Malik McDowell in "vehicular" accident

[Sgt. Largent]

Jetski, wave runner, motorcycling, ATV....ect all fall under the same category to most.

Go read Pete's tweet again and hopefully you can figure the rest out yourself.

Even if someone agrees that these fall under the same dangerous category (which I don't).............Sherman did it in 2013, after a SB win and multiple Pro Bowls.

He earned the right and team's trust to have a little fun during rookie mini camp. McDowell should have been 100% focused on getting his ass to camp in the best shape of his life ready to take on the world. Not out messing around on a dangerous ATV 10 days before reporting not thinking of the potential consequences to himself and more importantly his new team.........of which he hasn't earned ANYONE'S respect yet.

 

[Seymour]

Jetski, wave runner, motorcycling, ATV....ect all fall under the same category to most.

Go read Pete's tweet again and hopefully you can figure the rest out yourself.

Even if someone agrees that these fall under the same dangerous category (which I don't).............Sherman did it in 2013, after a SB win and multiple Pro Bowls.

He earned the right and team's trust to have a little fun during rookie mini camp. McDowell should have been 100% focused on getting his ass to camp in the best shape of his life ready to take on the world. Not out messing around on a dangerous ATV 10 days before reporting not thinking of the potential consequences to himself and more importantly his new team.........of which he hasn't earned ANYONE'S respect yet.

That was prior to our SB win. Rookie mini camp 2013, and no Pro bowls yet.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Jetski, wave runner, motorcycling, ATV....ect all fall under the same category to most.

Go read Pete's tweet again and hopefully you can figure the rest out yourself.

Even if someone agrees that these fall under the same dangerous category (which I don't).............Sherman did it in 2013, after a SB win and multiple Pro Bowls.

He earned the right and team's trust to have a little fun during rookie mini camp. McDowell should have been 100% focused on getting his ass to camp in the best shape of his life ready to take on the world. Not out messing around on a dangerous ATV 10 days before reporting not thinking of the potential consequences to himself and more importantly his new team.........of which he hasn't earned ANYONE'S respect yet.

That was prior to our SB win. Rookie mini camp 2013.

My point is still valid.

 

[Seymour]

Jetski, wave runner, motorcycling, ATV....ect all fall under the same category to most.

Go read Pete's tweet again and hopefully you can figure the rest out yourself.

Even if someone agrees that these fall under the same dangerous category (which I don't).............Sherman did it in 2013, after a SB win and multiple Pro Bowls.

He earned the right and team's trust to have a little fun during rookie mini camp. McDowell should have been 100% focused on getting his ass to camp in the best shape of his life ready to take on the world. Not out messing around on a dangerous ATV 10 days before reporting not thinking of the potential consequences to himself and more importantly his new team.........of which he hasn't earned ANYONE'S respect yet.

That was prior to our SB win. Rookie mini camp 2013.

My point is still valid.

Missed my edit. No Pro Bowls either yet. First was 2013.

You never earn a right to break a team or contract rule IMO. And to have your coach promote the activity on twitter?? Clearly OK here at least.

 

[mikeak]

There is a difference between getting a jetski out in the lake calmly going around a bit

VS going out and jumping with the thing and going max speed etc

Which did Sherman do?

Now put this in ATV context

Going out on an ATV tour / doing some regular lower speed driving to get to points in the woods etc

is different from

Driving a course in the wood, high speed, lots of turns and ups and downs and under branches

So right now it is all speculation but from the injuries it can be gathered that having a lot of fun going at higher speeds is a lot likelier than not........

 

[Sgt. Largent]

You never earn a right to break a team or contract rule IMO. And to have your coach promote the activity on twitter?? Clearly OK here at least.

How do you know what's in Richard's contract?........and if you think cruising around Lake Washington on a Seadoo with a life jacket on waving to rookies is the same as riding an ATV, then you're just being argumentative.

And yes, even without a SB ring or Pro Bowls, Richard more than earned his coach's respect to maybe bend the rules a little when it comes to this stuff. McDowell hasn't earned anything.

 

[Seymour]

Jeesus....follow the bouncing ball.

I say it is not in his contract, and it is OK with Pete.

Both can be dangerous, depending on conditions. People die and are seriously injured every year on both jet ski or ATV's.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/1...ct-storm-for-recreational-boating-safety.html

....
My point is, many teams have contract clauses about such activity, and looks like we don't. Or at least ours may be more lax than others.

