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I do think the loss of Dissley was an absolutely huge loss to any chance of mixing in a short passing game. Not only was he our best pass blocking TE as Tamerlane said, but he was also our best short to mid-range receiver. Had he stayed healthy and Gordon continue to get integrated into the offense along with the improved pass blocking as Tamerlane also mentioned, surviving the loss of our top 2 RBs would be far easier. No Duane Brown, no Dissley and no Gordon spells no short to mid-range passing game.
 

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Largent80":1c7yahan said:
Is LOL your response to everything?...If so...LOL @You.

You already know it is not, I just choose not to engage further with that person. As to your retort, whatever floats your boat and makes you happy. Happy holidays.
 

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hawksfansinceday1":1ikjbuv4 said:
I do think the loss of Dissley was an absolutely huge loss to any chance of mixing in a short passing game. Not only was he our best pass blocking TE as Tamerlane said, but he was also our best short to mid-range receiver. Had he stayed healthy and Gordon continue to get integrated into the offense along with the improved pass blocking as Tamerlane also mentioned, surviving the loss of our top 2 RBs would be far easier. No Duane Brown, no Dissley and no Gordon spells no short to mid-range passing game.

Luke Wilson was just down graded for Sunday's game. Another lost option for edge protection help for our offensive tackles.
 

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Jville":gh1zp5sf said:
hawksfansinceday1":gh1zp5sf said:
I do think the loss of Dissley was an absolutely huge loss to any chance of mixing in a short passing game. Not only was he our best pass blocking TE as Tamerlane said, but he was also our best short to mid-range receiver. Had he stayed healthy and Gordon continue to get integrated into the offense along with the improved pass blocking as Tamerlane also mentioned, surviving the loss of our top 2 RBs would be far easier. No Duane Brown, no Dissley and no Gordon spells no short to mid-range passing game.

Luke Wilson was just down graded for Sunday's game. Another lost option for edge protection help for our offensive tackles.
SIGH
 

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Scorpion05":2cjwla64 said:
The point by some here, about how backup lineman are always bad make little sense. If Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers gets hammered like that, even by a backup..they’d be scolded. Front offices who care about their Quarterbacks, go out of their way to protect them. Even with backups.

This isn’t hard, I have zero idea why acknowledging these facts and putting ego aside is so hard amongst Hawks fans. Our O-line is bad, has been bad for years, and that’s unacceptable for most 1st class organizations with a franchise QB. Focusing on the injuries on the O-line, as if this O-line hasn’t been statistically bad for years is intellectually dishonest. Every QB in the league cause SOME sacks, most QBs in the league aren’t asked to face as much consistent pressure as Russ does. This isn’t a reaction to an O-line that was good or great before, and is suddenly struggling with injuries. This is a long, consistent pattern of poor O-line play.

I will always root for the Seahawks. But when we get a new owner, I would like Russ to not re-sign, and move to a team that creates the identity of the team around him. Have a running game, sure. But give him pass blocking O-linemen and maybe Julio, Fitz, Michael Thomas type number 1 receiver. This team has refused, even after Beast left, to TRULY build the team around Russ and it makes zero sense. And it’s tiring to hear fans, who claim they’re “FAIR” to Russell find a way to completely talk around our QB dealing with a bottom 5 O-line. Let’s just stick to being a running team with a cheap QB and a great defense. It doesn’t make sense for Russell to stay on a team where people don’t think it’s an outrage to not only have a poor O-line, but zero O-line depth.

Jville":2cjwla64 said:
John ........ I don't believe you can see beyond Russell Wilson. For you, the rest of the team is but a cast of extras.

And that's ok. It's your choice.


The people who are anti-Russ are worse. In fact, it’s a shame Russ isn’t as universally embraced by the fan base as Lynch is.

Either way, why not allow yourself to be led by the facts? You responded to the thread saying “1 snap out of 50.” Someone responded to you not with their opinion, but an actual fact about what Russ is facing. As a Hawks fan, that should outrage you.

The number of anti Russell fans is about 2. People are critical of him because he's the most important peice to the puzzle and when he messes up it's he should be called out. Just like with any sucsess we ever have he'll get the credit.

People want an average OL? Top 5 in run blocking and bottom 5 in pass blocking = Average

The teams that are better then us right now are not better because they have a better OL, they are better because they play defense.


This is a joke right? If you want to argue that most Seahawks fan support Wilson, fine. But from the moment he was drafted he wasn't fully embraced. And he's been nitpicked and critiqued by fans for years. Even when he played through injuries, even when his O-line was absolute garbage, even when he's had pressure in his face on every drop back. Even when he was the leading rusher on the team. When we made the Super Bowl, for many he was only 10-20% of the reason for our success.

The teams that are better than us win in the trenches. We don't on offense and we don't on defense. Having a good to great O-line is important for any legitimate offense. Not sure how this is debatable. Drew Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, they all have good O-lines that don't kill drives.
 

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Wouldn't mind most of our draft picks next year being offensive linemen.

We might not have s choice.
 

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