Gotta say,.........Michael Bowie is WAY overrated

[themunn]

only error I can see is sweezy.
spelling a guy's name wrong hardly counts

 

[w00t]

McQuistan is the one who is over-rated. The fact that he's even on the field is a joke.

yup :th2thumbs:

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

We need better backups at both LT and RT. These younger guys aren't up to the task.

Bailey and Bowie are both 21 years old and late round/ udfa rookies. Let them grow before you knock them down. They have talent, they just need the experience.

Its not the same has Robert Turbin, Sidney Rice, or McQuistan who've had showed us they have had talent to play in the previous year but now are looking like scrubs.

 

[Happypuppy]

I'm happily with Bowie and his play. He us working with a backup center too. Yes he looks a bit lost at times but it will improve with play.

He is not getting physically bear most are mental errors. McQ is horrid at LT. when you are keeping your TE on his side to help block says a lot,with a rookie on the right

 

[Mtjhoyas]

Considering how a plethora of recently, highly drafted OL have sucked, I say it might be wise to give him more than 2 starts before we define him and his future. Thankfully, my boss gave me more than 2 weeks to adapt to my job.

I know everyone wants instant satisfaction, but give these guys a chance. Every team in the NFL wants better OL play and better depth.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

We need better backups at both LT and RT. These younger guys aren't up to the task.

Bailey and Bowie are both 21 years old and late round/ udfa rookies. Let them grow before you knock them down. They have talent, they just need the experience.

Its not the same has Robert Turbin, Sidney Rice, or McQuistan who've had showed us they have had talent to play in the previous year but now are looking like scrubs.

How can two players go from good to being 'scrubs' in one off season? Put some thought into it. I'm sure you can come up with a better answer than saying they suddenly forget how to play. What is the most glaring weakness on our offense right now? Very covenient to grade players in a vacuum, is it not?

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

We need better backups at both LT and RT. These younger guys aren't up to the task.

Bailey and Bowie are both 21 years old and late round/ udfa rookies. Let them grow before you knock them down. They have talent, they just need the experience.

Its not the same has Robert Turbin, Sidney Rice, or McQuistan who've had showed us they have had talent to play in the previous year but now are looking like scrubs.

How can two players go from good to being 'scrubs' in one off season? Put some thought into it. I'm sure you can come up with a better answer than saying they suddenly forget how to play. What is the most glaring weakness on our offense right now? Very covenient to grade players in a vacuum, is it not?

One if you're going to request an argument from me it would be awesome if a) you can name the two players you are referring to b) not put words in my mouth unless you are saying my argument would be that they forgot how to play.

Rice is looking like a scrub this year, case in point Kearse and Willson look better as receivers than Rice. He's making big bucks to put up quality numbers, and he doesn't have fighter's mentality that made him successful at jump balls like he did in 2012. For the catches Doug Baldwin has made by himself this year, he has made Rice look like a sack of potatoes trying to catch a ball.

McQuistan had been a quality OG in 2012, and a serviceable OT in 2011. In 2013, he's looked weak in the pre-season and he's looked weak in regular season. 3.25 million of scrubbing it. He's getting outplayed by Bowie, and Bowie looks like he doesn't even know what to do half the time. McQuistan is that bad.

I'm assuming much of your post is aimed at my remark about Turbin. Its been common for fans to be butt hurt about Turbin when someone talks about bad about him. He's a good player, no doubt, and I'll admit maybe my own expectation for him was too tall. I just thought he would be better.

The Seahawks aren't using him to his strengths, how many catches does he even have this year (2 catches on 4 targets), sure he's has pass blocking ability but it still isn't the difference in keeping Wilson upright, and the guy is just average as it comes when it comes to rushing the ball. And its not average to good at best but more like averagely predictable. But what makes me get on Turbin's case the most is his effort, this dude is running hard, he's running angry, he's getting more physical, and he has better understanding of the Cable's ZBS and he just hasn't looked like he has taken that next step from last year. And he's looked horrible has a short-yardage back, he looks like a freight train but doesn't run like a bruiser.

I'm not trying to say Turbin sucks because he's a well-rounded player, average but well-rounded. However, compared to what he was last year, he's been scrubbing it. Maybe its the O-line, which I think you insinuated has been the root of our problems with your vacuum comment. But if Turbin is just the product of his O-line than he's not the RB I thought he would be.

