Macdonald, crazy question!

[toffee]

Before I get mobbed, let me state that I hope Darnold does well.

The question was a bit too direct imo….its crazy to think he’d lose the starting job based on OTAs.

But, at some point, Darnold losing the starting job is a definite possibility.

Yes, he had an amazing year last year. Why did MN let him go? Why are they going with a guy that’s never played a down in the NFL…who is coming off an injury?

It’s too soon to forget that Darnold has been a career backup for the most part.

Again…I hope he does well. I truly do. But, I won’t be shocked if he doesn’t.

John Schneider might agree with you, hence the signing of Drew Lock.

 

[oldhawkfan]

Before I get mobbed, let me state that I hope Darnold does well.

The question was a bit too direct imo….its crazy to think he’d lose the starting job based on OTAs.

But, at some point, Darnold losing the starting job is a definite possibility.

Yes, he had an amazing year last year. Why did MN let him go? Why are they going with a guy that’s never played a down in the NFL…who is coming off an injury?

It’s too soon to forget that Darnold has been a career backup for the most part.

Again…I hope he does well. I truly do. But, I won’t be shocked if he doesn’t.

Responding to the bold part of your post. It’s not a definite possibility that Darnold will lose the starting job at some point. It is a certainty that he will lose the position. Whether that’s this week, this season, next season or in ten years. He will eventually lose the job. He won’t play forever and he won’t live forever.
I’m a teacher and whenever probability comes up in my math classes, I talk a lot about the difference between possibility and certainty. Possibly means it might or might not happen. Certainly means it definitely will happen.
Every single player, past , present and future will eventually lose their job.

 

[toffee]

Expectations and stresses came with expectations, stress is Darnold's you-know-what. He did well with the Vikings when there weren't any expectations. He did less well when the season went well and fans started to have playoff expectations.

Here comes the greatness of Mike Macdonald, he instantly defuse the question.

 

[GemCity]

Responding to the bold part of your post. It’s not a definite possibility that Darnold will lose the starting job at some point. It is a certainty that he will lose the position. Whether that’s this week, this season, next season or in ten years. He will eventually lose the job. He won’t play forever and he won’t live forever.
I’m a teacher and whenever probability comes up in my math classes, I talk a lot about the difference between possibility and certainty. Possibly means it might or might not happen. Certainly means it definitely will happen.
Every single player, past , present and future will eventually lose their job.

No doubt! I’m a Data Scientist…and get where you’re coming from.

I’m speaking in the context of his contract.

And to be transparent, I see Milroe as QB1 by ‘27.

I believe coach’s response was relative to the interceptions in OTAs. It (the question) is somewhat odd in those regards.

 

[DTiempo81]

Before I get mobbed, let me state that I hope Darnold does well.

The question was a bit too direct imo….its crazy to think he’d lose the starting job based on OTAs.

Not even the entirety of OTAs, literally one practice where he had a couple bad throws. The question was absolutely in bad faith. Regardless of whether or not fans are discussing Darnold potentially losing his job for whatever reason, it's ridiculous question to pose to Macdonald after one practice.

But, at some point, Darnold losing the starting job is a definite possibility.

Yes, he had an amazing year last year. Why did MN let him go? Why are they going with a guy that’s never played a down in the NFL…who is coming off an injury?

It’s too soon to forget that Darnold has been a career backup for the most part.

Again…I hope he does well. I truly do. But, I won’t be shocked if he doesn’t.

I don't disagree with this sentiment, at all. The question came with the underlying context that Lock looked good, is there a QB controversy brewing? Macdonald defused it immediately, as he should have. I am not sure how he could have shown more tact, but apparently some people want him to be more "graceful" when faced with a question that is designed to sow discord in the QB room. Salk hides behind "I gotta ask the question"... No he doesn't. He asks the question because he knows it will get clicks/views. Macdonald saw right through his BS and shut it down. The last thing you want is a HC that waffles at that line of questioning.

