Pick #35 Malik McDowell, DT, Michigan State

[MontanaHawk05]

Obi and Robinson were massive traps. Lamp was a guard, not a tackle.

This is a GREAT pick. I pumped my fist in the air and hollered.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

This pick is no surprise and if some of you took the time to checkout Staton's blog you would know that. Seattle targeted McDowell.

Correct though you would have to read the comments, Rob wasnt high on MM himself because of percieved attitude issues. Me and others on the blog have been SCREAMING DT interior pressure for months. A monster on the Dline instead of MArsh puts at at a championship level.

I don't agree with Rob half of the time but he's a good source of information when it comes to Seattle's draft .

 

[xgeoff]

I'm not happy at all. Biggest needs are OL and DB and we missed on King and Robinson. Wtf

This is how I feel.

Look, Schneider and Carroll had some great early drafts, so they've built up a certain level of trust. But they haven't been hitting paydirt with their drafts lately, and if this is another bust where we get few, if any, starters, then we may need to start worrying about the FO.

The Lynch trade was complete crap for us. No money, no draft capital, nothing.

Now we see them move down strategically (in rather brilliant fashion, really) and then pick.... a DT? Really? WTF? Forrest Lamp was right there for us. Anyone who doesn't think we need help on the OLine is delusional.

I'm willing to play wait and see, but as of right now I see no value in McDowell. None.

And, frankly, I just don't know anything about these other picks. I don't know who the hell these guys are. Hopefully, hopefully they will work out and I can comfortably claim that John and Pete just know better than I. I'm looking forward to that moment.

 

[mikeak]

The only issue I have with statements that we targeted him is that we traded down three times before we picked him. If he was THE guy then we don't do that

I like going for defense with the pick and posted in the predict thread that I thought we would go DT, but with Taco and Takkarist gone who was our backup pick if we don't get this guy?

Just saying we probably had a few players listed and not just him. The real question is if nobody trades with us day 1 do we make the same pick?

 

[Ad Hawk]

...I just don't know anything about these other picks. I don't know who the hell these guys are.

The most important part of your post, it seems to me.

:les:

 

[MrThortan]

That video being posted is a great breakdown. I think he will be a good fit for the Seahawks and have high hopes

 

[Bobblehead]

That video being posted is a great breakdown. I think he will be a good fit for the Seahawks and have high hopes

I think Bennett and Avril will be great mentors for him.

 

[IrishNW]

i cant get it to embed but this video is interesting https://youtu.be/BGMrKjKbm9U

 

[titan3131]

The only issue I have with statements that we targeted him is that we traded down three times before we picked him. If he was THE guy then we don't do that

I like going for defense with the pick and posted in the predict thread that I thought we would go DT, but with Taco and Takkarist gone who was our backup pick if we don't get this guy?

Just saying we probably had a few players listed and not just him. The real question is if nobody trades with us day 1 do we make the same pick?

Malik was the pick from the beginning, is it that hard to comprehend that JS knows other teams needs and habits? Everyone knew Mixon wasnt going rd1 and the same was suspected of Malik.

The same strategy we used on frank clark was implemented here, if you cant comprehend that idk what to tell you. Malik has no equal in this draft, the closest would be J allen but his game is different. Malik is a Bennett type in a Calias campbell body. He has a ceiling that if coached properly as he will in seattle will become the best defensive line player out of this draft.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

I'm not happy at all. Biggest needs are OL and DB and we missed on King and Robinson. Wtf

This is how I feel.

Look, Schneider and Carroll had some great early drafts, so they've built up a certain level of trust. But they haven't been hitting paydirt with their drafts lately, and if this is another bust where we get few, if any, starters, then we may need to start worrying about the FO.

The Lynch trade was complete crap for us. No money, no draft capital, nothing.

Now we see them move down strategically (in rather brilliant fashion, really) and then pick.... a DT? Really? WTF? Forrest Lamp was right there for us. Anyone who doesn't think we need help on the OLine is delusional.

I'm willing to play wait and see, but as of right now I see no value in McDowell. None.

And, frankly, I just don't know anything about these other picks. I don't know who the hell these guys are. Hopefully, hopefully they will work out and I can comfortably claim that John and Pete just know better than I. I'm looking forward to that moment.

There's nothing about Lamp that screams greatness nothing and he will be just another journeyman guard in the NFL . I'm glad they didn't take him.

 

[Seafan]

Nice read.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/4/21/15352 ... draft-2017

 

[seahawkfreak]

I'm not happy at all. Biggest needs are OL and DB and we missed on King and Robinson. Wtf

This is how I feel.

Look, Schneider and Carroll had some great early drafts, so they've built up a certain level of trust. But they haven't been hitting paydirt with their drafts lately, and if this is another bust where we get few, if any, starters, then we may need to start worrying about the FO.

The Lynch trade was complete crap for us. No money, no draft capital, nothing.

Now we see them move down strategically (in rather brilliant fashion, really) and then pick.... a DT? Really? WTF? Forrest Lamp was right there for us. Anyone who doesn't think we need help on the OLine is delusional.

I'm willing to play wait and see, but as of right now I see no value in McDowell. None.

