Jimmy Graham Sucked Today

[2_0_6]

Jimmy is going to sign with the 49ers next year along with Kirk Cousins and show us twice a year how he should have been used.

 

[netskier]

And you wouldn't be frustrated if you were Graham with this offense? He's a TD machine being asked continually to help block for the olines inefficiency. That's like buying a sports car and using it to haul trash to the dump. Fix the oline and everything will follow suit.

I see it the same way. Sportscars are crappy, soft trash trucks. What happened to the Seahawks finding the best ways to employ players?

Just don't trade him to the Pats where the Gronkowski/Graham tandem would win for years.

I think play him as a WR, and let Willson and Vannett fill the TE blocking role.

 

[netskier]

Jimmy is not happy here for several reasons.........if I told you my post would be deleted.

I'd love to hear what you have to say. PM?

I would also love to hear what you have to say. PM?

 

[netskier]

Jimmy is going to sign with the 49ers next year along with Kirk Cousins and show us twice a year how he should have been used.

Ugh!. I hate your prediction, because it sounds so scary. But it is probably not smart to trade an almost unstoppable weapon such as he is, to the Niners in the NFC West. But I think we will likely see Graham show us this somewhere else.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Jimmy is going to sign with the 49ers next year along with Kirk Cousins and show us twice a year how he should have been used.

Ugh!. I hate your prediction, because it sounds so scary. But it is probably not smart to trade an almost unstoppable weapon such as he is, to the Niners in the NFC West. But I think we will likely see Graham show us this somewhere else.

We already ripped the soul clean out of one of their TE's, leaving him a shell of his former self forever, I'm sure we're willing to do it again if need be, even to Jimmy.

 

[semiahmoo]

Jimmy is going to sign with the 49ers next year along with Kirk Cousins and show us twice a year how he should have been used.

Ugh!. I hate your prediction, because it sounds so scary. But it is probably not smart to trade an almost unstoppable weapon such as he is, to the Niners in the NFC West. But I think we will likely see Graham show us this somewhere else.

We already ripped the soul clean out of one of their TE's, leaving him a shell of his former self forever, I'm sure we're willing to do it again if need be, even to Jimmy.

What a hit!

 

[CodeWarrior]

Jimmy is not happy here for several reasons.........if I told you my post would be deleted.

Yeah, please share! PM if you feel the info warrants it.

 

[mistaowen]

Jimmy is going to sign with the 49ers next year along with Kirk Cousins and show us twice a year how he should have been used.

Ugh!. I hate your prediction, because it sounds so scary. But it is probably not smart to trade an almost unstoppable weapon such as he is, to the Niners in the NFC West. But I think we will likely see Graham show us this somewhere else.

We already ripped the soul clean out of one of their TE's, leaving him a shell of his former self forever, I'm sure we're willing to do it again if need be, even to Jimmy.

What a hit!

I wanted to come into this thread again defending Jimmy but all I can do is be amazed at how Kam literally ruined the career of Vernon Davis. That hit is incredible.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Wanting to trade Graham for an offensive lineman is like wanting to sell your mildly broken car in order to pay off some bills.

Well now he's broken, but if he ever gets healthy then I disagree, he has value.

You don't think some pass heavy contenders would give up a quality lineman or pick for Graham? I do.

First, no, I don't.

Second, it's not about what they'd give up. It's about the fact this team still needs a tall target. Sure, he's not cutting the mustard right now. But get rid of him and you just...lack a tall target. Leaving Wilson with fewer people to throw to. He targeted Graham 7 times vs the Packers. Each of those times might have been hits or sacks without Graham.

 

[hawk45]

Wanting to trade Graham for an offensive lineman is like wanting to sell your mildly broken car in order to pay off some bills.

Well now he's broken, but if he ever gets healthy then I disagree, he has value.

You don't think some pass heavy contenders would give up a quality lineman or pick for Graham? I do.

First, no, I don't.

Second, it's not about what they'd give up. It's about the fact this team still needs a tall target. Sure, he's not cutting the mustard right now. But get rid of him and you just...lack a tall target. Leaving Wilson with fewer people to throw to. He targeted Graham 7 times vs the Packers. Each of those times might have been hits or sacks without Graham.

Didn't hurt us in 2015.

Isn't hurting us now, in the red zone certainly. Because we don't throw at him there, or at least we don't make him a focal point.

Better blocking would definitely help in the red zone. And every other play call.

I agree nobody is going to give us much straight up for rent-a-Graham, in all likelihood. Package him with our low first and they might talk turkey, and I'd agree to that so fast I'd hang up before they could change their minds and unplug the phone.

 

[Seahawks Guy]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

 

[scrummymustard]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

 

[Seymour]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

 

[cymatica]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

Reminds me of Shawn Alexander on a play action

 

[scrummymustard]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

Don't see all of these negatives on the all-22, guess we will agree to disagree. Exaggerate much?

 

[Seymour]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

Don't see all of these negatives on the all-22, guess we will agree to disagree. Exaggerate much?

No, in fact I don't. Watch football much?

Hugh Millen and Mike Holmgren also pointed this out and agreed this week. Start at the 16M mark if you care to learn something...just for beginners.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-...being-non-factor-and-russell-wilson-28471631/

 

[Siouxhawk]

I'm pretty sure Jimmy was third on the team in targets last year, so he's obviously being used correctly. And as far as blocking in pass pro, Russ's health mandated that plan be implemented. And his extra blocking protection was one factor that allowed Doug and later Lockett and Richardson to have solid seasons.

 

[scrummymustard]

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

Don't see all of these negatives on the all-22, guess we will agree to disagree. Exaggerate much?

No, in fact I don't. Watch football much?

Hugh Millen and Mike Holmgren also pointed this out and agreed this week. Start at the 16M mark if you care to learn something...just for beginners.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-...being-non-factor-and-russell-wilson-28471631/

Yea I've watched the game 4 times, twice today with the All-22, funny how the media and you were able to see all of that from just the broadcast angle before the all-22 came out.

Typical overreaction Monday.



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[Seymour]

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

Don't see all of these negatives on the all-22, guess we will agree to disagree. Exaggerate much?

No, in fact I don't. Watch football much?

Hugh Millen and Mike Holmgren also pointed this out and agreed this week. Start at the 16M mark if you care to learn something...just for beginners.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-...being-non-factor-and-russell-wilson-28471631/

Yea I've watched the game 4 times, twice today with the All-22, funny how the media and you were able to see all of that from just the broadcast angle before the all-22 came out.

Typical overreaction Monday.

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You think Millen and Holmgren have the same level of film access as you do? Also, much of the analysis is coming from game 1 as well, not just this game. But hey, you are the expert, so carry on.

 

[semiahmoo]

Just trade him for an average tight end that is an average blocker and average receiver. We need tight-ends who can block so that we can have a run game and some pass protection.

He already is an average blocker. Its just that every time he makes 1 mistake, it gets ridiculed and the narrative continues...he blocked over 30 times last game, and 2 weren't adequate. Watch the film.

That was after he was called out for his effort in game 1. Also, watch his route running when he is not getting the ball. 3/4 speed, rounded cuts, nothing inspires a double team because he telegraphs through effort the play is going elsewhere. Negates any advantage to helping other receivers.

I caught that about him as well the last game. If the play is going to the other side Jimmy isn't selling his route at all.

It's the kind of thing that gets a kid pulled off the field at the high school level let alone the NFL.

Something weird going on w/him and I'm a Jimmy G. fan.