I think it has been shown already in his MM's short time here, he's willing to make the hard changes if things aren't working.

Darnold may or may not be the QB of the future, we don't know. What we do know is MM showing his confidence in Darnold at this point in the off-season is paramount.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I, unfortunately already watched this. Listening to Florio act butthurt just because Macdonald said what we were all thinking, was pretty pathetic.

He talks way too much to pay attention to. Takes like five minutes to get to his point

 

[DTiempo81]

He talks way too much to pay attention to. Takes like five minutes to get to his point

And he rarely has a salient point. People forget how PFT started out, literally no connections just throwing rumors out to get clicks. Nowadays he's a bit more connected, but the same rumor mongering tactics are still at the root of everything he does.

 

[Smellyman]

Salk sucks. He's a whining 5-year-old who turns EVERYTHING into drama. That's been his thing for over a decade out here.
He got owned, and it was glorious.

I like him.

He prefaced it by saying it was crazy. 'owned' come on

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He was owned. And it was awesome.
Dude is an East Coast blowhard that plays the "look at me, I'm angry" crap. It was funny 10 years ago. He gets loud and whiney like a little kid no matter what the subject is.

 

[Smellyman]

He was owned. And it was awesome.
Dude is an East Coast blowhard that plays the "look at me, I'm angry" crap. It was funny 10 years ago. He gets loud and whiney like a little kid no matter what the subject is.

 

[DTiempo81]

He was owned. And it was awesome.
Dude is an East Coast blowhard that plays the "look at me, I'm angry" crap. It was funny 10 years ago. He gets loud and whiney like a little kid no matter what the subject is.

I liked Salk back when him and Brock were just starting out. He had an outsiders perspective, which balanced our Brock's homerism. He then left to run another station, and the Hawks won the SB while he was gone. When he came back (after getting run out of town at the new job) he was bitter, and that's never really gone away.

 

[flv2]

Your starting QB is your starting QB...until he isn't. Darnold is due $37.5M and Lock is due about $2.75M. The team will stand behind Darnold until it is absolutely forced into a change. Even if Darnold were to look awful throughout preseason he'll still likely be the Week 1 starter. No HC is going to say there's an open competition. That could potentially cause a rift with the GM.

...and i'm not saying Darnold will look awful.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

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Salk is an idiot. Sorry if I hurt your feels.

 

[chris98251]

You would think that the defense was just a bunch of powder puffs, they were pretty good by seasons end, rather than lynch Darnold maybe a bit of credit to the defense.

 

[Atradees]

Coach threw a brush back pitch. People have the same stupid questions over and over trying to create a problem or a story. Our coach is more badass than we have had.

 

[glenwo2]

Yes, he had an amazing year last year. Why did MN let him go? Why are they going with a guy that’s never played a down in the NFL…who is coming off an injury?

Answer to both questions :

Because JJ McCarthy was ALWAYS going to be their QB.

Even before his injury(knee surgery) that sidelined him for the season, Kevin O' Connell proclaimed that they have their Franchise QB when referring to McCarthy.



I've said this elsewhere and I'll say it here :

Sam Darnold was always on borrowed time in Minnesota.

He would have had to go win a SuperBowl last season for the Vikings to move off their McCarthy plan.


THAT'S why they let him go and are going with McCarthy.

 

[GemCity]

Answer to both questions :

Because JJ McCarthy was ALWAYS going to be their QB.

Even before his injury(knee surgery) that sidelined him for the season, Kevin O' Connell proclaimed that they have their Franchise QB when referring to McCarthy.



I've said this elsewhere and I'll say it here :

Sam Darnold was always on borrowed time in Minnesota.

He would have had to go win a SuperBowl last season for the Vikings to move off their McCarthy plan.


THAT'S why they let him go and are going with McCarthy.

I get that. I saw you post this elsewhere as well.

But….Darnold had a great season. If they believed in him, they wouldn’t have ‘stuck’ to this plan. We’re talking a zero NFL snaps rookie coming off a somewhat major injury.

