O Line

[hugecanoli]

Watch this then imagine next week against a team loaded with talent on their D line.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1208908538195726341[/tweet]

Wow. Backups or not this position group has sucked or been barely mediocre for years.

 

[John63]

Watch this then imagine next week against a team loaded with talent on their D line.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1208908538195726341[/tweet]

Wow. Backups or not this position group has sucked or been barely mediocre for years.

YeH been trying to fix that for 8 years, HC doesn't care about pass blocking.

 

[Jville]

One snap out of 50 plus. Never-the-less, that's going to be a moment of acknowledgement for Jamarco Jones on tell the truth Tuesday or Wednesday on what ever day that review is scheduled.

 

[John63]

One snap out of 50 plus. Never-the-less, that's going to be a moment of acknowledgement for Jamarco Jones on tell the truth Tuesday or Wednesday on what ever day that review is scheduled.

They just said on tv Wilson was hit, hurried or sacked on 12 of his first 15 drop backs. We were ranked 24th in pass blocking going into today. Fyi our 2nd best behind 20th.

 

[Jville]

One snap out of 50 plus. Never-the-less, that's going to be a moment of acknowledgement for Jamarco Jones on tell the truth Tuesday or Wednesday on what ever day that review is scheduled.

They just said on tv Wilson was hit, hurried or sacked on 12 of his first 15 drop backs. We were ranked 24th in pass blocking going into today. Fyi our 2nd best behind 20th.

What does any of that have to do with a response to a specific tweet or the team's upcoming truth-the-truth session.

 

[John63]

One snap out of 50 plus. Never-the-less, that's going to be a moment of acknowledgement for Jamarco Jones on tell the truth Tuesday or Wednesday on what ever day that review is scheduled.

They just said on tv Wilson was hit, hurried or sacked on 12 of his first 15 drop backs. We were ranked 24th in pass blocking going into today. Fyi our 2nd best behind 20th.

What does any of that have to do with the team's upcoming truth-the-truth session.

What

 

[Jville]

John ........ I don't believe you can see beyond Russell Wilson. For you, the rest of the team is but a cast of extras.

And that's ok. It's your choice.

 

[John63]

John ........ I don't believe you can see beyond Russell Wilson. For you, the rest of the team is but a cast of extras.

And that's ok. It's your choice.

Lol yeah that's it, has to be could not be I have a point. Benne watching, playing or coaching over 50 years. I see the whole team better than most of you. I see a team not prepared, not disciplined. Not built around it's best player, relying on last 2nd heroics to win games. Un Willing to go with what works, adjust, undisciplined, unwilling g to fix pro lems that have existed for years. Winning regular season games but never really a contender. That's what they have become. Which is a shame because they could be more if we did what good teams do and adjust to what we have, rather than doing what they want.

 

[cymatica]

That has got to be one of the dumbest decisions I have seen a player make, in any position, it's right up there with the butt fumble... actually it's worse.

Instead of blocking Chandler Jones coming right at him, he decides to let him run free and block his own lineman. Did JJ smoke some of Gordons weed before that play? I really can't imagine what he was thinking.

On top of that, the oline is blocking 5 on 2 in the middle, yet #58 still gets through. Wtf. This coaching staff is a big fail. I have watch injured olines on other teams at least hold their own a little and play smart.

 

[AgentDib]

Pretty funny to see the outrage over a backup missing on a protection. Jones has minimal experience at left tackle in the NFL, played just 35 snaps over the last seven weeks, and had a guy with 15 sacks lining up across from him all day. He messed up a couple of times.

Would it have been nice for our expensive starting left tackle to be healthy instead? Of course.

Do most teams have a better backup left tackle than Jamarco Jones? I doubt it.

 

[Appyhawk]

Football 101; O Line is the foundation of your offense. Build around the QB if you want to, but you better do a good job of it.

 

[RockinHawks]

Why does it take PC an entire football game of his QB getting slammed to admit that he should probably use Fant in that position? So he can save him for a few plays at TE? Gimme a break.

Fant should have started from the first snap. I just don't get how in-game adjustments seem to elude our coaching staff, at times.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Wow. Backups or not this position group has sucked or been barely mediocre for years.

Sometimes I don't think you guys watch any other football. All backups suck, that's why they're backups............especially O-linemen. They have limited skillsets, they're undersized, they're old, they're rookies, on and on. Again, that's why they're not starters.

Very few teams can sustain serious O-line injuries and still have the offense function successfully.

 

[Seymour]

Wow. Backups or not this position group has sucked or been barely mediocre for years.

Sometimes I don't think you guys watch any other football. All backups suck, that's why they're backups............especially O-linemen. They have limited skillsets, they're undersized, they're old, they're rookies, on and on. Again, that's why they're not starters.

Very few teams can sustain serious O-line injuries and still have the offense function successfully.

Most other teams at least have offensive scheme changes that will mitigate the damage done by getting rid of the ball quickly or using rollout and play action to offset the pass rush. We just keep pounding on the brick wall then going deep with Pete ball madness.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Wow. Backups or not this position group has sucked or been barely mediocre for years.

