Obligatory post game OL evaluation thread - Texan

[Exittium]

Ill be happy when we have Fant back next year to be honest.

 

[hawk45]

Second play on that video Reese gets pushed straight into Russ. Russ does his Houdini thing and throws a touchdown. This game was all about Russ. His pocket presence was the best it has been all year long.
Ohdiambo was not good and got a lot of chip blocks to help him out. He is the weakest spot on our line but as Wilson showed today if he is on his game he can overcome that.
His run blocking was HORRIFIC.

Second play of that video Reese is pushed straight into Russ, but because he doesn't give up he punches Clowney into the ground and keeps the play alive. That was a fantastic effort by Odhiambo.

 

[Natethegreat]

Second play on that video Reese gets pushed straight into Russ. Russ does his Houdini thing and throws a touchdown. This game was all about Russ. His pocket presence was the best it has been all year long.
Ohdiambo was not good and got a lot of chip blocks to help him out. He is the weakest spot on our line but as Wilson showed today if he is on his game he can overcome that.
His run blocking was HORRIFIC.

Second play of that video Reese is pushed straight into Russ, but because he doesn't give up he punches Clowney into the ground and keeps the play alive. That was a fantastic effort by Odhiambo.

If you want to give Reese credit for never giving up thats great. Reese was still abused by Clowney all game long.

 

[Palmegranite]

Did you see that throw, and catch by McEvoy? I'm at a loss for the right superlative!! First catch of the season, but what a doozie..

 

[NFSeahawks]

Look at these pockets Wilson had to throw ...
I don't remember seeing these ever.
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Thank You!

Anybody trashing Rees needs to get a clue.

Overall, he held up extremely well 1-on-1 against one of the NFL's top DEs.

Watch some film and you can see for yourself.

Ohdiambo got beat on EVERY... SINGLE... PLAY... IN THIS VIDEO.

What the he** are you watching to see differently.

That being said the rest of the line held up pretty well. Pocic played well.

 

[Hockey Guy]

Definitely the best overall performance by our O-line this season & it seems we are getting a little better each week.

It can be debated whether that's saying much but I truly believe that. If the improvement continues we will be a contender in the NFC & if not then we will be a pretender.

 

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The key with the O-line is the interior is holding up in pass pro, creating a pocket. Now Russ only has to worry about pressure off the edges (mainly his left). Which with RW's mobility creates easy escape lanes, both back door, and front door depending on how the D-Lineman rushes. Before Russ had to worry about interior, and edge pressure, now it is just mainly edge pressure.

For those saying Rees didn't get destroyed. Watch the plays where the Seahawks ran the ball to the left. He got destroyed. They had negative yards when running behind Odhiambo. If that isn't getting destroyed then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Hockey Guy]

The key with the O-line is the interior is holding up in pass pro, creating a pocket. Now Russ only has to worry about pressure off the edges (mainly his left). Which with RW's mobility creates easy escape lanes, both back door, and front door depending on how the D-Lineman rushes. Before Russ had to worry about interior, and edge pressure, now it is just mainly edge pressure.

For those saying Rees didn't get destroyed. Watch the plays where the Seahawks ran the ball to the left. He got destroyed. They had negative yards when running behind Odhiambo. If that isn't getting destroyed then I don't know what to tell you.

Yeah that first & goal from the 4 where the whole D-line right side almost beat RW to the hand off spot was ridiculous. Don't know how 3 guys can all get beat that badly at the same time. Probably the reason we're so terrible in the red zone but especially in first & goal situations this year. We just can't run it.

 

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I will be very surprised if Odhiambo is still starting by years end honestly. He is like Bradley Sowell, but worse, and they didn't roll with him the whole year. They put in basketball player Fant over him. So something will change, it's only a matter of when this season. The Hawks obviously didn't want to disrupt anything with the trade deadline coming up, but once that passes they will have to strongly consider going with Tobin vs. dragging a vet out of retirement. They are trying to buy time due to the salaries being weekly. Lower cap hit the further you get into the season. Paying a vet for 10 weeks versus 7 weeks is a bid deal when you are so tight up against the cap.

 

[davidonmi]

I'm not going to praise any unit that was involved with the run game today.

I don't care if the pass blocking was good (it was mostly) that was unacceptable

 

[renofox]

Ohdiambo got beat on EVERY... SINGLE... PLAY... IN THIS VIDEO.