You don’t let a guy that had a season Darnold had, at 14-3, just walk because you had a plan.

It certainly adds uncertainty into the mix. If we had a QB take us to 14-3, I doubt we’d let him walk. Hell, we were trying to re-sign Geno and he didn’t win near as many games. Geno, before the end of his Seattle stint, was a career backup as well.

The playoff performance of Darnold may have been the nail in the coffin? I don’t know…….I’m still curious. Plan or no plan…Darnold had a helluva season.

I’m happy we got him. I do hope he keeps up last seasons performance level. With Geno leaving, Darnold was the most desired replacement. I’m not mad…not knocking the FO for a seemingly great signing.

It’s just ‘weird’ to me. It drives the “what does Minnesota know that the Seahawks don’t’ question.

 

[Jac]

I get that. I saw you post this elsewhere as well.

But….Darnold had a great season. If they believed in him, they wouldn’t have ‘stuck’ to this plan. We’re talking a zero NFL snaps rookie coming off a somewhat major injury.

You don’t let a guy that had a season Darnold had, at 14-3, just walk because you had a plan.

It certainly adds uncertainty into the mix. If we had a QB take us to 14-3, I doubt we’d let him walk. Hell, we were trying to re-sign Geno and he didn’t win near as many games. Geno, before the end of his Seattle stint, was a career backup as well.

The playoff performance of Darnold may have been the nail in the coffin? I don’t know…….I’m still curious. Plan or no plan…Darnold had a helluva season.

I’m happy we got him. I do hope he keeps up last seasons performance level. With Geno leaving, Darnold was the most desired replacement. I’m not mad…not knocking the FO for a seemingly great signing.

It’s just ‘weird’ to me. It drives the “what does Minnesota know that the Seahawks don’t’ question.

I think they were between a rock and a hard spot with Darnold. I don't think it was a condemnation of him at all. Ideally, they'd have him come back on a one-year deal and run it back, but that probably wasn't doable. That would have also set back McCarthy's development by another year. Overall, they would have needed to give him a Seahawk contract, which would then derail McCarthy and their 'QB rookie contract' era.

 

[Natethegreat]

I get that. I saw you post this elsewhere as well.

But….Darnold had a great season. If they believed in him, they wouldn’t have ‘stuck’ to this plan. We’re talking a zero NFL snaps rookie coming off a somewhat major injury.

You don’t let a guy that had a season Darnold had, at 14-3, just walk because you had a plan.

It certainly adds uncertainty into the mix. If we had a QB take us to 14-3, I doubt we’d let him walk. Hell, we were trying to re-sign Geno and he didn’t win near as many games. Geno, before the end of his Seattle stint, was a career backup as well.

The playoff performance of Darnold may have been the nail in the coffin? I don’t know…….I’m still curious. Plan or no plan…Darnold had a helluva season.

I’m happy we got him. I do hope he keeps up last seasons performance level. With Geno leaving, Darnold was the most desired replacement. I’m not mad…not knocking the FO for a seemingly great signing.

It’s just ‘weird’ to me. It drives the “what does Minnesota know that the Seahawks don’t’ question.

They know they spent a high first round pick on a QB they believe in.
This doesn't mean Darnold is bad nor does it mean he will work out. It just means they invested their future elswhere and that decision was made before Darnold was ever signed as a back up.

 

[Runscott]

Answer to both questions :

Because JJ McCarthy was ALWAYS going to be their QB.

Even before his injury(knee surgery) that sidelined him for the season, Kevin O' Connell proclaimed that they have their Franchise QB when referring to McCarthy.



I've said this elsewhere and I'll say it here :

Sam Darnold was always on borrowed time in Minnesota.

He would have had to go win a SuperBowl last season for the Vikings to move off their McCarthy plan.


THAT'S why they let him go and are going with McCarthy.

You have a good point, but I think winning a Super Bowl would have just complicated the issue for Darnold. Nick Foles even has a Super Bowl MVP trophy. Carson Wentz got healthy and that was that.