I'm on a roll tonight - screen passes

[King Dog]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

 

[907Hawk]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

You are butter holmes.

 

[Anthony!]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

yes general good things do happen when we run them which is why our OC doesn't run them much

 

[Russ Willstrong]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

You are butter holmes.

Butter?..PARKAY..... :2thumbs:

 

[Siouxhawk]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

yes general good things do happen when we run them which is why our OC doesn't run them much

Or maybe our QB doesn’t read them that well.

 

[adeltaY]

Read them? You act like you're passing deeper then throw the ball to the RB. Anyone notice that the majority of screens have gone to Mike Davis? Does the coaching staff think he's the only one who can run them??

 

[cymatica]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

yes general good things do happen when we run them which is why our OC doesn't run them much

Or maybe our QB doesn’t read them that well.

Maybe our OC is not good at calling plays. Your trolling is getting a little too obvious though you should tone it down.

 

[Anthony!]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

yes general good things do happen when we run them which is why our OC doesn't run them much

Or maybe our QB doesn’t read them that well.

Anything to protect DB, again even the experts have been wondering were that have been, and when we do run the OUR QB, has done a great job with them so that would make your statement false.

 

[johnnyfever]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

yes general good things do happen when we run them which is why our OC doesn't run them much

Or maybe our QB doesn’t read them that well.

Maybe our OC is not good at calling plays. Your trolling is getting a little too obvious though you should tone it down.

The Troll has been proved flat out wrong at this point. Not sure if he thinks being stubborn and wrong is better, but he is giving it a hell of a try. We have been specific with this guy time and time again, but he just doesn't get it. Probably ignore function like half this site has already done is probably in the future. Mind boggling to the point of possible psychosis.

 

[FidelisHawk]

Back to the original post, I my alcohol fuzzed brain seems to recall recall three, sort of, screens being called this past game. One was a center screen called back for lineman down field (timing problem), another was a well designed (I thought anyway) wide receiver screen with Mckissic going in motion (for no gain) and the other, granted, was more of a swing pass (to Mckissic), but it did gained about 10 yds.

The problem is it doesn’t matter if the OC calls enough screen passes, running plays, intermediate passes or a deep passes if the outcome is no gain, incompletion, interception, fumble or a holding call.

Once the Seahawks get behind the chains it become increasingly harder for them to utilize the few play makers they have.

The absence of any respect for a running game (and why should anyone respect their running game?) makes even passes behind, close to, or around the line of scrimmage more difficult to execute.

 

[AgentDib]

For a screen pass to work it needs to be executed well and go to a player who can take advantage of space. Unfortunately, Prosise just hasn't worked out for us and I imagine we'll be replacing him this off season. Davis has provided a huge lift here in the interim, and so if you want to see screen passes you should be hoping he can stay healthy.

 

[FidelisHawk]

For a screen pass to work it needs to be executed well and go to a player who can take advantage of space. Unfortunately, Prosise just hasn't worked out for us and I imagine we'll be replacing him this off season. Davis has provided a huge lift here in the interim, and so if you want to see screen passes you should be hoping he can stay healthy.

I think Mckissic fits that description, albeit smaller than Prosise. I just feel there are more problems that just that.

 

[Seymour]

Would like to see some screen passes to McKissic. Guy gets to his top speed in like 3 steps. Maybe I'm wrong, but when we actually do run them, good things seem to happen.

yes general good things do happen when we run them which is why our OC doesn't run them much

Or maybe our QB doesn’t read them that well.

Attention SiouxHawk. You are now approaching an epic thermonuclear meltdown having to resort to tearing down Wilson to protect your beloved Bevell.

You were better off sticking to "He's doing what Pete ask's of him" line.....

ENOUGH :141847_bnono: :177692:

 

[TwistedHusky]

Funny enough, we used to have a guy named Marcel Reece who was TREMENDOUS at getting yardage from screen passes.

But we apparently don't need a FB, because why use a FB when Lacy will get you all the yards you want?

 

[cymatica]

Back to the original post, I my alcohol fuzzed brain seems to recall recall three, sort of, screens being called this past game. One was a center screen called back for lineman down field (timing problem), another was a well designed (I thought anyway) wide receiver screen with Mckissic going in motion (for no gain) and the other, granted, was more of a swing pass (to Mckissic), but it did gained about 10 yds.

The problem is it doesn’t matter if the OC calls enough screen passes, running plays, intermediate passes or a deep passes if the outcome is no gain, incompletion, interception, fumble or a holding call.