The Incredible Hulk, nah, more like the Stumbling Bulk.

 

[NFSeahawks]

Offensive line issues should have been addressed in this offseason in early rounds.

I remember how ridiculous I thought it was that the Seahawks didn't spend more draft picks on offensive lineman, and it's now even more ridiculous with all the injuries and the draft picks no longer on the team.

 

[Mtjhoyas]

Would you consider Moffitt and Carpenter early round picks? OL is not fool proof in the early rounds like many seem to believe. The recent history of late R1 OL has been terrible. I'd love to upgrade, but I'd never sacrifice talent just to fill a hole early in the draft.

Heck, the top 3 OL in last years draft have been pretty awful so far. It takes time. I think one of Bailey/Bowie will turn into a mainstay on the OL in a year or 2.

Offensive line issues should have been addressed in this offseason in early rounds.

I remember how ridiculous I thought it was that the Seahawks didn't spend more draft picks on offensive lineman, and it's now even more ridiculous with all the injuries and the draft picks no longer on the team.

 

[Erebus]

Switching everyone around every week won't work either.

They don't need to switch things around every week, but one good shakeup to find the right combo worked last year for the Ravens. And that was later in the season than we are now.

 

[DavidSeven]

Offensive line issues should have been addressed in this offseason in early rounds.

I remember how ridiculous I thought it was that the Seahawks didn't spend more draft picks on offensive lineman, and it's now even more ridiculous with all the injuries and the draft picks no longer on the team.

And who would you have selected and with what draft pick?

There were six OTs drafted before Seattle's first pick (and five were taken in the first 19 picks). After Menelik Watson was taken at pick #42 (he's been injured all season btw), no OT was taken for another 33 picks BY ANY TEAM. The next OT taken was Terron Armstead at #75 who is on the very bottom of the Saints' roster. The OT after that was Brennan Williams at #89 who is out for the entire year after having microfracture on his knee before the season started. That's every OT taken in the first three rounds. Our guards aren't the ones who have gotten injured.

JS said they had some interest in OTs, but the ones they expected to last through 2 rounds were all taken within the top 20 picks. This draft lacked great skill players and QBs, which caused the linemen to get gobbled up ahead of their draft value.

 

[Bigpumpkin]

Thanks DavidSeven for the timeline on the last Draft. I, too, wondered why John and Pete had not picked an Offensive Lineman for back up earlier in the Draft. The good ones were gone!

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Soulfish hawk says Yet, with all these problems on the O-Line, they were able to pound the ball down the Colts' throats. But of course, Bevell decided to get cute and chose to stop something that was clearly working. Hawks win that game if he sticks to the run in the 2nd half, no doubt.

I have to agree. I watched the game instead of working for a friend and did not like the fact they stopped the run game pretty much in the second half. They could have done a lot better in that respect. That would have taken a lot of pressure out of RW's hands. As someone said above, Turbin is not there yet....but give him time. Let him develop and learn the scheme. Remember that it took a while for Alexander to get his boots on. We have a back up to a situation that may be great in the future. I dont remember traveling to the future yet....but one never knows. And as someone on another thread says.....we are friggin 4 and 1. be happy my fellow hawks.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Overrated? Not Bowie. Carpenter definitely but not Bowie.

 

[McGruff]

Overrated? Not Bowie. Carpenter definitely but not Bowie.

Carpenter is probably the most hated hawk on this and other boards. How can he be overrated?

 

[bestfightstory]

INCORRECT! If you are listening to crap like 'China Girl' and that duet with Jagger, or even, IMO, 'Fame' then, yeah, I can see how you might find him overrated. You gotta go back to earlier stuff. Check out the Ziggy Stardust days, man. Bowie, all in all, really is NOT overrated. See the big picture.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Overrated? Not Bowie. Carpenter definitely but not Bowie.

Carpenter is probably the most hated hawk on this and other boards. How can he be overrated?

1st round draft pick. The seahawks obviously overrated him.

 

[themunn]

Overrated? Not Bowie. Carpenter definitely but not Bowie.

Carpenter is probably the most hated hawk on this and other boards. How can he be overrated?

1st round draft pick. The seahawks obviously overrated him.

overdrafted =/= overrated

unless you think Aaron Curry is overrated?

(key word IS, not WAS)