What the he** are you watching to see differently.

That being said the rest of the line held up pretty well. Pocic played well.

????

I just watched every play. (1v1) indicates Rees 1-on-1 with Clowney.

1. (1v1) Perfect technique, 2.5s to throw and Clowney boxed out perfectly.
2. (1v1) Clowney gets inside move but Rees maintains contact, RW slides left, Rees puts Clowney on his ass, 4.5s to throw.
3. (1v1) Maintains perfect technique for 2s, RW slides right and Clowney is forced to go back around LG to follow, 3.5s to throw.
4. (1v1) Good technique pushing Clowney deep outside past where pocket should be, 10 yard drop by RW allows Clowney to get close but release within 2.5 seconds negates drop/rush.
5. (1v1) Perfect technique, locks up Clowney at LOS with no penetration whatsoever, holds block for 3s until RW throw.
6. Assignment is RDT with chip help, stands up at line, no penetration, perfect technique.
7. (1v1) Perfect technique, maintains complete control of Clowney for 2s quick throw.
8. (1v1) Good technique, maintains acceptable control of Clowney for 2s quick throw.
9. (1v1) HORRIBLE PLAY. Barely diverts Clowney, just enough for RW to step up and make quick completion.
10. (1v1) Good technique, maintains acceptable control of Clowney for 2s quick throw.
11. Interesting blocking scheme (even confused Clowney), assigned to DT and performed double team perfectly.
12. (1v1) Perfect technique, maintains complete control of Clowney for 2.5s throw.
13. (1v1) Poor blocking, controls for only 1s but diverts enough to give RW 2.5s to throw.
14. Gets late help on complicated blocking scheme which had REES move around extra OL to block Clowney. Great footwork and execution.
15. Assignment is RDT, great footwork to get to block location and knock DT off LOS.
16. Play action with Rees showing ZBS right to DT, fools Clowney and blocks his assignment allowing no penetration.
17. (1v1notClowney) Great technique, deep drop by RW (10y) but Rees maintains block 12y deep, allowing RW to step up.
18. (1v1) Maintains block, keeps Clowney out wide and takes him to ground after 3s.
19. (1v1notClowney) Perfect technique, squares up DE and only allows 1-2 yards past LOS for 3s.
20. (1v1) Maintains complete control for 2s quick throw.

That's 20 plays, 13 of which he was 1-on-1 with Clowney, -0- of which he received any help whatsoever blocking Clowney.

Yes, Rees had one horrible play and one bad play. He also had 18 good plays, with the majority showing great play. The majority of the game he was left on an island against one the top pass rushing DE's in the NFL, and he did his job.

I have no idea what you are watching, but it surely isn't the same thing I watched.

 

[toffee]

Ohdiambo got beat on EVERY... SINGLE... PLAY... IN THIS VIDEO.

What the he** are you watching to see differently.

That being said the rest of the line held up pretty well. Pocic played well.

????

I just watched every play. (1v1) indicates Rees 1-on-1 with Clowney.

1. (1v1) Perfect technique, 2.5s to throw and Clowney boxed out perfectly.
2. (1v1) Clowney gets inside move but Rees maintains contact, RW slides left, Rees puts Clowney on his ass, 4.5s to throw.
3. (1v1) Maintains perfect technique for 2s, RW slides right and Clowney is forced to go back around LG to follow, 3.5s to throw.
4. (1v1) Good technique pushing Clowney deep outside past where pocket should be, 10 yard drop by RW allows Clowney to get close but release within 2.5 seconds negates drop/rush.
5. (1v1) Perfect technique, locks up Clowney at LOS with no penetration whatsoever, holds block for 3s until RW throw.
6. Assignment is RDT with chip help, stands up at line, no penetration, perfect technique.
7. (1v1) Perfect technique, maintains complete control of Clowney for 2s quick throw.
8. (1v1) Good technique, maintains acceptable control of Clowney for 2s quick throw.
9. (1v1) HORRIBLE PLAY. Barely diverts Clowney, just enough for RW to step up and make quick completion.
10. (1v1) Good technique, maintains acceptable control of Clowney for 2s quick throw.
11. Interesting blocking scheme (even confused Clowney), assigned to DT and performed double team perfectly.
12. (1v1) Perfect technique, maintains complete control of Clowney for 2.5s throw.
13. (1v1) Poor blocking, controls for only 1s but diverts enough to give RW 2.5s to throw.
14. Gets late help on complicated blocking scheme which had REES move around extra OL to block Clowney. Great footwork and execution.
15. Assignment is RDT, great footwork to get to block location and knock DT off LOS.
16. Play action with Rees showing ZBS right to DT, fools Clowney and blocks his assignment allowing no penetration.
17. (1v1notClowney) Great technique, deep drop by RW (10y) but Rees maintains block 12y deep, allowing RW to step up.
18. (1v1) Maintains block, keeps Clowney out wide and takes him to ground after 3s.
19. (1v1notClowney) Perfect technique, squares up DE and only allows 1-2 yards past LOS for 3s.
20. (1v1) Maintains complete control for 2s quick throw.

