Is Wilson worth $33M per year?

[Seymour]

Wilson's Baseball rights are now with the Yankees, bigger Market for him to leverage his outside football interests, it's business for him as well as football. This could get more interesting then we realize when it gets closer. were talking 33 million now, he has another year correct, Rodgers is getting I think I posted 176 million thru 2023, Wilson may ask for 200 million for about the same length when it comes time.

Wilson has no "leverage" from another market. That is all publicity and hype (because of his football stardom). Fact of the matter is he is not good enough to make any sort of living at any other sport other than football.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

People are still talking about baseball? Still? :34853_doh:

X, You STILL are talking about his height? And he's not a good pocket passer? The numbers and success proves different. He's never missed a snap or a practice. He has the most wins of ANY QB in history over his first 6 seasons. He's one play from being a back to back Super Bowl champion. But yeah, let's dwell on his height.
If he was 6'2" and had the same exact success, you would be talking about how great he is, period.
Drew Brees is MAYBE 6 feet tall, MAYBE. But I guess that's different because he's an inch taller than Russ.
Dear god make it stop............can the season just start already :irishdrinkers:

 

[MontanaHawk05]

It hamstrings the rest of the team, and while a QB is vital to the success of a team....

A quarterback is the team. The Patriots are terrible without Tom Brady. The Packers would be 4-12 perennially without Aaron Rodgers. This is the reality the NFL rules have constructed. We need to deal accordingly.

Wilson is going to be the Graham/Kam/Earl/Sherman dilemma all over again. Yes, they cost too much. But good luck replacing them.

 

[SpokaneHawks]

The answer is yes. How many SuperBowls has Aaron Rodgers won? How many of you "12's" were around before Wilson? Because it took the franchise 36 years to find the right QB, I'd say that makes him worth every cent.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

People are still talking about baseball? Still? :34853_doh:

X, You STILL are talking about his height? And he's not a good pocket passer? The numbers and success proves different. He's never missed a snap or a practice. He has the most wins of ANY QB in history over his first 6 seasons. He's one play from being a back to back Super Bowl champion. But yeah, let's dwell on his height.
If he was 6'2" and had the same exact success, you would be talking about how great he is, periodat Baseball.
Drew Brees is MAYBE 6 feet tall, MAYBE. But I guess that's different because he's an inch taller than Russ.
Dear god make it stop............can the season just start already :irishdrinkers:

Fixed it for you. :stirthepot: :twisted:

P.S. I saw the shot, there was no danger, so I took it. I hope there was no danger. :rumble:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Proud that I'm not a "12", Hawks fan since day 1, 1976.
Don't need a number placed on me. :irishdrinkers:

 

[Sgt. Largent]

He is because of two reasons;

1. You don't have a QB of his elite talent or potential talent currently on the roster.
2. Without Russell we're a six or less win team.

We've had this conversation before, is Russell worth it? The only conclusion until you draft or acquire another young stud is................yes.

 

[Boycie]

You pay what the market price is at the time you have to pay it. RW is a top tier QB, and those don't grow on trees.

RW has proven that he can take a team and win a game all by himself, and that is a special talent. Pay the man!

 

[xray]

NO :!:

 

[Rat]

How many of you "12's" were around before Wilson? Because it took the franchise 36 years to find the right QB, I'd say that makes him worth every cent.

We've had some legitimately good QBs in the past. None were better than Wilson, but they weren't the reason the Seahawks hadn't won a Super Bowl either.

I agree that you pay Wilson though. There's few advantages in sports greater than having a QB who isn't making much, but we can't just hope to find another one. QBs taken after the first round historically have a very, very low success rate. Pay the elite QB, work your scouting department to death to finding cost-effective options at other positions.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Keep telling yourself that X, you couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Seahawks Guy]

Not pointing any fingers but there are quite a few here that start hand wringing when RW doesn't get top 5 or elite status in the media. If we want a good QB we are going to have to pay for him. I obviously cant prove it but I don't think we win a SB in 2013 without RW.

I’ll do it for you. We don’t win the Super Bowl in 2013 without Russell Wilson.

But do we win the 2013 Super Bowl if Russell Wilson was earning 20+ million a year that year?