And, frankly, I just don't know anything about these other picks. I don't know who the hell these guys are. Hopefully, hopefully they will work out and I can comfortably claim that John and Pete just know better than I. I'm looking forward to that moment.

There's nothing about Lamp that screams greatness nothing and he will be just another journeyman guard in the NFL . I'm glad they didn't take him.

I don't know, some analysts, that are not just blabbermouths, thought different. Mike Mayock on Seahawks pick: If Forrest Lamp is there, sprint to the podium. Just for clarity though, I love the McDowell pick.

 

[mikeak]

The only issue I have with statements that we targeted him is that we traded down three times before we picked him. If he was THE guy then we don't do that

I like going for defense with the pick and posted in the predict thread that I thought we would go DT, but with Taco and Takkarist gone who was our backup pick if we don't get this guy?

Just saying we probably had a few players listed and not just him. The real question is if nobody trades with us day 1 do we make the same pick?

Malik was the pick from the beginning, is it that hard to comprehend that JS knows other teams needs and habits? Everyone knew Mixon wasnt going rd1 and the same was suspected of Malik.

The same strategy we used on frank clark was implemented here, if you cant comprehend that idk what to tell you. Malik has no equal in this draft, the closest would be J allen but his game is different. Malik is a Bennett type in a Calias campbell body. He has a ceiling that if coached properly as he will in seattle will become the best defensive line player out of this draft.

I comprehend. What is amazing is the certainty you exhume in posts like this when we all know hat we are guessing on the FO thoughts.

If this is THE GUY then we gambled to get an additional pick THREE times. It is one thing to have a belief that you can wait a whole round but to move down a few picks each time means he is going around that pick. So now you are just gambling on what you get. If we were fifth and there were five other options then fine, but there wasn't. So he may have been our top guy but King may have been the top guy and we missed and settled. You have a belief fine but get off the high horse please and start using a more pleasant tone

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

Pretty impressive how he almost never gets pushed back, double team or not.

 

[West TX Hawk]

I totally understand the necessity for improving the interior pass rush and love the raw athleticism McDowell brings. Legitimate questions remain about his lack of technique in addition to effort issues though. He's going to need to learn quickly some additional swim or spin moves because if the Big 10 figured him out, he'll disappear for plays on end in the NFL.

I love his size, speed, length, versatility to move in and out and look forward seeing him in the sub with Avril, Clark and Bennett. We could have a lot of pressure without the need to blitz if this kid can learn from the DL coaches and put forth max effort no matter the situation.

 

[hawknation2017]

PFF is calling him the "steal" of Day 2:

Round 2, pick No. 35 overall: Malik McDowell, DI, Michigan State

Lost in the mixture of struggles for the Seahawks’ defense in 2016 was the fact that the interior of their defensive line offered nothing in terms of pass-rushing ability. Ahtyba Rubin, Tony McDaniel, and Jarran Reed combined for 34 QB pressures on 788 pass-rushing snaps. McDowell immediately upgrades that in a big way. In 2015, McDowell recorded 49 QB pressures (five more than Solomon Thomas had this past year) on only 334 pass rushes. Injuries and inconsistency plagued him in 2016, but at his best, he still dominated Wisconsin for seven pressures on 25 pass rushes.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft- ... s-2-and-3/

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[bighawk]

You cant reason with people who had there eyes on other people in the draft Malik is an elite talent that is 20 years old. A lot these guys only listen Mel and Todd and whatever they say they run with. Malik played out of position and he still was dominant he has J.J. Watt ability when used properly again he is 20. Imagine if we get Dion Jordan back on track along with Bennett, Clark, Avril, McDowell wow you cant block everyone. I am too excited Go hawks.

 

[ringless]

In regards to the 1.5 sacks that were brought up. I don't think it's really a fair way to assess a player. Otherwise Calais Campbell was never really any good except a year or two.... Of course that's not true. A lot of what players do on any given play don't show up on stat sheets. With all the talent around the kid from the coaches to the players he has a great chance to succeed with the Seahawks. While it may not have been a deep DL draft class, that could explain why he was picked before a DB. Look at all the Offensive picks in the top 12. Teams grabbed limited talent early knowing they'd still have a chance at great value later in the deeper positions.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

In regards to the 1.5 sacks that were brought up. I don't think it's really a fair way to assess a player. Otherwise Calais Campbell was never really any good except a year or two.... Of course that's not true. A lot of what players do on any given play don't show up on stat sheets. With all the talent around the kid from the coaches to the players he has a great chance to succeed with the Seahawks. While it may not have been a deep DL draft class, that could explain why he was picked before a DB. Look at all the Offensive picks in the top 12. Teams grabbed limited talent early knowing they'd still have a chance at great value later in the deeper positions.

Good sensible post.

While your here what's the current deal with Nkemdiche? I ask as many are comparing him to McDowell.

 

[hawknation2017]

The closest comparison I can think of is Leonard Williams, another DL with similar attributes who entered the draft at 20 years old. Williams was the 6th overall pick and became a Pro Bowler last season. And McDowell is longer and more explosive than Williams. This guy has a high ceiling. It's all about attitude and want.