Mariners offseason thread 2025-26

[Double Tribble]

Looking at the chart above, The BJ's had a $100m higher payroll than us, and similar revenue. How many clutch hitters could we sign if we upped our payroll another $100m? If you're going to compete, then compete. If not, then just tell us now so we don't have to bother watching any more games and wondering "if this is the year they go all the way."

 

[SoulfishHawk]

2nd least K's in all of baseball. 7-9 contributing. Making contact. Pay attention, M's. THAT is the way an offense should be put together.

 

[getnasty]

Not sure why people think Jerry, Justin and Ownership would change their approach on spending now after what they've been doing just got them 8 outs away from a WS.

I'm hoping they sign Naylor, Polo and trade Castillo for 3B or SS. Feels like Geno will be way to spending for his age.

I could see them moving on from Crawford and rolling with Emerson.

Let Cole Young play 2B.

Figure out how to get 2nd half Julio to be full season Julio.

 

[getnasty]

It's just wild. Any kid little league and up knows when you're up 2-0 in the count you only swing if you get your unicorn pitch. Even if its a strike its likely to be a pitchers strike so take there. I'm baffled there is no coach who talks to him before that at bat and/or he isn't already aware of what to do if not pre at bat at least during the at bat. They threw him 6 balls and he struck out. I love Julio but man that was hard to watch with Cal on deck.

You make it sound so easy.

 

[Ozzy]

You make it sound so easy.

it is easy to just not swing at 2-0. Watch Toronto when they had a game plan every hitter followed the game plan to a tee.

It's not easy laying off a major league slider that starts in the zone and falls off a cliff. It is easy to know when you're up 2-0 to take a pitch and possible multiple pitches and knowing the situation. Every player when asked about that at bat post game seems baffled Julio did what he did. I love Julio and he's an incredible talent that we have locked up and his trajectory is a HOF career if he keeps it up.....but that at bat was terrible and he would say the same thing.

 

[getnasty]

it is easy to just not swing at 2-0. Watch Toronto when they had a game plan every hitter followed the game plan to a tee.

It's not easy laying off a major league slider that starts in the zone and falls off a cliff. It is easy to know when you're up 2-0 to take a pitch and possible multiple pitches and knowing the situation. Every player when asked about that at bat post game seems baffled Julio did what he did. I love Julio and he's an incredible talent that we have locked up and his trajectory is a HOF career if he keeps it up.....but that at bat was terrible and he would say the same thing.

I can't imagine anyone ever telling their best hitter down 1 run in the bottom of the 9th inning to take a 2-0 pitch. Sounds wild.

 

[Ozzy]

I can't imagine anyone ever telling their best hitter down 1 run in the bottom of the 9th inning to take a 2-0 pitch. Sounds wild.

So you think he should've been swinging at 3 pitches 6 inches or more out of the strike zone and strike out in that spot? I find it wild you think anyone would tell him to swing at everything and hope for the best.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

So you think he should've been swinging at 3 pitches 6 inches or more out of the strike zone and strike out in that spot? I find it wild you think anyone would tell him to swing at everything and hope for the best.

I gotta agree. You need baserunners any way you can get them. Make them make a mistake. Don’t do them any favors.

 

[getnasty]

So you think he should've been swinging at 3 pitches 6 inches or more out of the strike zone and strike out in that spot? I find it wild you think anyone would tell him to swing at everything and hope for the best.

Buddy it's Major League Baseball. It's really really hard to hit. It's a great strategy to only swing at strikes. While we're at it let's only swing at center cut fastball.

He's 2-0 and the best hitter on the team, he's gonna be aggressive and should be, it didn't work out, it doesn't 3/4 of the time in baseball.

The HR hit early in the game was also a slider on the outside.

Let's not act like the game was lost on the Julio's last AB. Should be about number 73 on list of things

 

[Ozzy]

Buddy it's Major League Baseball. It's really really hard to hit. It's a great strategy to only swing at strikes. While we're at it let's only swing at center cut fastball.

