Jim Harbaugh Says Ray McDonald Will Play On Sunday

[Marvin49]

Why would they release the report from a previous incident but not the current one? I am so confused.

Because I'm guessing it isn't complete? Dunno for sure.

Initial report is certainly complete. They don't finish an investigation before filing an arrest report.

Good point. Incident in May tho consisted only of what happened that night and there were no arrests. Maybe they are more thorough when there is an arrest and so many witnessed?

Dunno.

 

[Laloosh]

Why would they release the report from a previous incident but not the current one? I am so confused.

Because I'm guessing it isn't complete? Dunno for sure.

Initial report is certainly complete. They don't finish an investigation before filing an arrest report.

Good point. Incident in May tho consisted only of what happened that night and there were no arrests. Maybe they are more thorough when there is an arrest and so many witnessed?

Dunno.

I had assumed that they may withhold the report to protect victims but releasing something that involves the same parties from a recent incident sort of undermines that.

 

[hawknation2014]

Why would they release the report from a previous incident but not the current one? I am so confused.

Because I'm guessing it isn't complete? Dunno for sure.

What a pathetic excuse.

 

[lsheldon]

Funny that the police are already releasing statements on the Dwyer case but nothing on the McDonald case, even after all this time. Of course the police and DA in AZ aren't bought off by the Cardinals organization.

 

[Marvin49]

Funny that the police are already releasing statements on the Dwyer case but nothing on the McDonald case, even after all this time. Of course the police and DA in AZ aren't bought off by the Cardinals organization.

Yes, yes. I know. Conspiracy and corruption. I know.

It's like a Tom Clancy novel.

 

[Marvin49]

Why would they release the report from a previous incident but not the current one? I am so confused.

Because I'm guessing it isn't complete? Dunno for sure.

What a pathetic excuse.

Dunno if you understand this, but I'm guessing you are asserting that it's being delayed to help the 49ers. Kinda faulty logic there. McDonalds mother is on record for being angry that they are dragging their feet.

What's the theory here anyway...that the DA is lagging to help the 49ers....how exactly? Just curious how creative this BS gets.

 

[Popeyejones]

Funny that the police are already releasing statements on the Dwyer case but nothing on the McDonald case, even after all this time. Of course the police and DA in AZ aren't bought off by the Cardinals organization.

Ughh. The SJPD released a public statement within 12 hours of McDonald being arrested. It's how we know she had bruising on her arms and neck.

As for this additional new boring spin around the conspiracy carousel, for what I guess is the last time I'll play naive enough to treat the trolling of Marvin as if it's actually based on a sincere question:

*The SJPD released a public statement about the August arrest of McDonald right after it happend. They didn't release the full police report as a matter of policy because it's an ongoing investigation and because of the public nature of the case during that ongoing investigation.

*Through investigative reporting the local news media (in this case Matt Maoiocco, who unlike Kawakami and the Cohns is actually a reporter, and a pretty good one) ferreted out that RM and his GF had another incident back in May.

*Since then Maoiocco and CSN have been hounding the SJPD to release this report, as although they only want it because it relates to an ongoing investigation, it's not itself part of an ongoing investigation.

*Today the SJPD released this report with the names redacted.

*Maoiocco confirmed through other sources that the redacted names were RM and his GF (he already knew all this, he just needed the police report to report it rather than all the hearsay he already had because he's actually a legit reporter).

That's it. What it means though is that the conspiracy theory is going to have to magically and miraculously flip from why the SJPD was trying TO get this report out to why they were trying to KEEP IT from getting out. With a little creativity I'm sure that can be explained away as a meaningless detail.

In any case, I'm out. Best of luck to the Hawks this year. :th2thumbs:

 

[Scottemojo]

So the May incident was no longer under investigation, and it still had not been released? And when released, the names were redacted? Even though it was no longer under investigation?

Yeah, those police are real forthcoming.

 

[huskylawyer]

Funny that the police are already releasing statements on the Dwyer case but nothing on the McDonald case, even after all this time. Of course the police and DA in AZ aren't bought off by the Cardinals organization.