Look guys, I love RW. And there's a lot of variables to look at. I'm probably wrong, because I'm sure there's a reason why NFL front offices value QBs as high as they do. I want to keep him. But there's also this other side to me that wonders if QBs are really worth the amount they get paid in terms of winning games/championships.

Part of me thinks that QBs and to a lesser extent other RBs and WRs tend to be overpaid in terms of their value to winning games. And I think merchandise and ticket sales are the opposing force in that compromise. Owning a team is a business first and foremost. You gotta keep your fans happy and buying stuff. Winning helps, but it's not the only factor.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well, they don't come close to making EITHER Super Bowl without him so............

 

[Sac]

Ultimately the answer depends on what you think of Wilson as a QB. If he is a franchise QB and one of the top 5 or so in the league then yes you pay him.

This is part of what makes this question so silly. Russ isn't just a "top 5 QB." At some point Carson Palmer was a top 5 QB. Russ is a future hall-of-famer. No, it's not too early to make that declaration.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I agree that you pay Wilson though. There's few advantages in sports greater than having a QB who isn't making much, but we can't just hope to find another one. QBs taken after the first round historically have a very, very low success rate. Pay the elite QB, work your scouting department to death to finding cost-effective options at other positions.

Yep, and it's one of the deficiencies of how Pete and John draft. They've been terrible at drafting and developing QB's.

Which to be fair, most teams are bad at it, cause there just isn't a lot of quality NFL caliber QB's coming out of college. I think that's why we traded for Hundley, Pete sees him as someone he can develop.

But the fact is if you don't want to pay Russell, then you have to have his replacement on the roster and ready to go. Or else you turn into all the other bottom feeder teams in the league wasting 1st round picks on QB's hoping they're good.

 

[Seymour]

Not pointing any fingers but there are quite a few here that start hand wringing when RW doesn't get top 5 or elite status in the media. If we want a good QB we are going to have to pay for him. I obviously cant prove it but I don't think we win a SB in 2013 without RW.

I’ll do it for you. We don’t win the Super Bowl in 2013 without Russell Wilson.

But do we win the 2013 Super Bowl if Russell Wilson was earning 20+ million a year that year?

Look guys, I love RW. And there's a lot of variables to look at. I'm probably wrong, because I'm sure there's a reason why NFL front offices value QBs as high as they do. I want to keep him. But there's also this other side to me that wonders if QBs are really worth the amount they get paid in terms of winning games/championships.

Part of me thinks that QBs and to a lesser extent other RBs and WRs tend to be overpaid in terms of their value to winning games. And I think merchandise and ticket sales are the opposing force in that compromise. Owning a team is a business first and foremost. You gotta keep your fans happy and buying stuff. Winning helps, but it's not the only factor.

Absolutely NOT! The reason we had a decent Oline (even though they were league worst at pass blocking) is because they "bought it" with the highest paid oline in the NFL in 2013). I've brought this up many times, that Pete's philosophy was flawed thinking they could develope guys. That has never been the case since Fable was brought in, :141847_bnono: :177692:

 

[Rat]

But do we win the 2013 Super Bowl if Russell Wilson was earning 20+ million a year that year?

Damn, I want to call you stupid, but this is a really good point.

 

[Boycie]

But do we win the 2013 Super Bowl if Russell Wilson was earning 20+ million a year that year?

Damn, I want to call you stupid, but this is a really good point.

But the real question is, would we have made it to the SB that year if he wasn't under centre?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

But do we win the 2013 Super Bowl if Russell Wilson was earning 20+ million a year that year?

Damn, I want to call you stupid, but this is a really good point.

Yes, because other than Cliff Avril, the entire defense was still on their rookie contracts.

People blame Russell for the dip in success after he signed his big contract...........but that's not taking into account the fact that we also paid guys like Kam, Sherman, Bennett, Avril, Bobby and KJ, MOST of which never played up to the level of their contract.

At least Russell's continued to get better and became an elite QB.

 

[Rat]

But do we win the 2013 Super Bowl if Russell Wilson was earning 20+ million a year that year?

Damn, I want to call you stupid, but this is a really good point.

But the real question is, would we have made it to the SB that year if he wasn't under centre?

My brain can't handle that kind of conflict. It hurts too much.