Penny

[nwHawk]

I honestly don't see why he can't be our Christian McCaffrey. He's not amazing between the tackles either, but the Panthers know how to use him.

Penny simply needs to be a C+ or B between the tackles, and an A+ in space to be a highly valued RB. Some of you are just stuck on the Beast Mode experience, this ain't it

Simply the truth.

This is preseason so I hope the are just trying to improve his overall game. When the regular season starts I expect to see them calling plays to best match his style.

 

[themunn]

Today, 4th and goal from the 1. Last play of the game to win the game. Carson is out. Who do you want to run it?

Pass obviously

 

[RiverDog]

I honestly don't see why he can't be our Christian McCaffrey. He's not amazing between the tackles either, but the Panthers know how to use him.

Penny simply needs to be a C+ or B between the tackles, and an A+ in space to be a highly valued RB. Some of you are just stuck on the Beast Mode experience, this ain't it

McCaffery isn't a bull dozing short yardage back, but he ran between the tackles a lot, and was very good at it. He was the 6th leading rusher in the league. You don't get those kinds of numbers by being a C+ or B runner between the tackles. McCaffery led his team in both receiving as well as rushing yards, finished with 1K yards in both rushing and receiving.

Penny was brought in here to be our workhorse, run between the tackles back. Obviously I don't expect him to perform like Beast, but rather more like the type of back that Chris Carson has become.

 

[Seymour]

I honestly don't see why he can't be our Christian McCaffrey. He's not amazing between the tackles either, but the Panthers know how to use him.

Penny simply needs to be a C+ or B between the tackles, and an A+ in space to be a highly valued RB. Some of you are just stuck on the Beast Mode experience, this ain't it

This is where I'm at with Penny too. Excellent post! :2thumbs:

 

[hawkfan68]

Here is link Penny's stats last season - https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_ ... haad-penny He only had 85 carries but yet amassed 419 yards. His ypc was 4.9. Alternatively, Mike Davis had 112 carries for 514 yards and 4.6 ypc. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3025433/mike-davis. Finally, Chris Carson - https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/39 ... ris-carson.

Penny's production was very much inline with Davis and Carson. If you take into account he had fewer carries. Carson had a great year. Penny was drafted because of team because of Carson's durability concern at the time. Carson was healthy and produced. Penny had a good rookie year. Hopefully he continues the trend of progressing this season. It only helps the Seahawks.

IMO, Penny is like Shaun Alexander while Carson and Davis are like Lynch. It's a preference of style. I like the fact that the Seahawks have backs that can produce with differing styles. When used effectively, they can keep a defense guessing. I think that is what they were seeking with Lynch/Michael but Christine Michael didn't pan out. Penny is much better than Christine M.

Go Hawks.

 

[McGruff]

Davis is more like Tromaine Pope.

 

[McGruff]

Here is link Penny's stats last season - https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_ ... haad-penny He only had 85 carries but yet amassed 419 yards. His ypc was 4.9. Alternatively, Mike Davis had 112 carries for 514 yards and 4.6 ypc. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3025433/mike-davis. Finally, Chris Carson - https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/39 ... ris-carson.

Penny's production was very much inline with Davis and Carson. If you take into account he had fewer carries. Carson had a great year. Penny was drafted because of team because of Carson's durability concern at the time. Carson was healthy and produced. Penny had a good rookie year. Hopefully he continues the trend of progressing this season. It only helps the Seahawks.

IMO, Penny is like Shaun Alexander while Carson and Davis are like Lynch. It's a preference of style. I like the fact that the Seahawks have backs that can produce with differing styles. When used effectively, they can keep a defense guessing. I think that is what they were seeking with Lynch/Michael but Christine Michael didn't pan out. Penny is much better than Christine M.

Go Hawks.

Penny has been quoted on field gulls as averaging only 3.5 yard per carry between the tackles.

But no context was given.

What is league average?

What was Carson?

I cant locate that info.

 

[xray]

He needs to get rolling now . Not next week not next month ...now . Carson was drafted to be a starter. To run inside -outside - over the top -break tackles- and even create his own space when needed . Some here keep saying that Penny needs to have more room to run or he needs to be outside the tackles to run. IMO that seems to mean that the Hawks run game which is pounding the ball into the teeth of the defense ; will have to have special finesse plays just for Penny .
Isn't that what Prosise was drafted for ? If that becomes the case then the Hawks used a 1st round pick on a situational #3 RB .

