GemCity":1pmdqutk said:Great question and somewhat predictable answers on .net.
Comparing to TB? He’s referred to as the GOAT for a reason. That’s like saying Walter Payton was so-so compared to Barry Sanders and perhaps isn’t an all-time great.
Someone will say he’s not on a Montana or Marino level yet another will say he’s only won one SB (if you don’t know, Marino has zero).
What I’m saying is…answers will be objective in nature but, the numbers don’t lie. Russ has already set quite a few records which is even more amazing considering he has not played in a pass heavy offense.
Look at the attempts. Look at the TD/INT ratio. Look at the W-L record (another point that will be argued down to this being mainly due to defense).
Yes. He’s an all-time great QB. Numbers don’t lie. People do.
Statistics have to be tempered unless they are overwhelming.
Wins are a team stat as much as QB.
The post season drop off is what kills Wilson. What Sherman said recently is what I've been saying since 2015.
The bigger issue here with Wilson is suddenly starting in 2019, "cooking" did lead to much more regular season success than before. Maybe it had to do with Lockett and DK maturing at the same time. Wilson throwing more actually lead to more wins early in the year instead of losses.
Bigger picture - some aspects of Wilson's game are all time great. But more than not, a lot aren't. He's a ******* anomaly for a QB. His height is the least anomalous thing about him really.
He somehow can lead the NFL in TD passes in a season and also lead an offense that is #1 in punts per drive. How is that even possible?
Wilson's greatest strengths are the lowest leveraged aspects to beating a defense (deep balls and scramble drill plays). Even the very best cannot convert every deep attempt close to what short and intermediate passing greatness will give you.
Steve Young would eviscerate Wilson in the short and intermediate passing game. That 49er WCO '92-'98 was something to behold. If Wilson is a better deep ball thrower or improviser than Young it isn't by much. Those Young highlights (and Montana) were plentiful with the deep ball. So overall, who is the better QB?
Same could be said for Aaron Rodgers versus Wilson. Rodgers' only real weakness is what's between his ears, but not one thing physically.
Wilson's weaknesses are actually critical in keeping him from being a truly great QB. His physical strengths are nice but they're not the foundation of what you want in a great QB.
Does anyone give a shit that RG3 and Kaepernick were the all time best at running in a straight line with some head of steam? Lamar is world class in making the argument that 11 on 11 football is possibly championship worthy and it still isn't enough for his Ravens.
Wilson has just never been a great move the chains, rhythm QB. At his best I would say he's pretty good, but not great, not even close.
An all time great is really not supposed to have any glaring weaknesses, excluding mobility.