Crazy Joe is the Sheriff down there. He is a complete media whore.

 

[Scottemojo]

Funny that the police are already releasing statements on the Dwyer case but nothing on the McDonald case, even after all this time. Of course the police and DA in AZ aren't bought off by the Cardinals organization.

Crazy Joe is the Sheriff down there. He is a complete media whore.

Was he involved? He is Maricopa county Sheriff, not Phoenix police.

 

[huskylawyer]

Funny that the police are already releasing statements on the Dwyer case but nothing on the McDonald case, even after all this time. Of course the police and DA in AZ aren't bought off by the Cardinals organization.

Crazy Joe is the Sheriff down there. He is a complete media whore.

Was he involved? He is Maricopa county Sheriff, not Phoenix police.

Phoenix is in Maricopa isn't it? Who knows, but he still crazy lol.

But I must admit seeing Dwyer in a pink prison suit gives me a chuckle.

EDIT: Dwyer was booked into Maricopa County Jail,. Uh oh lol.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Have the Niners signed Ray Rice yet?

 

[loafoftatupu]

Yes, yes. I know. Conspiracy and corruption. I know.

It's like a Tom Clancy novel.

Except the Clancy novel is fiction. Pretty easy to dismiss the thought that the system is corrupt in any way, however there is an element of the unusual. You can argue the reasons all you want.

It's not overly complicated.

911 is called.
Woman found with bruises.
RM arrested for the charge of felony DV, not a misdemeanor crime and released not on his own PR, but by bail.

There are only two options, either the bruises were made by the victim herself or by someone else. No one else has been arrested, including the victim for filing a false report, because there was a report filed and arrest was made.

If it were just a mistake, the police can easily default to making an arrest to diffuse the situation and release RM without bail. This can be done without going before a judge. RM made a statement that the truth will come out, not that he was setup or that someone else made the bruises that led to his arrest.

So in today's world, specifically the local court system does it really take this long to gather the information to formally charge RM or not? Didn't think so.

Arrest reports are made public everyday, from theft, to mischief, to murder. Heck... George Zimmerman had a manipulated recording of the 911 call made public and that involved a minor, but in central CA a DV case involving adults is forbidden from the public.

You see, to me the interesting part is that the Niners aren't acting on whether or not RM actually abused his girl, they are waiting to see if RM is prosecuted or convicted of it. Two totally different things.

 

[Largent80]

Okay, so back in May in another fight McDonald's pregnant girlfriend got a gun, cocked it, and held it up to her stomach/womb. He called 911 but she had fled by the time the police arrived, and the case wasn't pursued.

This doesn't tell us a damn thing about what happened in August, but their relationship sounds like a mess.

My wife is a marriage and family therapist, maybe forward Mickey D's info?

 

[Marvin49]

Yes, yes. I know. Conspiracy and corruption. I know.

It's like a Tom Clancy novel.

Except the Clancy novel is fiction. Pretty easy to dismiss the thought that the system is corrupt in any way, however there is an element of the unusual. You can argue the reasons all you want.

It's not overly complicated.

911 is called.
Woman found with bruises.
RM arrested for the charge of felony DV, not a misdemeanor crime and released not on his own PR, but by bail.

There are only two options, either the bruises were made by the victim herself or by someone else. No one else has been arrested, including the victim for filing a false report, because there was a report filed and arrest was made.

If it were just a mistake, the police can easily default to making an arrest to diffuse the situation and release RM without bail. This can be done without going before a judge. RM made a statement that the truth will come out, not that he was setup or that someone else made the bruises that led to his arrest.

So in today's world, specifically the local court system does it really take this long to gather the information to formally charge RM or not? Didn't think so.

Arrest reports are made public everyday, from theft, to mischief, to murder. Heck... George Zimmerman had a manipulated recording of the 911 call made public and that involved a minor, but in central CA a DV case involving adults is forbidden from the public.