That's 20 plays, 13 of which he was 1-on-1 with Clowney, -0- of which he received any help whatsoever blocking Clowney.

Yes, Rees had one horrible play and one bad play. He also had 18 good plays, with the majority showing great play. The majority of the game he was left on an island against one the top pass rushing DE's in the NFL, and he did his job.

I have no idea what you are watching, but it surely isn't the same thing I watched.

Thanks for the detailed breakdown. It seems like our rookie LT could do quite alright in 1v1 situations, opposing DC or line coach will gameplan differently from this point on, different looks to confuse our rookie. Rees seems to pass his Clowney test.

If memory serves, Rees may be ahead of Fant same games into the season.

 

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Edge defender Jadeveon Clowney, 96.6 overall grade

A performance so dominant it’s hard to fathom Clowney didn’t end up on the winning team. It looked a mismatch on paper as he went head-to-head with Rees Odhiambo, and so it proved with Clowney too quick, too strong and just too good for the Seahawks left tackle. He ended the day with a sack, hit and seven hurries as well as two tackles for loss in the run game, with countless victories the stat sheet doesn’t count. Clowney can do it against below average players, but the challenge for him is to do it against better players. Todays pressure totals accounted for 33 percent of his totals on the year.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-seattle-seahawks-41-houston-texans-38

He held up well LOL. Clowney being the highest graded player of the game, possibly the entire league on this day. Rees made him look all-world. Clowney can do it against scrubs, but can't against better players.



Joekel at LT when he comes back, with Pocic staying in at LG is an option as well.

 

[Seymour]

Ifedi got 25 penalty yards in a minute. Couldnt believe it

That is pretty much how Ifedi rolls.

Backwards from the snap. :roll:

 

[Leee-roy]

Three rushing yards by the backs.......Cable needs to go. I'm tired of people saying he has nothing to work with.
He has a lot of say in the draft picks. he just sucks....

 

[hgwellz12]

Any evaluation of our OL? Run block probably sucked, pass blocking OK since Wilson got over 400 yards passing. How about newbie Pocic? Problem child Ifedi?

Pass protect was decent, run blocking sucked.

Couldn't quite figure out if the running games sucked due mostly to OL or our running backs?

50/50
Rawls doesn't let a hole develop and Lacy is too slow to hit them when they do, which isn't often. It's a mess that needs to be remedied swiftly.

 

[pittpnthrs]

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I just watched this video and I cant see how anybody can defend Rees after watching that. Out of all those plays I believe Rees held his own maybe twice to three times. All the others were quick hits, play action, or Clowney flushing Wilson out and Russ making something out of broken plays. Odhiambo got absolutely lambasted by Clowney during that game.

 

[purpleneer]

Wow on the differing assessments of Rees and Clowney in this matchup. I knew there were a lot of people who are bad at evaluating, and that PFF has a number of them, but anyone who agrees with anything close to what's quoted from PFF above has completely devalued their opinion on line play for sure and football in general

 

[purpleneer]

Three rushing yards by the backs.......Cable needs to go. I'm tired of people saying he has nothing to work with.
He has a lot of say in the draft picks. he just sucks....

Yup, and with his influence on all things running game, including probably pushing for Lacy, the game has passed him by and he's been holding this team back for awhile.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Lackluster and terrible running game yet tons of time on PA all day. Russ needs to keep 2-3 times in beginning of game on RO to keep D's honest. Opens up things

You need the running game to not be terrible in order for the RO to work.