 

[hawkfan68]

He needs to get rolling now . Not next week not next month ...now . Carson was drafted to be a starter. To run inside -outside - over the top -break tackles- and even create his own space when needed . Some here keep saying that Penny needs to have more room to run or he needs to be outside the tackles to run. IMO that seems to mean that the Hawks run game which is pounding the ball into the teeth of the defense ; will have to have special finesse plays just for Penny .
Isn't that what Prosise was drafted for ? If that becomes the case then the Hawks used a 1st round pick on a situational #3 RB .

Chris Carson was drafted in 7th round (pick# 249). No way was he drafted to be a starter. To his credit he showed he should be the starter, earned it and then got hurt.

 

[Smellyman]

Now we need to throw out long runs by RBs and then see if they are good.

LOL

 

[Ad Hawk]

And we need to throw out any run that comes as a result of scheming to get him the ball in space, because the only valuable starting RB is the one who carries 5ypc between the hash-marks.

 

[McGruff]

And we need to throw out any run that comes as a result of scheming to get him the ball in space, because the only valuable starting RB is the one who carries 5ypc between the hash-marks.

I would still love to see what Carson and Davis averaged between the tackles, and what league average is on inside runs.

I strongly suspect that we would find that everyone averaged less than 5 yards between the tacklea

 

[quadsas]

we'll see if they can utilise him properly. To be fair he seemed to lack vision to get yards even on outside runs, especially on those he reversed the field, which worked out for extra yards, but that's unsustainable. Hope he can deliver, but if they keep trying to make him a smashmouth runner, get him out of here please, get some value while you can, he will never be a Carson type runner, no vision and no conviction

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

Penny looked really good tonight against the Chargers amazing what descent blocking can do for a RB isn't it.

 

[mikeak]

Today, 4th and goal from the 1. Last play of the game to win the game. Carson is out. Who do you want to run it?

Penny
Procise
McKissic
Homer
Turner
none of the above

I’m not sure if Penny wouldn’t be 3rd or 4th on my list.

We are set up to be a smash mouth between the tackle offense right now. If every back is a change of pace back to Carson and we don’t have another between the tackle runner we will be in trouble with any Carson injury. Yes, we can adjust but we usually don’t and certainly not quickly.

RW of course

 

[mikeak]

Penny looked really good tonight against the Chargers amazing what descent blocking can do for a RB isn't it.

I missed the game so glad to hear it

The numbers don't agree so something strange though

 

[erik2690]

Penny looked really good tonight against the Chargers amazing what descent blocking can do for a RB isn't it.

I missed the game so glad to hear it

The numbers don't agree so something strange though

I agree with the numbers. I feel like it's a case of low expectations being out performed. To me he looked okay and maybe a bit better than his numbers but nothing great. I think Homer only looks slightly lesser than him which isn't really ideal for a second year 1st round pick vs a 6th round rookie. I thought he got a little more physical than last week, but this game didn't make me think anything different than before: could be solid, will never likely be nearly worth that pick.

 

[Appleegg1]

Penny-

4.9 ypc career avg.
7.3 ypc playoff avg
HAS NEVER FUMBLED IN HIS NFL CAREER!
Backs up the leagues 5th leading rusher

Despite this, board “experts” declare him a bust. What a joke.
Watch.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Penny looked really good tonight against the Chargers amazing what descent blocking can do for a RB isn't it.

He wasn't "really good" by any stretch. Penny showed some piss poor blocking skills, and he failed to see some wide open holes. His "really good" that he had early in the game is what most starting RB's do on a regular basis. The difference is Penny has shown the inability to do those inside runs constantly.

Penny is the definition of average. He didn't look any better than Homer, and Mckissic. Plus he made more mistakes than the both of them.

Penny won't be anything other than a change of pace back, mark it down right here. I just really don't want him taking carries away from Chris Carson. I'm not convinced that he is any better than Travis Homer either. He definitely isn't anywhere as good as a healthy Prosise (good for a series maybe). The guy just has a lot of glaring holes in his game.

 

[HawkerD]

Penny-

4.9 ypc career avg.
7.3 ypc playoff avg
HAS NEVER FUMBLED IN HIS NFL CAREER!
Backs up the leagues 5th leading rusher

Despite this, board “experts” declare him a bust. What a joke.
Watch.

It is pretty simple. You don’t draft a guy in round 1 to be a back up. It was a reach then and is proving be one as time moves on. He is not a bust in the classic sense but not good pick.