He's 2-0 and the best hitter on the team, he's gonna be aggressive and should be, it didn't work out, it doesn't 3/4 of the time in baseball.

The HR hit early in the game was also a slider on the outside.

Let's not act like the game was lost on the Julio's last AB. Should be about number 73 on list of things

lol you’re wrong on this. It’s not hard to not swing up 2-0. Every single ex player commenting on the at bat said it was terrible. Julio is a superstar and it was a terrible at bat. Both are objectively true.

No one said it was the only thing that lost the game either, you’re just making stuff up at this point.

 

[getnasty]

lol you’re wrong on this. It’s not hard to not swing up 2-0. Every single ex player commenting on the at bat said it was terrible. Julio is a superstar and it was a terrible at bat. Both are objectively true.

No one said it was the only thing that lost the game either, you’re just making stuff up at this point.

I'm not saying it was a good AB. I'm saying there is no way your best hitter is thinking and shouldn't be thinking about taking when the count is 2-0.

 

[Ozzy]

I'm not saying it was a good AB. I'm saying there is no way your best hitter is thinking and shouldn't be thinking about taking when the count is 2-0.

fair enough I'll agree to disagree at this point.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I think the REAL issue is Dan Wilson and his decision making. He CHOSE to not only use Canzone game after game, but actually pinch hit him in the 9th inning. WTF??? Also, how in the world is bringing in Bazardo, who had pitched the day before and like 4 times already in the series, a better choice than Munoz??? You're BEST high leverage pitcher flat out HAS TO be the one to come in there in the 7th.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Be nice to add another power hitter and is Kade Anderson ready for next Spring or will he be in the farm system for 2 years?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Also, look at the 7-9 hitters in that series. Toronto killed it. The M's 7-9 were putrid.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I hope to too, but ownership and GM are going to need to make a number of smart strategic moves to make it happen:

Baseball has too many variables to be as consistent year to year unless you pay

 

[Sperrydogg]

We had half a bullpen and only a half a dozen real mlb hitters.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Massive opportunity to keep this fanbase fired up. Let Naylor go and watch how quickly people jump off.
This front office doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Have ANOTHER great off season, then I'll believe more. Until then, it's all just talk to me.

 

[sutz]

Massive opportunity to keep this fanbase fired up. Let Naylor go and watch how quickly people jump off.
This front office doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Have ANOTHER great off season, then I'll believe more. Until then, it's all just talk to me.

The buzz seems to be that last year's ending budget will be the starting point this year. That is around $165 mill from what I have read. Let Geno and Polanco go and we'd have around $30 mill to spend. About 2/3 to 3/4 of that could get Naylz in the fold on a 4 yr deal, leaving a few bucks for other needs.

I'd love to see them go farther than that, of course, because if we just do that and call up a couple of rooks to fill the gaps, it could definitely be a step back, which like you say would not satisfy us fans much.

 

[DJrmb]

The buzz seems to be that last year's ending budget will be the starting point this year. That is around $165 mill from what I have read. Let Geno and Polanco go and we'd have around $30 mill to spend. About 2/3 to 3/4 of that could get Naylz in the fold on a 4 yr deal, leaving a few bucks for other needs.

I'd love to see them go farther than that, of course, because if we just do that and call up a couple of rooks to fill the gaps, it could definitely be a step back, which like you say would not satisfy us fans much.

Shouldn't it be more than that? They're also getting the Mitch's off the books and others.

Mitch Haniger - 15.5m
Mitch Garver - 12.5m
Polonco - 10m
Suarez - 4.8m
Naylor - 3.8m
Solano - 3.5m
Moore - 3.1m
Thornton - 2m
Tellez - 1.2m

That's 56.4m there... I know some guys who are arbitration eligible will get raises though like Gilbert and Kirby which will eat into that.