. And if he does, we will have gotten 6 franchise qb years out of him. Is that not enough? Or is the default stabdard, HOF, franchise qbs like Montana, Young, Elway, Marino, Manning Brady Brees and Rodgers, who were greats from day 0.

Can he sling it like he is 4 years from now? He wouldnt be the first guy to do it in his latter 30s.

Point is, he's a top 10 caliber qb all day until he isnt. When that day comes is up to Geno. But he looks to just be getting started.

The dude ran a 21+ mph, 30 + yard TD. If he loses a step or 3 in the next 4 years and does it at 19mph, how many franchise qbs is that faster than right now?

He's got a rocket for an arm. If he loses some pace, it woukd still be 'franchise' good, because he's shown the ability to throw passes of all kinds - with zip, with touch, with anticipation.

And his mastery of the game is only deepening. Give him a year or two more and he will be ad valuable an assett in all the field play calling as the OC.

We lucked into one helluva franchise guy going into the 2nd half of his career. We should all be a little more appreciative of just how good (and how rare) a player like Geno is.

Is he top 5, bullet proof all day? No. And at times he does some top 12 to 15 stuff. Would i be happier if we has 23 years old and not 33? Yeah. But if he was 23 and playing the way he is, folks would be debating where on the list of all time greats he'd be when he hangs them up.

But we have him now. He's like the love of your life, waltzing in after a bitter divorce when the both of you are on the wrong side of 45. You dont question it. Just he happy that it happened.

 

[bigskydoc]

There are really only two things that Geno can’t give you that you get when you draft the mythical franchise QB.

Rookie contract, and longevity.

When I look at the list of QB contracts, posted in another thread, I have a hard time seeing Geno as anything other than a “franchise QB,” that you hook your wagon to for the long-term, unless you are going to go my preferred route of drafting a new rookie every three to four years, and use the saved money to build the best team possible around him.

There are only five or six QBs that I would even consider over Smith, placing Geno squarely in the top ten of options, whether or not Smithis a true top ten QB. In my mind, a top ten option is, by definition, a franchise guy.

Are Rodgers and Stanford franchise QBs? What about Prescott, with his 2-5 playoff record? Jordan Love, or Trevor Lawrence at 1-1? Hebert at 0-1? Smith is 0-1 BTW.

I’d be curious to hear who people that don’t see him as a franchise guy would want instead.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Didn't expect that to be the result. Jesus.

I guess the minority is more vocal than I thought.

 

[pittpnthrs]

He's the starter, but not the 'franchise QB' and that's because of age. He has probably 2 to 3 more years as the starter and unfortunately I don't think the holes will be filled by then to line everything up. He has been playing well though and it could be a lot worse.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I just wanna' see this full season play out. If he balls out, wins a playoff game or two, then hell yes. Or......geYES.

3.....2......1........

 

[CallMeADawg]

Didn't expect that to be the result. Jesus.

I guess the minority is more vocal than I thought.

Yep. The Geno haters club is losing members faster than the 49ers and Rams are losing starters. The remaining haters are just like the Panthers, irrelevant.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

For now…Yes? No? Why or why not?

I said 'yes'.

I will say, aside from the contract sabre rattling prior to the season - he seems to have settled into a professional 'groove'.

Having said that - the first 1/2 of the Broncos game he looked like hot garbage, and K9 shouldered the 2nd half.

With Geno I have trouble separating his performance from our continued struggles on the Oline, and his dependance on the run game, which is a direct extrapolation of having little time in the pocket.

We have played 4 1/2's of football, and each of them has been completely different in personality. Patriots game he was marching up the field in the first half.

I spent 2022 screaming 'Geno for Prez' - so I started out as a fanboy. And during several stretches of the Patriots game - he was $$$$. Throwing darts and just being awesome.

He's entirely serviceable. And that's not a slap in the face. That's all I ever asked of him. He's not 75MM a year - and I'd rather fix the pieces around him than have a QB that's crippling the team for cap space.

All in all, I'm great with him. Now let's fix the Oline.

 

[oldhawkfan]

I voted yes. Geno is the QB until he’s not. He is the best option at QB for this team right now. Fan expectations are often unrealistic. Enjoy the ride.

 

[Lagartixa]

Is he top 5, bullet proof all day? No. And at times he does some top 12 to 15 stuff. Would i be happier if we has 23 years old and not 33? Yeah. But if he was 23 and playing the way he is, folks would be debating where on the list of all time greats he'd be when he hangs them up.

We'd also be trying to figure out how, once he got his contract extension, the Seahawks could build a winning roster around a $65-million-dollar-per-year QB. A small minority would be advocating for trading him for a ton of picks to a terrible team in the AFC to start the next rebuild rather than trying to build a roster around a QB taking up 23% of the cap.

 

[JerseyHawk]

Listen let's get back to reality a little bit here. Geno Smith is NOT a franchise QB. He is above average, but on what planet does a QB who has played in the league for over 10 years and has never won a playoff game considered a franchise QB. Did he play well on Sunday? Yes, but I have seen this same pattern over an over from this guy. He comes up extremely small in BIG games and in no way do I want this Franchise to tie its wagon to a 34 year old journeyman QB. The first two games of this season were definitely winnable ones for sure, but let's be serious did we blow either of those non-playoff teams out? He still trends as someone who is not pocket savy and in my opinion does not have a very high football IQ. If you are all happy about slipping into the playoffs and going one and out, then Geno is your man, otherwise I think we really need to start looking for our long term guy! Go Hawks!!!

 

[CallMeADawg]

Listen let's get back to reality a little bit here. Geno Smith is NOT a franchise QB. He is above average, but on what planet does a QB who has played in the league for over 10 years and has never won a playoff game considered a franchise QB. Did he play well on Sunday? Yes, but I have seen this same pattern over an over from this guy. He comes up extremely small in BIG games and in no way do I want this Franchise to tie its wagon to a 34 year old journeyman QB. The first two games of this season were definitely winnable ones for sure, but let's be serious did we blow either of those non-playoff teams out? He still trends as someone who is not pocket savy and in my opinion does not have a very high football IQ. If you are all happy about slipping into the playoffs and going one and out, then Geno is your man, otherwise I think we really need to start looking for our long term guy! Go Hawks!!!

You either didn't watch Sunday or didn't know what you were looking at. Saying Geno has low football IQ is the worst take after the absolutely dominant clinic he put on display vs a very good defensive team, especially in the secondary.

Also, you just joined 13 minutes ago. Welcome, but man that's not how you want to start out here.