You see, to me the interesting part is that the Niners aren't acting on whether or not RM actually abused his girl, they are waiting to see if RM is prosecuted or convicted of it. Two totally different things.

BS.

First off...I was referring to the SC DA is corrupt with the Tom Clancy novel comment. More conspiracy theory.

As for the rest...there are ALOT of ways she could have been bruises rangling from Ray McDonald hitting her with an uppercut, him grabbing and shaking her, him slamming her against a wall, to her injuring herself, to her falling down, to him defending himself when she came after him (and the may incident involved HER having a gun and HIM calling 911).

WE DON'T KNOW. Stop pretending that there are only two possibilities because that's BS. Those are simply the only two you are willing to consider.

I saw peeps here make the same rationalization when it came to Colin Kaepernick saying stuff like "well its obvious there are only two possibilities...he raped her or he was drugging her and setting her up for his friends". Peeps thought that because they jumped to conclusions with very little facts. BTW...THOSE reports ALSO took a very long time to come out and it took 69 days to clear Kaps name (his dad counted). That was also Florida with no vested interest in 49ers football.

This is the same crap.

I completely disagree with your final line there but it's useless arguing it because as you will say I'm a fan who will see the best in his team but the reverse is also so obviously true that you will always assume to worst possible case and motive.

Don't act like you aren't making the assumptions you are making because there are no other possibilities.

 

[Largent80]

Marvin and Popeye....Rush down to Wal-Mart....Maybe you will run into Harbaugh...

 

[RichNhansom]

Anyone else ever notice how much amazing detail Popeye seems to always have with never providing any kind of link to back it up?

I have a feeling that link may just direct you to the Webzone.

 

[Largent80]

Here is the link.....er....pic....

 

[lsheldon]

Marvin and Popeye....Rush down to Wal-Mart....Maybe you will run into Harbaugh...

Is that the Walmart in Santa Clara? 95% off, great deal on grease rags.

 

[loafoftatupu]

BS.

First off...I was referring to the SC DA is corrupt with the Tom Clancy novel comment. More conspiracy theory.

As for the rest...there are ALOT of ways she could have been bruises rangling from Ray McDonald hitting her with an uppercut, him grabbing and shaking her, him slamming her against a wall, to her injuring herself, to her falling down, to him defending himself when she came after him (and the may incident involved HER having a gun and HIM calling 911).

WE DON'T KNOW. Stop pretending that there are only two possibilities because that's BS. Those are simply the only two you are willing to consider.

I saw peeps here make the same rationalization when it came to Colin Kaepernick saying stuff like "well its obvious there are only two possibilities...he raped her or he was drugging her and setting her up for his friends". Peeps thought that because they jumped to conclusions with very little facts. BTW...THOSE reports ALSO took a very long time to come out and it took 69 days to clear Kaps name (his dad counted). That was also Florida with no vested interest in 49ers football.

This is the same crap.

I completely disagree with your final line there but it's useless arguing it because as you will say I'm a fan who will see the best in his team but the reverse is also so obviously true that you will always assume to worst possible case and motive.

Don't act like you aren't making the assumptions you are making because there are no other possibilities.

Fail.

There ARE only 2 possibilities. Regardless of the reasons.

1. The GF did something to put the bruises there.

2. Someone else did something to put the bruises there.

I didn't say RM did it. I said that he was the only one arrested for the charge of felony DV.

That's it Marvin. There just isn't anymore. That is unless of course the Bruise Fairy made a visit (Entirely possible in the Bay Area) So if you want to go there, be my guest.

"Stop pretending"?

Your telling me to stop pretending? That's some epic stuff right there.

You see, aside from The Faithful, there are a great number of people that understand that "we don't know" is the Niner way of saying that it hasn't been proven in a court of law. Again, following the belief that as long as RM isn't prosecuted, that nothing happened. There are those that argue RM could have made the bruises defending himself, but on the neck? Even so... REALLY? RM has a party and amongst all the Niner players, RM has to defend himself from his preggo girlfriend, but none of the players saw ANYTHING.

LOL.. SURE.