Hyder released

nanomoz

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
7,835
Reaction score
1,792
Location
UT
Mizak":4trdipnv said:
https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-releasing-veteran-defensive-end-carlos-dunlap

So Seahawks purged the DEs in Mayowa, Dunlap, and Hyder. Do Seahawks have more DEs to purge?

Rasheem is a free agent. As it stands, Taylor, Nwosu, and Alton Robinson are the only edge-capable guys on the roster, right?

And Taylor and Nwosu are kind a linebacker hybrid/leo types. Or, if we're hearing things correctly, they're 34 OLBs. Which is great.

But if they're going full-34, I still don't think they have any proper 5-techs on the roster. Maybe Collier could be one? I don't have high hopes. Maybe Poona?
 

94Smith

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 4, 2018
Messages
1,597
Reaction score
1,003
Maybe the niners will sign him back but my bets would be on the Jets
 

Frozenropers1

Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2022
Messages
51
Reaction score
35
5-techs: QJefferson, Shelby Harris, Collier, Maybe Poona?
Nose Tackles: Mone, Woods, Poona?
 

AgentDib

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
5,557
Reaction score
1,352
Location
Bothell
nanomoz":37tqacyx said:
But if they're going full-34, I still don't think they have any proper 5-techs on the roster. Maybe Collier could be one? I don't have high hopes. Maybe Poona?
QJeff can play the traditional "okie" 3-4 two gap DE. I don't know if that's what we're going to be running much though. Fangio has been very creative with his front packages and I would bet more often than not we'll have one 5 tech two gapper and one 4i one gapper. There's also an interesting article on a Broncos blog about their popular "Cheat 9" package which sometimes had no DEs.
 

jammerhawk

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 5, 2007
Messages
10,933
Reaction score
2,555
I'd not be surprised to see Green re-signed on a short term basis.
 

94Smith

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 4, 2018
Messages
1,597
Reaction score
1,003
And he's back! Hyder was a product of the 49ers defensive front. I'm glad he is back on the team as a rotational player
 

HawkFreak

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 30, 2009
Messages
2,101
Reaction score
1,419
Cool. It felt like the team either never used him or he was completely invisible on the field.

Is there not way to evaluate players and at least somewhat determine if they are a product of the current situation, scheme, etc. that they are playing in (ie - Hyder with the 9ers) and if they would be a fit in the situation / scheme they are coming into.
 

nanomoz

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
7,835
Reaction score
1,792
Location
UT
Hyder just wasn't a fit. I'm sure he'll have some good snaps with the Niners.
 

sdog1981

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 16, 2009
Messages
3,367
Reaction score
240
Kerry Hyder is good for 8 sacks every 4 seasons. 8 sacks in 2016 and 8 in 2020. 1 sack all other seasons. Seahawks should have waited until 2024 to get him
 

Pandion Haliaetus

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2013
Messages
3,976
Reaction score
994
5-techs: QJefferson, Shelby Harris, Collier, Maybe Poona?
Nose Tackles: Mone, Woods, Poona?
I was thinking the starters would be in retrospect to the Red Bryant days:

Jefferson, Ford, Woods

Jefferson and Woods got the most length at 6-4, 80+ Inch wing spans. Guys that you’d want to stand their ground in the run game but also disrupt passing lanes.

Jefferson isn’t a carbon copy of Bryant and that’s okay because he’s good enough to still hold his edge although might not force double teams but provides much better pass-rush and penetration than Bryant.

Woods and Ford, respectively, are pretty damn comparable to what we had in the lengthy, big-bodied Alan Branch/Tony McDaniel and the shorter, stouter Mebane. Both Ford and Mebane share similarities as guys who provide sneaky penetration and do well in pursuit.

Harris is good enough to start but he’s the best pass-rusher in the DLine group. I see him filling a similar role to Michael Bennett if it was 2013 as an inside/outside pass-rusher that can come in to spell Jefferson or Woods in the base.

Speaking of 2013: Although, I suspect Alton Robinson will back-up Darrell Taylor, he doesn’t necessarily fit as he might too undersized to be a big end and not agile enough (Nwosu possesses a nifty probably sub-elite or elite 7.05 3-Cone) to fill a big LBer role as a primary. Robinson could fill a similar situational pass-rush role Cliff Avril had in 2013 which is fitting as Avril is one of his mentors. And he gives you a player that can base DE in a situational 4-3 if needed.

Mone likely fits as a backup to Ford and Woods as well as a key contributor in Jumbo packages.

Collier is tricky to project maybe he can be the Clinton McDonald of the group. Collier isn’t as quick, strong, or explosive but they both have similar ht/wt comps coming out Collier is more longer. I’m hoping guys like Jefferson and especially Harris can help Collier (and fans) realize what he could become as a player and just put those expectations of what he needs to be as 1st rounder behind him and just be a dependable rotational player that could grow into a starter someday.

Note: as I said in other threads I’m not implying the Seahawks are running a re-tread of the 2011-2013 defenses, I just think the Run Defense will take a similar approach to the Red Bryant 5tech days but the Passing Defense will be more creative and adaptive to modern offenses.
 
Last edited:

Fanatics

Active member
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
214
Reaction score
40
Kerry Hyder is good for 8 sacks every 4 seasons. 8 sacks in 2016 and 8 in 2020. 1 sack all other seasons. Seahawks should have waited until 2024 to get him
Both of those years, his position coach was the same dude.
 
Top