Pete just said Browner's going to play some Safety

[Mick063]

I'm still stuck on how bad the receiving back, Shane Vereen, torched Seattle in the Super Bowl. Third and five was an unstoppable conversion for the Patriots as they wiped out a two score deficit.

I like Browner in a dime package to sniff out those delayed wheel routes. For some reason the linebackers can't get there on time. Clemons was top notch in sniffing out screens (different play than a wheel route). Between Clemons and Browner, Seattle may be able to counter those receiving running backs. Bennie Cunningham has been a "pain in the ass " third down converter for the Rams in this regard.

 

[two dog]

Seattle has generally avoided having specialist DBs in the past so this news is a pleasant surprise for me. Good call by Scotte, he predicted Browner would be a TE matchup guy.

If this holds true I like the Browner signing a lot more. Browner's size and speed compares pretty well to Kam.

I wonder if this means Seattle is getting back to the "big nickle" 3 safety defense like the one they had in 2010 and 2011. Given the current personnel, it would make a lot of sense.

If so, that would be one intimidating nickel back.

My first thought was that if this is the future, wouldn't that improve the chances of king-size safety/killer
special teams player Tanner McEvoy to make the practice squad at least?

 

[cheese22]

I was hoping that MacEvoy would fill this role. He obviously doesn't have the experience of BB but he checks every other box. Help match up size wise, he has experience in coverage, he's fast, he's young and he's cheaper. Plus, he can be used in other roles as well, like STs and even WR.

 

[Basis4day]

I was hoping that MacEvoy would fill this role. He obviously doesn't have the experience of BB but he checks every other box. Help match up size wise, he has experience in coverage, he's fast, he's young and he's cheaper. Plus, he can be used in other roles as well, like STs and even WR.

Keep in mind, neither player is guaranteed to make the team. They're talking how they view Browner now.

 

[Popeyejones]

I love the idea of implementing a veteran player's abilities into a new concept. Intuitive and advanced thinking by Pete as well.

Isn't it just how NE used him?

Yeah. Also how the Cards use Bucannon and the 9ers use Tartt.

 

[chris98251]

Browner can Jam TE's and beat the pass catchers coming off the line up, TE's complaining about a CB beating them up should be entertaining.

As stated I was on the board with Browner is a fix for the TE seam routes that Gates and Gronk got us on and other TE's.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Hmm...interesting I've always thought he should be a safety after he lost a step and he's big and nasty enough to mess with TE's...this is about attitude in my opinion, I like it.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

As a product of this move Pete says they will be in Dime alot more with less nickel then before...

And that would mean Clark is at SAM alot more, right?

Teehee!

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[MizzouHawkGal]

As a product of this move Pete says they will be in Dime alot more with less nickel then before...

And that would mean Clark is at SAM alot more, right?

Teehee!

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Isn't this the mythical "Big Nickel" scheme Pete has been wanting to do for years? Basically being in Dime while being in Nickel at the same time?

 

[Mistashoesta]

As a product of this move Pete says they will be in Dime alot more with less nickel then before...

And that would mean Clark is at SAM alot more, right?

Teehee!

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Isn't this the mythical "Big Nickel" scheme Pete has been wanting to do for years? Basically being in Dime while being in Nickel at the same time?

You may be right. Here's an old field gulls article on that and the notorious bandit package.

Said Carroll at the time:

"If you feel okay about your guys rushing, which some teams don't, then they can rush, they can drop, they can cover 'backs. A guy who's on the line of scrimmage can end up being a deep defender and so you just give yourself a variety of things that you can do and interchange some parts and stuff and try to make it difficult."

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2012/7/9/3147 ... big-nickel

 

[Anonymous]

Called it.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

As a product of this move Pete says they will be in Dime alot more with less nickel then before...

And that would mean Clark is at SAM alot more, right?

Teehee!

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Isn't this the mythical "Big Nickel" scheme Pete has been wanting to do for years? Basically being in Dime while being in Nickel at the same time?

So would that be being in a 12??? Dime and Nickel minus taxes....LOL

 

[Tical21]

I'm not sure how I feel about taking KJ Wright off the field on 3rd downs.

