SoulfishHawk
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Someone grab a napkin............
MacDonald riding with Geno
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GeNO has had more than enough chances with this team. Not good enough. Time to move on. Stop living in fear. Stop settling for mediocrity.
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Sub-mediocre is what we would be if we had someone else playing QB in what has been a sh*t show of an offensive scheme for three years (see fired coordinators). Thinking Geno can sling it isnt settling for 'mediocre'. Its understanding the issue.
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Hysterical.
He also hasn't turned water to wine and stone to bread. Both things that would have been more likely than actually getting this team to a post season win since he has been starter, given how atrocious the coaching and play in critical areas NOT QB have been prior to this year. - fired HC and entire staff 2023, fired OC 2024. But Geno should win anyway...
You would be head over heels thrilled to have Trevor Lawrence here, no doubt - he, of one playoff win but not even average play.
But that's all you got? The argument against him has dwindled down to referencing wins on a team that has overall been terrible for 5 years.
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Keasley your undying love for Geno is admirable. Seriously, your loyalty in defending him and finding ways to ascribe zero blame for him is unmatched.
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I say this as someone who does think he is a starting caliber QB in the NFL. Just not at any price.
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I get a serious John63 Russ vibe with some of these Geno defenders.
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geDIOCRE
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This is what these threads always turn into, and I'm sorry, but one side is putting significantly more actual football analysis out than the other in every one of these threads.
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By this logic, we should move on from every single player on the team.
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Maelstrom, going to the film and finding excuses and claiming, (see it wasn't his fault!) isn't actual analysis.
Anyone can do this with any QB. Especially when one wants to. If you want to find fault you will find it. If you want to place blame elsewhere you will find it.
Bottom line is Geno took a lot of sacks that were in fact very avoidable and costly.
Geno threw many back breaking picks in the end zone that cost this team wins. I know I know none of it is Genos fault. We can go round and round and round again.
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The one that you side with no doubt.
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Turning water into wine is exactly how some of you feel though.
I don't get how one side of the fanbase can watch the games on Sunday and come away thinking he's a great QB and the mistakes he makes are either on the coaching, Oline, wrong receiver routes, or whatever while the other side of the fanbase sits there screaming at their TV's for him not to do something he is about to do. It's insane and i've never seen anything like that before on this board (Pete and Russ squabbles were nowhere like this).
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I give him the utmost credit too, but damn.
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Thats ridiculous. You cant do that with any qb.
And only in today's backwards world where 'opinion' is floated as fact, and facts passed off as falsehoods or distractions do arguments like ' he cant win because he never has ' have remotely any credibility.
Watching film provides context to numbers. One qb can throw for 300 yards and 2 tds. Another can throw for 150 1 td and 1 pick. Which one is the better QB? No way to determine that unless you understand the context and watch the film.
One QB can win a sb and be carried by his team. Another can miss the playoffs but be the reason his team was beven close to getting there. Which one is better?
The argument from the GeNo side is based on superficial 'analysis' that ignores the realities of the current team, while instead leaning on statements like - he hasnt won a playoff game in his whole career...
WtH does what he did in NY (an obomination of a team and franchise that finds a way to lose even with one of the all time greats playing qb for them and a stacked roster) have to do with what he has done in Seattle??
And why is it the fact that the team sported league worst rankings in blocking, rushing and play calling since he has been starter doesnt factor in the calculus in the GeNo crowd?
Simple, because most of the justification for not thinking he is good is based on emotion and bias stemming on any number of things NOT related to HIS actual play and HIS performance on the field as a seahawks starter.
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Come on man, you said Team Geno. Stick with it.
Some of us believe in the QB, some don't. It's not some huge tragedy. It has happened with EVERY QB this team has ever had. Including Russ and Matt. Nobody is stupid for having their opinions. I appreciate that people put their feet in the sand and don't budge.
In the end, we are ALL Hawks fans. Even the "geNO haters" want him to win. To think otherwise would be just plain wrong.
He's our QB for now and likely in 2025. It doesn't benefit anyone to hope he fails. Nobody wants him to fail. We all want the team to win. We are not required to believe in the QB, it just doesn't work that way.
Some of us just get tired of the constant excuses. And team geMEH get tired of those who don't believe in the guy.
This is likely never going to change. It's not personal.
Some of us believe in the QB, some don't. It's not some huge tragedy. It has happened with EVERY QB this team has ever had. Including Russ and Matt. Nobody is stupid for having their opinions. I appreciate that people put their feet in the sand and don't budge.
In the end, we are ALL Hawks fans. Even the "geNO haters" want him to win. To think otherwise would be just plain wrong.
He's our QB for now and likely in 2025. It doesn't benefit anyone to hope he fails. Nobody wants him to fail. We all want the team to win. We are not required to believe in the QB, it just doesn't work that way.
Some of us just get tired of the constant excuses. And team geMEH get tired of those who don't believe in the guy.
This is likely never going to change. It's not personal.
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Seems about right. Those wanting Geno gone are playing Chess while the Geno lovers are playing Pickleball.
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Well, while you characters were arguing about this, Geno just threw another interception.
(But it wasn't his fault).
(But it wasn't his fault).
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Beat me to it, James. Nicely done kid 
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I've never wanted Geno to fail. I imagine he will be our QB next year and I'll be rooting for him to do well.
Going to film to prove a point will have inherent bias in it.
You'll be able to find what you want to see. Congrats you have done so.
I know it annoys you because you think your opinion is unassailable and backed by the facts that YOU found. Congrats, I saw some really bad mistakes that cost this team.
Not saying it's all on Geno, not saying he is terrible. I don't think that.
