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xray":1m1ikach said:
Thepeelsessions":1m1ikach said:
JayhawkMike":1m1ikach said:
If Carson goes down and Penny is the featured back we will be screwed for all those games.

That simply isn't true, because it's never happened. Let's revisit this if/when Carson goes down.
Homer takes up the slack...won't be Penny . IMHO

I love this time of year :roll:
 

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DomeHawk":18sxyd50 said:
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The one thing I took away from the game against Minnesota, was that their DL has way better depth than Seattle's OL. For a RB like Penny, that's not going to bode well. I agree that Penny needs to be more aggressive, but I don't think he'll ever be as aggressive as we hope he can be, he'll never be like Carson. Since I'm a Penny apologist, I won't label him a bust, but Seattle needs to accept what kind of RB he is and put him in the right situation. Penny is an outside runner, but the problem is, the OL isn't built for outside runs, that's why, so far in his Seahawk career, his potential hasn't been reached. He'd have more success if he were on a team like the Rams, I was excited that we picked him, because I was a fan of his since he was a junior at SDSU, but if he doesn't step up this season, then I'll have to accept the fact that he just wasn't the right RB for Seattle. I don't believe he's a a bad RB at all, but sometimes the system masks the talent. I've said it numerous times, Seattle needs to use Penny like they wanted to use Prosise. So far, from what I've seen, Penny has flashed more as a pass catcher than a pure RB. They also need to use him on kick returns, that's what he excelled at in college, and the fact that they don't want to use Lockett in return duty anymore, is just more reason to make sure they get as much usage out of Penny as they can.

Don't want to be the grammar police or anything but smaller paragraphs make for much easier reading on a forum 12Angry.

I want my lawyer! ;)
 

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Let's give Homer a couple of toss sweeps to the outside.

Penny here are some runs between the tackles behind a crap oline and defenders 2 yards in the backfield.

Penny sucks!
 

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At first I was like whatevs, the backup O-Line wasn't doing him any favors. But When Penny got brought down by a half-hearted single arm tackle, that is when I got pissed.

I am hoping he just played disinterested in this game, and didn't take pre-season game 2 too serious. Because he had the worst game of his life. He looked like an old broken down Shaun Alexander. When he should look like the young Shaun Alexander.

The other backs looked fine playing behind the same O-Line. Which made Penny stick out like a sore thumb.

Not worried yet, but if he looks like that come week 1, there is no defending him.
 

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JayhawkMike":3245p04i said:
If Carson goes down and Penny is the featured back we will be screwed for all those games.

They said that when lynch went down a few years back we did fine. Same when Wilson ended up being our leading rusher, we were fine. There is o ly one offensive player that we are screwed without and it is not an RB.
 

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I'm not going to worry until the regular season . He's had horrible OL play so far . I'd like to see him get more touches with the first unit next game . We know what Carson can do no reason to risk getting him injured imo. I am getting concerned though . He may be just another backup RB maybe not even that we'll see.
 

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Smellyman":nagkcncw said:
Let's give Homer a couple of toss sweeps to the outside.

Penny here are some runs between the tackles behind a crap oline and defenders 2 yards in the backfield.

Penny sucks!

:ditto: Lotta truth right there!
 

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Unlike Carson ; Penny doesn't have an aggressive nature to his runs . He clearly doesn't like to run in traffic . He needs space like everyone seems to agree . Whatever he did in college doesn't matter at this point . He has got to produce yards no matter who is or isn't blocking for him . There are no excuses in the NFL . IMO
 

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chris98251":2un7z2a9 said:
DomeHawk":2un7z2a9 said:
SoulfishHawk":2un7z2a9 said:
We all know that Carson is a hell of a back. Penny should get a shot to run with actual NFL level blocking at some point. It wasn't even close, as far as who was blocking for Carson and who was for Penny.

I don't want to get too down on him but he was running AGAINST 2nd and 3rd stringers too.

"To be totally fair to Penny, there were a couple of plays where there was at least one Vikings player ready to destroy him immediately upon handoff. But Penny had 8 touches for 8 yards and I don’t think he broke a single tackle. He is a very choppy, hesitant runner who badly needs open space, which is why he excelled at toss sweeps but running between the tackles remains a problem for him. Preseason isn’t the sole barometer for player measurement but I’m not that enthused about his two games thus far. Travis Homer was also playing against backups and looked better than Penny. Obviously Rashaad will make the team, he just needs to clean up a lot of problems in his game."

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/8/18/20 ... poona-ford

He needs to run Violent and not passive I Think is a way to describe it.

He needs to run that way ; but I don't think it's in his DNA to do that . I think he hesitates because he doesn't like to mix it up with the big boys between the tackles . He is better suited for plays that he can break free . He is not a physical type runner . He will never be coached into being something he is not . He is just one of the backup RBs . IMO
 

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xray":o3xzgut4 said:
Unlike Carson ; Penny doesn't have an aggressive nature to his runs . He clearly doesn't like to run in traffic . He needs space like everyone seems to agree . Whatever he did in college doesn't matter at this point . He has got to produce yards no matter who is or isn't blocking for him . There are no excuses in the NFL . IMO

In college he had massive lanes to run through, the kind you don't get in the NFL. Penny also was playing against inferior competition. I saw a little hype about Penny after his combine, so I decided to look at the videos that were available. Quite honestly, I don't see what John and Pete saw in Penny. He never was a Marshawn Lynch, Chris Carson sort of runner and I don't think he ever will be. He was more of a finesse back, and despite his broken tackle record, he didn't seem so good at breaking tackles. It surprised me in the videos how easy he would go down even at the collegiate level if somebody got a hand on him. I noticed too in the tapes that he struggled in traffic.

I think the reason why Penny was the pick was simply because they thought they needed a running back. Michel, and Chubbs had some knee problems. I think that they were simply trying to fill a hole.
 

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Too much pre season over analysis bordering on chicken little. I generally agree with McGruff Twisted and Chris.
Penny will be more than fine. Will produce explosive plays. He's a player. Damn good one.
 

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Again, we don't need to use him to run between the tackles for him to be successful for us.

Just use him like we wanted to use Procise.

Let him be the back that catches the ball in the flat and goes for 15-20. A number of RBs in their NFL careers made a mint doing this as their primary damage.
 

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TwistedHusky":3pwzmsjv said:
Again, we don't need to use him to run between the tackles for him to be successful for us.

We will in 2021.
 

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R-E-L-A-X ....Penny will be fine. He is not a top 10 back but has plenty of explosive plays in him this year. I am sure his doubter get it soon enough.
 

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Today, 4th and goal from the 1. Last play of the game to win the game. Carson is out. Who do you want to run it?

Penny
Procise
McKissic
Homer
Turner
none of the above

I’m not sure if Penny wouldn’t be 3rd or 4th on my list.

We are set up to be a smash mouth between the tackle offense right now. If every back is a change of pace back to Carson and we don’t have another between the tackle runner we will be in trouble with any Carson injury. Yes, we can adjust but we usually don’t and certainly not quickly.
 

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I honestly don't see why he can't be our Christian McCaffrey. He's not amazing between the tackles either, but the Panthers know how to use him.

Penny simply needs to be a C+ or B between the tackles, and an A+ in space to be a highly valued RB. Some of you are just stuck on the Beast Mode experience, this ain't it
 

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JayhawkMike":3jwqynxy said:
Today, 4th and goal from the 1. Last play of the game to win the game. Carson is out. Who do you want to run it?

Throw it? :(
 

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Give the guy a chance, he hasn't even started his second season. And he's playing behind a damn good back. If they use him to match his abilities, he flat out can contribute to his team.
 
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