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Worst trade in Seahawks history.

Worst is a bit extreme.

But, I'd take Bobby Jo Edmonds at 30 for us.

I did appreciate Bobby Jo.

 

[Maulbert]

Not even remotely. We traded a should be hall of fame running back for a cornerback that only started one game in his career. He was never good and we traded a should be hall of famer for him.

Hyperbolic much? Green won't make the hall of fame. 9,205 career rushing yards, only 60 rushing TDs, never won a title, fumbled way too much, and was never his team's key to success, that was always Favre. He had one truly great season, in 2003, that's it. The rest of the time, he was a little above average.

 

[AROS]

Loved me some Bobby Jo.

 

[Maulbert]

Hyperbolic much? Green won't make the hall of fame. 9,205 career rushing yards, only 60 rushing TDs, never won a title, fumbled way too much, and was never his team's key to success, that was always Favre. He had one truly great season, in 2003, that's it. The rest of the time, he was a little above average.

Just to add, this is the list of all-time leading rushers not in the Hall: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-rushing-yards-not-in-the-hall-of-fame

Of those guys, the only ones I'm positive eventually make the HoF are Frank Gore, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Lewis, Marshawn Lynch (and that is only because of a title and the Beastquake, IMHO) and Ottis Anderson will eventually make it. I think Fred Taylor, Corey Dillon, and Ricky Watters have got a better than 50% chance to eventually get there. Steven Jackson, Tiki Barber, and Eddie George have outside shots. Shaun Alexander has a better shot purely based on his TD's.

 

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Worst is a bit extreme.


I did appreciate Bobby Jo.

Honestly, the Dorsett trade netted a damn good haul for the hawks...a team that needed draft capital. Notable from that trade:

Terry Beeson: Lead the team in tackles for three consecutive seasons (1977-79), including a still-franchise record 153 in 1978.
Steve August: Started 90 games from 1977-84.

But for those old enough to remember "just a little pinch between your cheek and gums"...Dorsett was the best RB I remember seeing until Barry Sanders came into the league.

 

[chris98251]

Dorsett was going to pull the Manning / Elway / card if we drafted him. That was before Manning and Elway. Little footnote Ahmad Rashad also pulled the similar shenanigan's not wanting to play for an expansion team, how he ended up a Viking before we had a practice.

 

[BASF]

Just to add, this is the list of all-time leading rushers not in the Hall: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-rushing-yards-not-in-the-hall-of-fame

Of those guys, the only ones I'm positive eventually make the HoF are Frank Gore, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Lewis, Marshawn Lynch (and that is only because of a title and the Beastquake, IMHO) and Ottis Anderson will eventually make it. I think Fred Taylor, Corey Dillon, and Ricky Watters have got a better than 50% chance to eventually get there. Steven Jackson, Tiki Barber, and Eddie George have outside shots. Shaun Alexander has a better shot purely based on his TD's.

None of the backs you listed had their first two seasons stunted by a coaching staff that couldn't figure out how to rectify the fumbles. Also, you conveniently left out that four of his later seasons were limited by injury.

Dorsett was never going to play for us.

The Graham trade was torpedoed by the coaching saff that didn't know how to use him, but we got a two time all pro in that trade.

The Adams trade we got a two time all pro in that trade.

The Harvin trade was stupid, but we got a play maker if he was able to play to his potential.

The Vinson trade we got a back up, only started one game and was for the most part ineffective cornerback who never played another down in the NFL.

 

[Maulbert]

None of the backs you listed had their first two seasons stunted by a coaching staff that couldn't figure out how to rectify the fumbles. Also, you conveniently left out that four of his later seasons were limited by injury.

Dorsett was never going to play for us.

The Graham trade was torpedoed by the coaching saff that didn't know how to use him, but we got a two time all pro in that trade.

The Adams trade we got a two time all pro in that trade.

The Harvin trade was stupid, but we got a play maker if he was able to play to his potential.

The Vinson trade we got a back up, only started one game and was for the most part ineffective cornerback who never played another down in the NFL.

No one makes the HoF based on lost potential. I wasn't making trade comparisons, that was LeveeBreak. I just stated a fact. Ahman Green isn't even a borderline HoFer.

 

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We find the funniest stuff to knaw at each other about...pre-season tomorrow!!!! Cannot wait.

 

[GetNjigbaWithIt]

 

[JPatera76]

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if only he didnt go into a mentally downward spiral.... or to be more cynical and play devils advocate if he was held more accountable as well as other players.. (#3)

 

[Maulbert]

if only he didnt go into a mentally downward spiral.... or to be more cynical and play devils advocate if he was held more accountable as well as other players.. (#3)

I truly believe Kam was the glue that kept both Earl and Sherm on track. They both went off the rails a bit when Kam retired.

 

[JPatera76]

I truly believe Kam was the glue that kept both Earl and Sherm on track. They both went off the rails a bit when Kam retired.

pretty sure it was Bobby I've heard say that in interviews as well.

 

[BlueTalon]

pretty sure it was Bobby I've heard say that in interviews as well.

I have no doubt both Kam and Bobby played a role.

 

[BASF]

Curt Warner

 

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Curt Warner

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The man was sooooo smooth. Great vision, elusive, fast and a good receiver. Wish he would have retired a hawk.

 

[Lagartixa]

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I can admit that there were a few years when ETIII was my favorite NFL player.

#29 is now "ETIII's number" for me as much as 10 is "Jim Zorn's number" (tho' I don't mind Nwosu using it at all!) and...

Curt Warner

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...#28 is Curt Warner's number for me.
Warner was a huge part of the magic in the magical 1983 season. His injury in the first game in '84 bothered me a lot. He just seemed so different from every other running back in '83, and I wanted to see him grow as an NFL back. Warner was on the cover of the game program for my first in-person Seahawks game, the one in Foxborough two weeks after Warner's injury.
When Franco Harris showed up in this thread, I mentioned that I saw him play (badly) for the Seahawks in one of my few in-person Seahawks games. I saw the remains of Harris doing nothing of value on the field for the Seahawks because Harris was acquired in the emergency situation generated by Warner's injury.
I did get to see Warner play (and score touchdowns!) in a game I attended two years later, when the Seahawks played in Foxborough again, and he was always one of my favorite players. And I still wonder what he might have become if he hadn't had that injury in the first game of '84. In any case, he had a pretty nice career for the Seahawks and is very clearly the player who has produced the most on the field using #28.

D00dz, four weeks!

 

[Maulbert]

Big Play Babs, the Cowboy Killer.



For your pleasure:

 

[AROS]

Riq Woolen



I pray his knee injury last year was the reason he slumped. If he can stay healthy, I have every reason to believe he will have a terrific trajectory for the rest of his career.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I like Riq…but Jordan Babineaux has one of the most memorable plays in hawk history…and had the pleasure to witness 20 or so rows up from the goal line with romo running toward us.

Great memory!