 

[pehawk]

I'm not sure how I feel about taking KJ Wright off the field on 3rd downs.

Exactly. Can Browner handle blockers? Gase will test this out...certainly.

 

[Tical21]

I'm not sure how I feel about taking KJ Wright off the field on 3rd downs.

Exactly. Can Browner handle blockers? Gase will test this out...certainly.

We'll find out. Also, Wright is about as good in zone as any LB in the game, is he not? Did he get exposed in his inability to carry the TE down the seam? I don't remember many of those being on him. Hey, I guess it is worth a shot. Kind of disappointed as I wanted to see if Browner could bring back any of that magic at corner. I really loved watching him throw whiny receivers around.

 

[Laloosh]

I'm not sure how I feel about taking KJ Wright off the field on 3rd downs.

Exactly. Can Browner handle blockers? Gase will test this out...certainly.

We'll find out. Also, Wright is about as good in zone as any LB in the game, is he not? Did he get exposed in his inability to carry the TE down the seam? I don't remember many of those being on him. Hey, I guess it is worth a shot. Kind of disappointed as I wanted to see if Browner could bring back any of that magic at corner. I really loved watching him throw whiny receivers around.

Got the impression from the NFL Network's game highlights that the issue is when we went to man and NE got Gronk lined up against KJ or Bobby. Couldn't stay with him to the corner.

They intentionally used a WR to pull Sherm into the slot, leaving the TE 1:1 with a LB (wasn't it KJ?).

 

[pehawk]

I'm not sure how I feel about taking KJ Wright off the field on 3rd downs.

Exactly. Can Browner handle blockers? Gase will test this out...certainly.

We'll find out. Also, Wright is about as good in zone as any LB in the game, is he not? Did he get exposed in his inability to carry the TE down the seam? I don't remember many of those being on him. Hey, I guess it is worth a shot. Kind of disappointed as I wanted to see if Browner could bring back any of that magic at corner. I really loved watching him throw whiny receivers around.

Got the impression from the NFL Network's game highlights that the issue is when we went to man and NE got Gronk lined up against KJ or Bobby. Couldn't stay with him to the corner.

They intentionally used a WR to pull Sherm into the slot, leaving the TE 1:1 with a LB (wasn't it KJ?).

True...but that's Gronk. The fact he beat KJ is what makes him Gronk. Also, Brady wouldn't have even had the time to hit the long seam had Avril still been in.

 

[Laloosh]

True...but that's Gronk. The fact he beat KJ is what makes him Gronk. Also, Brady wouldn't have even had the time to hit the long seam had Avril still been in.

Gronk, Olsen, the TE from Cinci, Gates, etc. What you say is true but I think they just want to plug that hole altogether.

Some of those were coverage breakdowns but the potential is there. I've gotta get to work but someone argue with Pe about this for me.

 

[pehawk]

True...but that's Gronk. The fact he beat KJ is what makes him Gronk. Also, Brady wouldn't have even had the time to hit the long seam had Avril still been in.

Gronk, Olsen, the TE from Cinci, Gates, etc. What you say is true but I think they just want to plug that hole altogether.

Some of those were coverage breakdowns but the potential is there. I've gotta get to work but someone argue with Pe about this for me.

Alot of the instances you listed were actually on Kam, new DC and new secondary (non-groin) member(s)

I'm not disagreeing its a potential hole they should look to fill. I'm more coming from the stance it'll forever kind of be a hole in Pete's scheme. And if/when it's operating correctly, it takes an injury to Avril and the worlds best TE to defeat it, by a slim margin, it may not be as big of an issue as we think.

 

[Tical21]

Olsen splits out a lot and I don't remember KJ being isolated against him outside. Maybe we learned from the Gronk incident and made adjustments to automatically go to zone when the TE goes ISO out wide. We don't really run that much man anyways. Maybe they want to go towards more man, and Browner allows them to do that, where they really can't with KJ against athletic TE's? I dunno. If we're going to be mostly in zone, I want KJ in there. If we're going to play more man, I can see trying something like this. I still don't think we can sit in our cover-3 forever, and this may be part of the evolution.