Sometimes I don't think you guys watch any other football. All backups suck, that's why they're backups............especially O-linemen. They have limited skillsets, they're undersized, they're old, they're rookies, on and on. Again, that's why they're not starters.

Very few teams can sustain serious O-line injuries and still have the offense function successfully.

Most other teams at least have offensive scheme changes that will mitigate the damage done by getting rid of the ball quickly or using rollout and play action to offset the pass rush. We just keep pounding on the brick wall then going deep with Pete ball madness.

Pete tried, he went to quick throws and screens yesterday when the run game was getting stuffed late in the 3rd quarter. But when the defense is attacking downhill and blitzing all 8-9 guys in the box and your O-line can't hold their blocks for even a second or two, that fails as well.

I said it in another thread, Pete and John's scheme philosophy of drafting and acquiring ONLY certain types of personnel, it can't succeed outside of those schemes.

You can't succeed in what you don't practice, preach or draft/acquire personnel to do.

 

[Jville]

Wow. Backups or not this position group has sucked or been barely mediocre for years.

Sometimes I don't think you guys watch any other football. All backups suck, that's why they're backups............especially O-linemen. They have limited skillsets, they're undersized, they're old, they're rookies, on and on. Again, that's why they're not starters.

Very few teams can sustain serious O-line injuries and still have the offense function successfully.

The Cowboy offense has struggled mightily when hit by all their injuries to the offensive line.

The Ram's offense is another that fell off with all their injuries to the offensive line.

 

[Seymour]

One snap out of 50 plus. Never-the-less, that's going to be a moment of acknowledgement for Jamarco Jones on tell the truth Tuesday or Wednesday on what ever day that review is scheduled.

One snap?? Not sure what you are watching, or possibly choosing to ignore but here are the real facts over the last 8 years.

Wilson has never had better than #20th in pass blocking his ENTIRE CAREEER in Seattle!!!

Let me re-phrase that. Russell Wilson has never even had AVERAGE pass blocking his entire career in Seattle.

We can no longer blame just Cable as the evidence is clear this is now a Pete Carroll issue with emphasis (obsession) with running game blocking.

Here are the numbers Seattle has been ranked in pass blocking Russ's entire career.

2012 20th
2013 32nd
2014 24th
2015 30th
2016 25th
2017 25th
2018 30th
2019 25th

Average that out folk!!!

We average the # 5.6 worst pass blocking olines over an 8 year period.

Time to take the blinders off and quit giving Pete and John passing grades on oline problems because this is destroying our #1 most expensive asset, the franchise QB. No other franchise qb has anywhere near that piss poor support from his coaching staff, NONE!

Not even close!! ukeface:

 

[hawker84]

Why does it take PC an entire football game of his QB getting slammed to admit that he should probably use Fant in that position? So he can save him for a few plays at TE? Gimme a break.

Fant should have started from the first snap. I just don't get how in-game adjustments seem to elude our coaching staff, at times.

That's an easy one. Because our coaching staff sucks.. including our head coach...

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Let me re-phrase that. Russell Wilson has never even had AVERAGE pass blocking his entire career in Seattle.
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Why would you draft, acquire and develop the personnel for a good pass blocking O-line when your entire offensive philosophy is predicated on running the football.

I get it, we'd all love Pete to be more creative, flexible and versatile when it comes to how he builds, develops and how he schemes. But dude's the oldest coach in the league, that's not going to happen.

When healthy, this team can compete with anyone, and that's the good news. Bad news? When this team's not healthy and hitting on all cylinders? We get destroyed by much better coaches, even with inferior personnel.

That's on Pete, no question about it.

 

[Jville]

One snap out of 50 plus. Never-the-less, that's going to be a moment of acknowledgement for Jamarco Jones on tell the truth Tuesday or Wednesday on what ever day that review is scheduled.

One snap?? Not sure what you are watching, or possibly choosing to ignore but here are the real facts over the last 8 years.

Wilson has never had better than #20th in pass blocking his ENTIRE CAREEER in Seattle!!!

Let me re-phrase that. Russell Wilson has never even had AVERAGE pass blocking his entire career in Seattle.

We can no longer blame just Cable as the evidence is clear this is now a Pete Carroll issue with emphasis (obsession) with running game blocking.

Here are the numbers Seattle has been ranked in pass blocking Russ's entire career.

2012 20th
2013 32nd
2014 24th
2015 30th
2016 25th
2017 25th
2018 30th
2019 25th

Average that out folk!!!

We average the # 5.6 worst pass blocking olines over an 8 year period.

Time to take the blinders off and quit giving Pete and John passing grades on oline problems because this is destroying our #1 most expensive asset, the franchise QB. No other franchise qb has anywhere near that piss poor support from his coaching staff, NONE!

Not even close!! ukeface:

It helps to know what my post was responding too as a matter of courtesy ......... :roll:

One snap out of 50+ game snaps was my response to the tweeted snap >>>>>> [tweet]https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1208908538195726341[/tweet]