Once the Seahawks get behind the chains it become increasingly harder for them to utilize the few play makers they have.

The absence of any respect for a running game (and why should anyone respect their running game?) makes even passes behind, close to, or around the line of scrimmage more difficult to execute.

I will go back to what my eyes tell me. We don't disguise our playcalls enough and there is almost no rhythm to the playcalls. Bevell will wait too long to call a screen, then he will call them in bunches, then forget about them. If the run game starts out slow we abandon it completely. Too much zig when it should be zag.

 

[AgentDib]

Reece was great with screens for sure. It looks like he's pretty much done but he hasn't officially retired.

I don't think McKissic and Russ have the timing down very well this year but I could see McKissic as a good third down option for us next year with another offseason. Davis, McKissic, and a rookie is probably decent competition for the position entering training camp.

 

[FidelisHawk]

Back to the original post, I my alcohol fuzzed brain seems to recall recall three, sort of, screens being called this past game. One was a center screen called back for lineman down field (timing problem), another was a well designed (I thought anyway) wide receiver screen with Mckissic going in motion (for no gain) and the other, granted, was more of a swing pass (to Mckissic), but it did gained about 10 yds.

The problem is it doesn’t matter if the OC calls enough screen passes, running plays, intermediate passes or a deep passes if the outcome is no gain, incompletion, interception, fumble or a holding call.

Once the Seahawks get behind the chains it become increasingly harder for them to utilize the few play makers they have.

The absence of any respect for a running game (and why should anyone respect their running game?) makes even passes behind, close to, or around the line of scrimmage more difficult to execute.

I will go back to what my eyes tell me. We don't disguise our playcalls enough and there is almost no rhythm to the playcalls. Bevell will wait too long to call a screen, then he will call them in bunches, then forget about them. If the run game starts out slow we abandon it completely. Too much zig when it should be zag.

That may be true, but without going back and logging every play he’s called for the last seven years (I’m going to do that imagine how long that post would be) it’s hard to say one way or the other.

It does seem odd though, his play calling worked effectively three, four, five years ago, but lately not at all. That simple fact would lead me to conclude there’s something (or things) else responsible for the recent decline.

 

[Seymour]

Reece was great with screens for sure. It looks like he's pretty much done but he hasn't officially retired.

I don't think McKissic and Russ have the timing down very well this year but I could see McKissic as a good third down option for us next year with another offseason. Davis, McKissic, and a rookie is probably decent competition for the position entering training camp.

Hey!!!!
What about CJ Prosise?

 

[AgentDib]

What about CJ Prosise?

On a serious note, I don't really want to see Rawls or Prosise in training camp next year. I don't like blaming players for injuries but there's just too much there to be able to count on them in September.

The TCU RB Kyle Hicks may be an interesting late-mid round pick as a hybrid runner/receiver who could probably play a little FB too.

 

[rossob]

Back to the original post, I my alcohol fuzzed brain seems to recall recall three, sort of, screens being called this past game. One was a center screen called back for lineman down field (timing problem), another was a well designed (I thought anyway) wide receiver screen with Mckissic going in motion (for no gain) and the other, granted, was more of a swing pass (to Mckissic), but it did gained about 10 yds.

The problem is it doesn’t matter if the OC calls enough screen passes, running plays, intermediate passes or a deep passes if the outcome is no gain, incompletion, interception, fumble or a holding call.

Once the Seahawks get behind the chains it become increasingly harder for them to utilize the few play makers they have.

The absence of any respect for a running game (and why should anyone respect their running game?) makes even passes behind, close to, or around the line of scrimmage more difficult to execute.

I will go back to what my eyes tell me. We don't disguise our playcalls enough and there is almost no rhythm to the playcalls. Bevell will wait too long to call a screen, then he will call them in bunches, then forget about them. If the run game starts out slow we abandon it completely. Too much zig when it should be zag.

That may be true, but without going back and logging every play he’s called for the last seven years (I’m going to do that imagine how long that post would be) it’s hard to say one way or the other.

It does seem odd though, his play calling worked effectively three, four, five years ago, but lately not at all. That simple fact would lead me to conclude there’s something (or things) else responsible for the recent decline.

Well, that's the main problem with our coaching staff. It's not that they don't have a good plan on how to do stuff but that they seemingly only have one plan and are unable or unwilling to adjust to new situations and players.
Plays just work better if everyone hasn't seen them five years in a row and stuff that used to work with a good run game doesn't work anymore without it.