 

[andyh64000]

There is a difference between getting a jetski out in the lake calmly going around a bit

VS going out and jumping with the thing and going max speed etc

Which did Sherman do?

Now put this in ATV context

Going out on an ATV tour / doing some regular lower speed driving to get to points in the woods etc

is different from

Driving a course in the wood, high speed, lots of turns and ups and downs and under branches

So right now it is all speculation but from the injuries it can be gathered that having a lot of fun going at higher speeds is a lot likelier than not........

Well...he hurt himself which tells me he was either riding it in a risky manner (high speed, turns...you know...fun) or had absolutely no idea how to ride. Either way it was epic stupidity for someone in his position...I am talking Jared Goff level stupidity.

 

[Basis4day]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892197785289711616[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892201872500547585[/tweet]

 

[Basis4day]

So, at the very least, we should have word leak of the extent of his injuries soon.

 

[West TX Hawk]

The fact this whole story took nearly 2 weeks to come out is peculiar to say the least. The story of a top draft pick of a perennial playoff team suffers potentially severe season ending facial injuries is kept completely under wraps?? Quite strange.

 

[Josea16]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892197785289711616[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892201872500547585[/tweet]

So as usual a lot of people on this site overreacted or a reporter was reporting gossip and rumor as news? Doesn't anybody follow a prime rule in life anymore? "Believe in nothing you read and half of what you see" or the reverse?

Nobody seems to wait for actual details and fact before making decisions about people they don't know and can't even comprehend their position in life.

 

[Basis4day]

The fact this whole story took nearly 2 weeks to come out is peculiar to say the least. The story of a top draft pick of a perennial playoff team suffers potentially severe season ending facial injuries is kept completely under wraps?? Quite strange.

Not peculiar or strange. This is the same FO that kept the Harvin Tate fight under wraps. This is a good thing.

 

[West TX Hawk]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892197785289711616[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892201872500547585[/tweet]

So as usual a lot of people on this site overreacted or a reporter was reporting gossip and rumor as news? Doesn't anybody follow a prime rule in life anymore? "Believe in nothing you read and half of what you see" or the reverse?

How were people "overreacting"? He's not playing anytime soon because of a poor choice he made. Per NFL.com, they're going to have him here so they can monitor his health and evaluate him themselves. There's no guarantee he'll be playing this year. We hope he does recover of course and can play though.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.co ... a74&sr=amp

 

[mikeak]

Yeah of course he is showing up. The team is probably demanding it

Get back to me when he suits up

 

[mikeak]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892197785289711616[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/892201872500547585[/tweet]

So as usual a lot of people on this site overreacted or a reporter was reporting gossip and rumor as news? Doesn't anybody follow a prime rule in life anymore? "Believe in nothing you read and half of what you see" or the reverse?

Nobody seems to wait for actual details and fact before making decisions about people they don't know and can't even comprehend their position in life.

Lol. I hope you see the irony in your statements combined with your post

You are overreacting and don't have the details and facts to determine the extent of his injuries. He may be ready to go or not ready for months. Showing up at training camp does not answer the question about his status

 

[chris98251]

Being as young as he is and off road he probably didn't think of it as a dangerous thing, he could ride a Mountain bike and have a branch from a rider in front of him whip back and smack him in the face or be on a horse and the same thing happen. When you are that young you tend to think your invincible anyway, it's life's lessons that teaches you vulnerability.

 

[Seafan]

My question has been are his facial injuries lacerations or fractures. Huge difference.

 

[Ruminator]

My hope is that if he's not able to engage in the more physical aspects of practice until he's more healed up, that he's at least well enough to be on the practice field wearing a no-contact red shirt. There's stuff to learn, and that would be better than nothing.

 

[Popeyejones]

Jetski, wave runner, motorcycling, ATV....ect all fall under the same category to most.

Sherman is on a sit-down jet ski.

It takes considerable effort to get yourself thrown off one of those things even if you try, and when you do, it's hard as heck to hurt yourself while doing so also.

Source: When I was 16 or so I spent an entire afternoon trying to throw myself off one, and even when I could, it was nothing but fun. That's not how an ATV or motorcycle works AT ALL.

(to be clear that doesn't mean they're both not claused out in NFL contracts, but I really don't think there anywhere close to the same thing when it comes to potential for injury).